£45 to £60 per hour for 11 plus tuition

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Slightly taken aback at the prices for 121 11 plus tuition. Just looking online it seems £45 upwards for face 2 face tuition, slightly lower for online. There are a fair few asking for around £60.
How much did you pay?

We pay £75 for one to one tuition for 11 plus- we're in North London.

Wow that is a lot. Are you using the tutor for a short period of time? Is that just the going rate where you live?

£60 ph here (SW London/Surrey borders). That's the going rate round here for 11+ tbh.

(That's for face-to-face 1:1 tuition).

Can I ask how people find their tutors? Parents at school don’t seem to be happy to share details of their tutors.

I charged 25 an hour 20 years ago and not in London so sounds about right. Try sites like First tutors to find a tutor.

We paid 50 per hour for a group online session....crazy expensive for group online. This time around we are going w face to face 65 per hour. Dd did well, but think she would have done well w anyone. DS needs face to face that is for sure. I think group online he would get distracted.

Word of mouth. I always shared when people asked about tutors...even in the same year as my dc. I managed to get the tutors recommended from parents who had older kids not in the same year.

We had one, he was paid for by school from an agency. He did two hours per week.
He was hopeless.
A few years ago my daughter had one who was from a local fb group. A young person still studying, they were great.
you don’t always get what you pay for.
Best to get recommendations.

People are so secretive, as if letting on about a tutor means their child might get beaten to a place somehow. Horrible system.

£30 per hour here in the North West for one to one, £20 per hour for a group session.

I charge £40 (not in London) so I would think £60 would be average.

I do find it strange that mostly the people objecting to paying £40 an hour for tuition have no problem paying £40 for nails or £25 for eyebrows. Last time I went to the physio (only 6 months ago) it was £50 for the hour.

My Mum paid £25 an hour for my 11+ tuition - 30 years ago!

I agree. We paid I think £45 per hour a decade ago, and the guy was brilliant - very well organised, provided lots of resources (not just working through a book), gave homework and marked it with good feedback. He never advertised, it was all through local recommendations from other parents. He also did GCSE and A level Maths private tuition which we thought we may use him for when the time came, but in the event, we didn't as he was doing well enough with the school teachers. But yes, strange how people value teachers so little and are happy to pay more for people with fewer qualifications/less experience for trivialities in life rather than something as important as their child's education.

If you want to find me, you'd only have to ask on local FB pages. Just look for the tutor who is always recommended and who has the most number of reviews. Fancy websites mean nothing. Also check they're actually qualified teachers. Just because someone has a grade A in something themselves, does not mean they know how to teach. There's an enormous amount of unqualified people out there thinking it's an easy way to make cash in hand. I'm tax registered, only take direct debit, fully insured and 5 star reviewed. I quite regularly take on new pupils who have been elsewhere that's 'cheaper' and have to fix a whole host of misconceptions. You don't always get what you pay for, but generally someone decent doesn't advertise and is simply recommended. If a tutor is available and begging for business, usually means they're not that great. I'm actually not the most expensive in my area as I try to stay accessible, but I'm absolutely not the cheapest.

Word of mouth here. DS3's tutor was recommended by friends.

@mindbogglingmaths I agree re tutor costs. And also (at least for those aiming for independent secondaries for their DC) it always strikes me as slightly odd that people object to paying £50-70 ph for a weekly tutor, when the reality is that, if their DC are successful, they'll be paying at least £6k (and possibly nearer 9k) per term in school fees.

Appreciate that it's a different scenario if you are aiming only for state grammars, but many families will try for both state and private.

Not 11+, but online tuition for GCSE. £50 per hour through an agency. Expensive but effective. It was a fair price for the quality of tuition (knowledge, experience, extra work set and marked etc) and achieved the outcome needed. Previously tried a face to face tutor at £35 ph, but could see it wasn't going to work out.

This. Couple of years ago now but we paid £18 a week for a small group session. 6 kids max.

£60 in NW London for 11+ tuition. Yes people pay that amount for nails, hair rtc but not 2x per week! Were only doing it for 3 months. I loathe paying it because I think kids should be accepted at their natural level but DS stands no chance as tutoring seems to be the thing to do to get into a top school.

I found an agency on Google who had a lot of trained teacher profiles. Of the 3 agencies recommended by people I know, none had tutors either with the right experience or just no availability as fully booked. Let me know if you need London tutor and I'll pm you the agency details. She had a lot of good profiles on her books.

That's very expensive and, from what I have heard, the tutoring is frequently ineffective.

It really annoys me that primary schools do not prepare children properly for eleven plus. They used to. I can remember it very well from my school days, my husband and my child had it at school, we needed no extra tuition to pass.

There are online resources which you could look into, including recent past papers. Make your home a gentle, interesting learning environment for some of the time.

We really need to campaign somehow for better primary school teaching, it seems to have gone wrong somewhere, whether it is in an eleven plus/grammar school area or not, so that all children are equipped with more than just the basics. That, of course, doesn't help those who are going through it now and I sympathise.

I don't believe state primaries are actually allowed to prep for 11+.

What about Atom Learning?

It could be incorporated into general education without mention of 11+ surely. Even pupils who are not particularly academic would gain something from it, and remember it years later. Tools for life.

I don't have much faith in primary education in this country any more, even the teachers don't seem to know much.

It would require a change to the National Curriculum because it tests skills and knowledge that aren't covered in year 5, and that would be pretty hard to justify when the vast majority of the country don't have grammars.

I'm neither pro nor anti grammars but they are a fairly niche concern.

I 'get' that.

I'm very glad I am past having a young child, I think education presents so many problems nowadays. However, there are some children who sail through regardless.

I’m in East Kent and I charge £30 face to face.
This thread is an eye opener!

Where are you based? We're paying £33ph in North West for 121.