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Chances of your y6 getting first choice next week.

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louise5754 · 25/02/2023 19:14

Just that really.

Have you applied in your catchment or further?

Anyone thinking they will have to appeal or do you know you will definitely get a space due to catchment / sibling?

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DistrictCommissioner · 26/02/2023 18:12

louise5754 · 26/02/2023 17:09

That's interesting. I still put a second and third.

I just didn’t see the point. Last year’s data shows that our 1st choice admitted children out of catchment at feeder schools, their last but one category. Our 2nd choice & 3rd choices were all under subscribed. If some bizarre upturning of the universe happened & the 1st choice filled up in category 1 (special circs) & they didn’t get to offers in category 2 (sibs in catchment) which my DC is in, there would be spaces in the other schools.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 26/02/2023 18:20

If we get option 2 on our lists can we request to be waitlisted for option 1?

There'll be some movement I assume after NOD whereby some kids accept grammar/private schools so places may come up? Is that then managed by parents and schools communicating?

Smithstreet · 26/02/2023 18:23

Hopefully pretty certain. We live in catchment and have a sibling. But my eldest didnt get in on offers day due to a mistake, got in very soon after. Siblings in catchment are just under EHCP, LAC etc so we should be absolutely fine but till I see it I will be a bit nervous.

DistrictCommissioner · 26/02/2023 18:23

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 26/02/2023 18:20

If we get option 2 on our lists can we request to be waitlisted for option 1?

There'll be some movement I assume after NOD whereby some kids accept grammar/private schools so places may come up? Is that then managed by parents and schools communicating?

Yes

DuckBushCityLimit · 26/02/2023 18:38

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 26/02/2023 18:20

If we get option 2 on our lists can we request to be waitlisted for option 1?

There'll be some movement I assume after NOD whereby some kids accept grammar/private schools so places may come up? Is that then managed by parents and schools communicating?

Many areas will automatically put you on the waiting list for your higher preferences, some you will need to request this. You should get information about the process when you get your offer. The local authority manages the waiting lists up until a certain point (end of the calendar year, I think?).

UsernameOfMine · 26/02/2023 18:51

There should be information about accepting the place and about waiting lists when you get the place.

I think I had to fill in a paper form when D's didn't get first choice.
We were called by the school to offer us a place. We accepted verbally
Then I had a phonecall from LA to check I definitely wanted to turn down the original offer.

TwoForTheDough · 26/02/2023 19:12

Some schools will manage their own waiting lists. We were on a waiting list for two schools last year, got 3rd choice. School 1 the local authority managed the waiting list. School 2 managed their own. We were put on both automatically but do check.

We got our 1st choice school in the end, and actually got notified by the school before the local authority. I think partly because we were in a neighbouring borough and the school found out faster than our own borough did.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 26/02/2023 19:20

TwoForTheDough · 26/02/2023 19:12

Some schools will manage their own waiting lists. We were on a waiting list for two schools last year, got 3rd choice. School 1 the local authority managed the waiting list. School 2 managed their own. We were put on both automatically but do check.

We got our 1st choice school in the end, and actually got notified by the school before the local authority. I think partly because we were in a neighbouring borough and the school found out faster than our own borough did.

How long did you wait before hearing you'd gone from school 3 to school 1?

TwoForTheDough · 26/02/2023 19:27

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz months! We got our place in the middle of August. Missed all the transfer stuff but took the place anyway (returned a lot of uniform!) as we really did want the school.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 26/02/2023 19:32

Oh wow!! And was dc ok about the change so late on? I'd totally take school 1 mid August over school 2, but school 2 is dc preference (based solely on the fact that her friends will be going there).

TwoForTheDough · 26/02/2023 19:41

Yes, my DD was delighted when the offer came in. She knew a couple of people going to the school and not so many going to the 3rd choice so it worked out quite well.

TwoForTheDough · 26/02/2023 19:50

I also didn't bother appealing for a place at either preferred school as we didn't mind the one we put in third, it had lots going for it. And there wasn't an appeal worthy reason for the others, we just liked them more.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 26/02/2023 20:11

Oh I won't appeal, unless I hear of a non Catholic, no sibling link girl getting in who lives further away than us Grin

I'll only appeal if I get none of my 3 preferences which would be a rare anomaly.

