£45 to £60 per hour for 11 plus tuition

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Slightly taken aback at the prices for 121 11 plus tuition. Just looking online it seems £45 upwards for face 2 face tuition, slightly lower for online. There are a fair few asking for around £60.
How much did you pay?

THIS. Good ones in Manchester £50 an hour and all the grammar kids I know had one for months

I think it is outrageous that parents have to pay extortionate amounts for extra tutoring for the eleven plus. - which often doesn't work. The school they attend should be preparing them. There are good grammar schools near me and the children I know who went or go to them had no extra tuition for the entry exam, their junior schools were up to speed on that.

Jesus, just log on to BOFA or similar. If your kid has the necessary aptitude to pass the test, that will be enough to familiarise them with the question types. You are wasting your money paying these silly prices. It's mean to be about testing for natural aptitude, not who has the biggest bank balance to buy their kid enough to tuition to make it look like they are brighter than they are.

Nothing. It’s a test for 10/11year olds. I tutored DC myself; I don’t have a tutoring or teaching background. I tutored him for the GL and CSSE exams, and used online resources, youtube tutorials, workbooks from Amazon, past papers and the KS2 maths and English curriculum as a guide. He passed both exams with flying colours. You can do it yourself. These tutors are fleecing you.

In the midlands it can cost 800/mth

Jesus Christ. You serious?

Bonkers, if you need to pay for tutoring to pass the 11+ and you feel that without it your DC's won't pass you're putting them in a situation that many won't be able to cope with.
The 11+ exam isn't really difficult for an intelligent child to pass without tuition and if they cannot get through that without extra help what about GCSE's and A Levels are you going to pay for a pass in those as well ?
Good luck when, or if, they get to a coveted RG Uni doing an ology.

I'm in Derbyshire and I pay £40 per hour for my sons private tutor.

I'm inclined to agree with you, Elfer13. The primary/junior schools need to up their game; if they did, with some positive input from parents, children would be prepared for the 11+ or equivalent if they choose to take it. Mine managed fine without any extra tuition as did most of their friends.

There was a TV programme about this very subject a few years ago and the lengths parents went to in order to pay for extra tuition for 11+ was eye-watering, never mind the pressure on the children, most of whom failed anyway. Their primary schools were hopeless.

Was looking for a maths tutor for Y8 dd (hence name) and in Kent where I am it was £60ph for her which I can't afford. Kids at her primary were coached from Y1 every weekend for the 11+ and most keep tutors all the way through grammar.

It's a money heavy system.

I pay £25 for small group tuition with a very successful sensible tutor who already got ds1 into grammar. He's written a series of books and tutors from them.

I'd expect to pay more for 121. I'm in Manchester.

Music lessons cost £34 to £36 an hour

Primary schools are not hopeless. If you are referring to not helping kids with 11 plus?? We already have a packed curriculum that many kids are not able to access without copious amounts of support. The bright kids are being taught well but the 11 plus is way beyond the realms of the ks2 curriculum despite what is said about 'ks2' curriculum. It is very different and very specific.

Every single kid is tutored here, sometimes for years. It makes a mockery of the whole system. If you don't tutor at all you're starting off way behind even with a really bright kid - it's the technique of answering the questions they need to learn which isn't something they can easily pick up in school.

For those of this with less funds we need to find a middle ground, so do it yourself with books from Amazon, with maybe some cheaper group tutoring rather than 121 which is ridiculously expensive. And hope your kid is bright enough to leapfrog the heavily tutored, but less bright kids.

I loathe it. It's still all about money.

In what way has primary school teaching gone wrong? They don't teach to the 11+, which is not related to the national curriculum at all. Why would primary schools teach how many floz in a cup of tea?

your child must be gifted to pass with no tutoring. The tests in bucks and Surrey and Greater London are not achievable (as in kids pass ) unless you are gifted or are tutored. I have been teaching for years and only a few have been successful and all were tutored.

You dont need to employ a tutor for the 11+. You just need to familiarise your child with the format of the exam, and can do that easily yourself.

Ex tutor here, I charged £60 per hour for 11+, and have friends who charge more.

To be fair that's not strictly true. If they take a CATs test and score poorly there's not much point in entering for the test at all. By that point you don't have much chance of boosting them enough. People in dd's primary began training their kids in Y1 and several only got in on appeal.

well, yes, I mean if your child is capable of the 11+, then no tuition is needed.

That isn't what I am saying either.
You need several years to properly familiarise yourself and your kids with the range of tests and papers - the earlier the easier kids find it. Kids who have inherited intelligence obviously have an advantage but the more money and time parents throw at their kid the better advantage they have, which is why wealthy parents are far more likely to get their kids in than parents who can't afford tutors or the time and energy to spend on training. Pretending it's just sitting around with textbooks a couple of times before sitting it isn't helpful.

Just signed DD up in Bucks. £38 for 90 minutes (group lesson). It’s for familiarisation and the maths syllabus, as that covers y6 stuff which she won’t have done. We could probably do the familiarisation ourselves (and have started), but I don’t rate my chances of actually teaching her maths very well, it is not my skill set. The tutor recommendation is it is only worth signing up for tuition if they are GDS in maths and English. Nothing about taking CAT tests.

rubbish. My kids got into grammar school without looking at a single test paper until the August before the September test, and then just a few evenings a week for the summer. - no need for months or years of tuition. There are plenty of pupil premium children and children on free school meals at grammar schools too.

At my daughter's state primary they took CATs tests before 11+ then called each parent to discuss the scores. It was a helpful way to limit some very disappointed children as well as show areas they may need to improve upon.
I got a massive shock when dd got 137 in non-verbal reasoning as we were not intending to take the 11+ at all. She's better at maths than me already which is no surprise. It's a handy thing to do if you have concerns and you don't need to practice for it as it's meant to be able to show natural ability, unlike the KT/11+.

Well that's great for you but not the norm. Grammar school’s intake is made up of around 8.1% Pupil Premium pupils, compared to a national average of 27.1% disadvantaged pupils in secondary schools.