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GCSE 2022 Results - the moment of reckoning!

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Rollergirl11 · 24/08/2022 19:48

Hello everyone, here is a shiny new thread ready for DC’s results day tomorrow and a much needed hand hold for us nervous parents. 🥴🤪

Tomorrow is the culmination of an incredibly turbulent 2 year journey that our young people have had to navigate. Fraught with ups and downs. They have done us all proud!!

Here is a link to the previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/secondary/4566030-current-year-11-2-more-weeks-of-exams?page=37&reply=119483572

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mondaytosunday · 29/08/2022 13:16

Pass her course I mean, it is that she has done well in.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 29/08/2022 14:13

I think schools should be banned from predicting 9s. They really seem to cause unnecessary stress and lead kids with 8s to be disappointed. If they were never predicted but were just a bonus everyone would be happier.

My DD's school (comp in the Midlands) deliberately doesn't predict 9s, even if students get 9s in their PPEs. I suspect that it's more likely for private schools or grammars to do it so that parents put the pressure on their kids to get the 9s!

mondaytosunday · 29/08/2022 15:09

Our (private) school doesn't predict 9s. I wish schools admitting for 6 form entry would understand this when looking at applicants (my dd achieved some 9s but her predictions were 8s due to school policy).

Ithinkthatisenoughnowthanks · 29/08/2022 16:48

I rarely predict 9s (private school). I think even with the strongest of students it is easy to miss with a small lapse in concerntration or that one question you just can't remember the answer to.

Fiddlersgreen · 29/08/2022 16:49

One of our termly reports had DS as predicted 9s in all 3 sciences. DS has never been that good at science and was regularly getting 6/7!
I was furious at the pressure but he chose to ignore it as he knew he’d never get that, he ended up with a 6 in each science which we were all thrilled with

NameInUseAlreadyAgain · 29/08/2022 18:37

Our DS has got within one grade in every subject with what he was predicted when he started senior school. So he’s stayed the same and not progressed it seems. But if we take out Eng Lit he’s passed the rest even if a couple were 4s

i always said our school should concentrate on those getting grades 3-5 over the years to help them get them to 4-6 but they were Only interested in pushing those predicted grade 7 to get them to 8/9…..

their loss - they pride themselves on being able to say 100% got grade 5 or more in English and maths - not this year thanks to my DS and 5 others! (96% got 5 or above …..!)

LouisCatorze · 29/08/2022 18:44

Yes, KS2 SATs are used to predict grades for GCSEs aren't they? DD's results were within a grade of all of hers, although not spot on. She was predicted the highest grade in RE for which she got an 8.

Yes, I guess not everyone can pass maths and English first time but very frustrating, particularly if young people are condemned to be doing resits until they do pass, should they need it for uni or their chosen career pathway.

MyOtherProfile · 29/08/2022 20:29

KS2 SATs are used but it's a bit odd I think. DD did really well on English SATs but average in Maths. So for all language related subjects she is predicted 8 or 9 but for all maths / science she is predicted 5. So it's a bit of a broad brush.

NameInUseAlreadyAgain · 29/08/2022 20:31

Our DS didn’t do KS2 SATS as went from private primary to secondary grammar so no idea where they got the grades from but almost spot on with a couple outliers.

x2boys · 29/08/2022 21:56

NameInUseAlreadyAgain · 28/08/2022 21:15

Off topic slightly but feel totally sick that some 16 year old that opened his results on Thursday took a pill at festival this weekend and has died. So, so sad. Poor family :-(

This put s things into perspective I have just read about this and he's quite local to me ,I'm nearly 50 now but a lad in my form class at school was one of the first people to die of an ecstasy related death in the.uk when he was 17 heartbreaking.

boysmuminherts · 29/08/2022 22:28

NameInUseAlreadyAgain · 29/08/2022 18:37

Our DS has got within one grade in every subject with what he was predicted when he started senior school. So he’s stayed the same and not progressed it seems. But if we take out Eng Lit he’s passed the rest even if a couple were 4s

i always said our school should concentrate on those getting grades 3-5 over the years to help them get them to 4-6 but they were Only interested in pushing those predicted grade 7 to get them to 8/9…..

their loss - they pride themselves on being able to say 100% got grade 5 or more in English and maths - not this year thanks to my DS and 5 others! (96% got 5 or above …..!)

Not progressed isn't true though, he has achieved roughly what he was predicted when he entered. Well done to your DS!

legosunqueen · 29/08/2022 22:28

@NameInUseAlreadyAgain it's so tragic, DS also 16 was there so it really resonates, especially as I didn't hear from him for 24 hours over Saturday as his phone & portable charger had run out of charge...

daffodilandtulip · 29/08/2022 23:01

@TeenDivided totally agree. DD gained mostly 9s in both sets of mocks and has been predicted mostly 9s since Y7. She got 7s and 8s and was ridiculously disappointed, angry and upset with herself. What kind of system creates a clever child who is disappointed with achieving nothing under an A in 11 subjects?!