PatChaunceysFruitCake · 26/02/2023 20:22

I might appeal. I think we've got some grounds in so far as choice 1 offers a subject choice 2 doesn't and it's a subject based on an extra curricular activity DD does three times a week. I know that would 'count' as an appeal point but I don't know how strong it would be.

I need to get the news on Wednesday and see how I, and more importantly, DD feel about it all.

LockInAtTheFeathers · 27/02/2023 05:31

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 26/02/2023 18:20

If we get option 2 on our lists can we request to be waitlisted for option 1?

There'll be some movement I assume after NOD whereby some kids accept grammar/private schools so places may come up? Is that then managed by parents and schools communicating?

Yes- some LAs will automatically add you to a waiting list for any higher preferences than the school you are offered and for some you have to request it, so it is worth checking you are on the waiting lists you want to be.

Grammar schools are state schools and admission to them is included in this process, but yes, people accepting private offers, moving away, etc, will get the lists moving.

Live4weekend · 27/02/2023 09:18

90% maybe.

Catchment school but not at feeder. Higher than out of catchment siblings though.

Suspect this year not all out of catchment siblings will get a place. (Massive birth year) but hope the previous category (the one DD) offers all places.

If we don't get in this offer should get in on waiting list.

Briallen · 27/02/2023 09:25

100% because it’s less than a mile away and the only welsh medium high school in the county so there’s nowhere else he could go. They can’t offer an English school if you specify welsh medium preference.

listsandbudgets · 27/02/2023 09:30

Unlikely but its a competitive grammar and his 11 plus score is at the lowest end of what they'd normally take. Just depends what everyone else scored but not holding out much hope.

However we do anticipate he will get second choice and he's also got scholarship to nearby private but I'm not 100% that 9ts the right place for him

Didiplanthis · 27/02/2023 10:00

Should be ok. Sibling link and in catchment but always the worry I buggered up the form !! I put a good 2nd down even though there is no reason on paper we shouldn't get first..

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 27/02/2023 10:09

Has anyone not put their child's preference as first choice? Speaking to parents around me here they all seem to prioritise child's preference, which I get it's good to involve them but when their preference is based solely on where their friends are going, seems daft.

Live4weekend · 27/02/2023 10:15

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 27/02/2023 10:09

Has anyone not put their child's preference as first choice? Speaking to parents around me here they all seem to prioritise child's preference, which I get it's good to involve them but when their preference is based solely on where their friends are going, seems daft.

My child preferred the one we put down as 1st choice, but I'll be honest she wasn't getting much choice.

She did pick the 2nd choice (she has no chance of a place).

3rd choice - she really doesn't want but it's the only other option. Her classmates will mainly go to 2nd choice / 3rd choice. The ones she's wants away from probably 3rd choice.

But she based her choices on really silly things!

AliceMcK · 27/02/2023 13:15

Agree @BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz i know someone who let their child do this to be with their best friend, by the end of year 7 they weren’t friends anymore.

I’m looking forward to my DD making new friendships and putting some distance between her and her primary school friends.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 27/02/2023 13:26

There's a girl in my dds class who appears to rule the roost at home (more fool her folks for pandering to her!) who has said she will steadfastly refuse anything other than the one single school she has decided is right for her (based only on the fact that a cousin went there years before).

She's already on the path to being a school refuser now, so lord knows what will happen if she isn't allocated this school.

Coincidentally, this is part of the reason we put this school as choice 2 because I'd like to separate dd and her (not tight friends but may become).

Jules912 · 27/02/2023 13:34

I let DS choose but it helped that we only disagreed on 6th choice and don't think they'll get that far down the list anyway. He did have a slight wobble when he realised none of his class have the same first choice ( not really surprising as only 3 boys passed the exam) but his best friend moved away last year anyway so doesn't mind too much.

louise5754 · 27/02/2023 13:59

I didn't even ask dd. It's the closest to us, most of her primary go there. Her sister is there.

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