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Shocking League Table Of Bucks and Herts Secondaries!

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BucksorHerts · 22/11/2023 15:35

I stumbled upon this article about rankings and I'm perplexed at the 2024 league table.
https://britannia-study.com.my/state-schools/best-state-secondary-schools-in-the-uk

I was surprised to see St George's School Harpenden ranked at 37
Dr Challoner's High at 28
Dr Challoner's Grammar (not found in the 2024 league table. How can it now make the of 184 schools? Is the site unreliable then?)
Chesham Grammar at 35
DAO ranked at 53 (Why so low? It's so highly regarded)
Sir Henry Floyd st 54
Parmiters at 98 (Surely this is an error??)

Is there a more reliable site for league tables to compare rankings?
I'm interested in Bucks and Herts.

Best State Secondary Schools in the UK - Rankings & League Table (Updated 2024)

Looking for the best state secondary schools in the UK? Here you can find the 2024 league table for UK state schools, based on public examination results.

https://britannia-study.com.my/state-schools/best-state-secondary-schools-in-the-uk

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TizerorFizz · 09/12/2023 11:02

Plus doing Law, for example, at Durham is probably guaranteeing a decent career ahead of medicine at Buckingham/MK. Why are scientists the only ones who count? It’s very odd and no doubt panders to parents views. Many more high flying careers on offer you live in south Bucks!

thing47 · 09/12/2023 11:31

Soapon · 08/12/2023 23:31

Wait, they let girls into the boys school now?!
we had different lunch breaks to discourage mingling!

Yeah it changed a few years ago (4 maybe?). Sorry to hear you missed out @Soapon 😂

Part of the reason was that the boys school was considered much better at STEM subjects - maths in particular - so girls wanting to do those subjects might prefer to switch for 6th Form. Though reading a couple of current parents' opinions on this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

JollyStollen · 09/12/2023 13:10

TizerorFizz · 09/12/2023 11:02

Plus doing Law, for example, at Durham is probably guaranteeing a decent career ahead of medicine at Buckingham/MK. Why are scientists the only ones who count? It’s very odd and no doubt panders to parents views. Many more high flying careers on offer you live in south Bucks!

You are citing one specific one prestigious law degree (plenty of law degrees from many other institutions aren't) with the only private medical school in the UK (the other 43 are the standardised norm). Not sure what your point is.

TizerorFizz · 09/12/2023 13:40

Not everyone is a scientist or cares about medics . It’s a very narrow measure of a school. Who cares about medicine apart from those who want it. It’s a grammar school so a wide array of degrees should be lauded.

JollyStollen · 09/12/2023 14:12

You've repeatedly made the point that you don't rate medical degrees. So far, so subjective. Personal tastes aside, you cannot argue that any place to study medicine isn't a big achievement. Fact. Not the case for many subjects where places can be a big achievement on certain courses at certain universities but can be very different in terms of UCAS tariff elsewhere. Fact. No-one is saying a medicine degree is the holy grail but it is a clear and measurable achievement and for that reason tends to come up as a measure of a school's quality. Of course there are others like % going to Russell Group destinations but drilling down from that, given that high ranking universities like Bath and St Andrews aren't even RG and competition levels vary massively by course, that is a flawed high-level metric.

TizerorFizz · 09/12/2023 18:24

Not rate them? No I don’t particularly but I might if that was a strategy for dc. However in Bucks, in this area, you are only getting DCGS and Chesham as options. So what previous dc choose to do doesn’t mean much.

It’s a highly dubious measurement unless you are a scientist and want that career. Dc might want something totally different and prefer a school that can deliver that. Obsession with Oxbridge and medical degrees is narrow and not reflecting modern society. So why not CS degrees? Or economics degrees? Medicine isn’t the be all and end all and it’s relatively niche. I might prefer to know numbers going to USA unis, for example. I might even dare to want good teaching of music and art! Or one of the subjects no one cares about amongst competitive parents.

I see all dc going to grammars as individuals. They aren’t identical to an earlier cohort. So what others choose, and indeed don’t choose, has little bearing on the dc coming into the school as they are not clones. A grammar school will have lots of highly successful dc. There are umpteen ways to measure success and mine isn’t Medics. It’s irrelevant. It dismisses many other arts/ humanities dc who want a different path. I want to see success in a broad range of subjects.

JollyStollen · 09/12/2023 19:43

@TizerorFizz have my first mumsnet ODFOD. I'm out of patience with your silly ramblings.

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