Secondary teachers, do you ever have shite day with horrid kids and then blame yourself?

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. Totally fed up with difficult pupils....

Been teaching 12 years, but they seem to get worse and worse,now blaming myself

yes. It is a horrible feeling.

What year 'got' you?

Is it only me????

Y10

Horrid year group. ALL DAY

3 little madams wouldn't come to front to watch demo when told to. Just continued to eyeball me...........should have split them up, but too tired to think straight as dd 19 months old has never slept through night.

Vile obnoxious boy in double lesson, one insisting on internet on computers..wouldn't come off, despite everything...passed it on to SMT, but totally pissed off with them all

oh FB, sorry to hear this ...I haven't taught secondary for years, but remember the feeling well. One particular little charmer was the reason for a spending spree on new clothes, I was so pissed off angry that I had to cheer myself up. And you are coping with a non-sleeper too.

Could be around for a pint and a moan if you want an ear to bend!

Sympathy, and hugs coming your way.

Can you place the more trying ones with a sixth form class? Somewhere where ther is no 'crowd' to play to?

We do this quite a bit.

Kid who wouldn't stop meeding round on computer, next time, one warning, and then a text book lesson while the rest of the class use the computers?

It all gets so old doesn't it?

The bit that gets me is NT 14 year olds who will not lesten for the 3 minutes you will take to explain the practical, they then spend the rest of the time whinging that 'I don't know what to do!'

Sympathy, sympathy!

I share your at Yr 10s. They are my worst class and I have them lessons 1 & 2 on Mondays. At least I get it over and done with.

Last year 2 of my yr 10s sat under a desk for 30 minutes, before I gave in and got someone to help me. I do feel like I have failed when I have to report them. It makes me feel really down so I sympathise.

Am V lucky this year because my only year 10 class, while being a near bottom set, are very nice kids (on the whole(. Mind you they have their moment. Best thing is that I hav then just before break and just before lunch, so I can keep them n if they go off the deep end

I also have support with them

year 9 are my achilles heel. They drive me potty, i find myself all stressed out before the lesson even begins! I stupidly volunteered them as my threshold class (being observed with them a week tomorrow >)

don't have any other lower school, except a middle set year 7, who are fine, but trying to push the boundaries a little. Had to move a girl today, who is refusing to work, which was a lttle

I'm a TA & earlier in the week I had a day where I just seemed to attract 'issues' ! Every class I went into seemed to kicko ff in some way....I did wonder if it was me !

(maybe it was the full moon....)

Oh & the year 7s are so cheeky & rude!

I have done that with the computer geek MB. He still contuiues to go on computer games, which is why I passed it onto HoY. No 6th form on at the same time, as all Y10's timetabled together in our dept at same time, so there is no escape. 4 classes on, on same floor, and all awful. Mine are one of the better ones........

Y10's under the table[ sometimes wish they would stay there...have had this with y7 but not y10 (yet, God Forbid)

They are just so wearing, some days they are fine, and sometimes completely off their heads,,it's the unpredicatability that is so hard.

Rarely have support, and always have to request it..

Y9, noisy and obnoxious....moan ....moan... Only like Y11 ATM

I have 3, count them 3, wonderful, sixth form classes! Bright, hardworking, motivated and they laugh at my jokes.

What more can you ask for?

Lots of sympathy from here too.

Our yr10s are really hard work this year. The bottom set is OK, but need a lot of support; behaviour in the middle sets is generally atrocious; top sets are rude and arrogant (with no real justification for being so).

I've actually had a super day (for once), but it's a tough time of year. I don't know about you but we have a ski trip out (7 members of staff), plus lots of staff illness, which means a lot of cover/supply staff in; and it has a negative impact on the students (understandably) if they have more than one cover lesson in a day.

My Year 10s were awful today too or at least a handful of the girls were; maybe it's something in the blood?!

Having said that, I'd spent lunchtime breaking up two fights in the dinner hall and ate my lunch standing up whilst eyeballing the ones I'd dragged out, so I probably wasn't up to my usual diffusion methods and when Year 10 were vile, I couldn't be bothered to humour them and move on, like I normally would. Instead I told them I wouldn't stand for it and they didn't like it. Eventually all bar one of them came round and did some work but it was totally draining getting them to that stage.

Friday tomorrow!! I have the worst pupil again tomorrow for a different subject. I'm tempted to stick her in a corner to mull it over, whilst the others do practical work. Or is that just vindictive?!

And IS it a full moon? it certainly felt like one.

Reidmylips...not nice... threshold observation

However if it is a member of SMT, they may behave. I had a recent observation with a deputy head with a (very nice) Y8, and was told they were too quiet.......Perhaps he should have been in the Y10 lesson from hell.

Could we have a sort of cyber staffroom on here, like the childminders do?

OIn general I'm finding the girls more tiresome than the boys.

And the galling thing is that you are trying your damndest to help them to get some qualifications, and they can't be arsed to do anything for themselves.

Oh a cyber staffroom sounds lovely - I'll get the biscuits out.

Pink wafer anyone?
Fig roll?

Dart board set up in the corner for target practice?

Glad to know I'm not the only one. Am shattered having just been Ofsteded this week. Thank God its over!

God, some of them are even too lazy to fetch paper, sitting their bleating "where is it?....can't see it...etc"

And as for losing their work, or even better accusing me of losing their work.

I never touch their work apart from marking it, they put it in the box, they take it out. If it is lost it's their fault, and I always mysteriously find it lying around the room somewhere, despite the fact they put it in the box apparently (imagine all this in whiney voice with lots of hair tossing (girls)and staring at the floor (boys)

What really annoys me, is I teach some fantastic kids in these classes, but never seem to get to spend any time with them

Is it just me or has this been a very long week? I have Year 10 tomorrow - double lesson at the end of the day.

My worse class are my yr8s who are a nightmare & I alsways have them period 6 by which time they have accumalated so much baggage they just cannot focus!

Why are they so awful?

Last week, Start of the lesson, ets go over your HW'.

'You didn't give me the sheet miss'

'Yes I did'
'you didn't'
'i did, look, I even stuck it in your book for you!'

'What does X mean miss?'
'Look it up in the book'
'what page is it on?'

I would like a "rate your pupil" website in that cyber staffroom