LouisCatorze · 30/08/2022 08:38

Probably on many fronts it's better to err on the side of caution with predicted grades?

So DD has done about 75% of one of the three subject pieces of holiday homework set by the sixth form she'll be going to. But that's by far the easiest one in terms of format of the work, etc. The other two demand considerably more invested time by my reckoning. Hmm. At this rate, she'll be up 'til midnight on Sunday evening completing it all.

Anyone else with girls finding 'shopping for sixth form quasi business dress attire' a challenge? I'm almost beginning to wish that they just wore a uniform. She's fixating on jumpers when she's only got one skirt and one jacket so far, and is angsting about not having any short-sleeved blouses for wearing at the start of term. Everything seems to be an issue. We've ordered some shoes online from Urban Outfitters but I'm not confident they'll fit her as she has very narrow feet.

Newgirls · 30/08/2022 08:56

The whole business atire uniform is odd these days - not many places wear straight skirts and jackets. I live in a place full of London city workers and even they don’t. What if you want to go into creative jobs? At some point we’ve got to trust teens to dress themselves - uni isn’t far away.

LouisCatorze · 30/08/2022 09:05

@Newgirls totally agree. We got her a very flattering white cotton shirt with a 'V' neck but also a collar. A variation on a revere I guess. It was the only thing we found on a four-hour shopping trip that she liked! It looks great on her. But DC1 got their oar in and said she'd be sent home as it's not 'appropriate.' It shows a bit more 'upper chest' area than they've been used to with school shirts buttoned up to the top (a look I hate) but nothing over-revealing (it might be different if big-busted and wearing a push-up bra, I guess!). I despair.

ChristmasTreeRipoff · 30/08/2022 09:08

Does anyone think that teachers should be allowed to use a range prediction, such 4-5 and at the top end 7-8 or 8-9 or even 7-9.

Might be more realistic as even a top student can have an off day or mis-interpret/mis-read a question leading to feeling they've failed in some way.

Womblesaremyfavouritefood · 30/08/2022 09:09

We've got trousers from Zara for DC, and most of the rest from good old Marks and Sparks. And of course our charity shop jacket find. Still need plain T shirts to wear under the jumpers but they are hinting at a trip to Primark. We are definitely NOT into labels and brands, so it's made things a bit easier.

QuattroFromagio · 30/08/2022 09:30

A range prediction might help, but frankly as a very academic student, I'd have been disappointed if I didn't get the top grades that I wanted whether they'd been predicted or not. You can ban predicting grade 9s but it would just mean that there were unspoken predictions instead - everyone has done past papers and seen the grade boundaries, everyone knows what they're capable of and what they'd be happy with, so whether the school officially predicts it or not wouldn't, I think, have much bearing on whether the student is happy. It would also make me distrust the school if they kept predicting an 8, say, in something like maths or sciences where I could see that the boundaries and correct answers would make 9 realistic. Maybe different in some of the humanities I suppose where the pupil wouldn't always know themselves what was needed for the extra marks. It would have put the pressure on me in advance, though, and I'd have been trying harder and harder and getting more and more stressed to figure out why I wasn't getting grade 9s in the mocks or if I was, why the school didn't think I could do it in the real thing.

Are schools allowed to offer functional skills these days? Does it have to be in additional to GCSEs? I tutored a pupil years ago where they did all do functional skills in Year 10 or early Year 11 I think, or possibly alongside GCSEs in Year 11. it was certainly in maths, and possibly English as well. I think I read later that it wasn't allowed any more, though it sounds like that could have changed now. There was some rule that they had to be offered the chance to do GCSE first before they could try FS. It is a shame for some pupils, as I know some who had a chance of passing FS, but were unlikely to get GCSE, and it would have saved their disappointment and time having to wait to do it as resits. And for those who couldn't pass GCSE maths or English, it really restricted their sixth form opportunities, even when they might be strong in other GCSEs - some of them were unable to do any A-levels as a result, and had to go elsewhere to do BTecs etc. So allowing functional skiills alongside GCSE would really have helped them. I guess it might be too much to practise two different styles of paper, though, and if they have to have the chance to try GCSE, you still have to teach most of the foundation content to them. At the colleges around here, at least, those with a '3' in GCSE still have to do resits of it, rather than move to FS - that seems to be only for those with 2 or below. I wish there was a lot more flexibility in the system for those trying so hard to pass maths or English.

aramox1 · 30/08/2022 10:05

Is it not deeply unfair that a proportion of students have to fail maths /english when the pass grade is deemed so necessary as a qualification? I'm probably misunderstanding.

MrsHamlet · 30/08/2022 10:11

aramox1 · 30/08/2022 10:05

Is it not deeply unfair that a proportion of students have to fail maths /english when the pass grade is deemed so necessary as a qualification? I'm probably misunderstanding.

Yes. My class (very mixed ability) all passed this year. But every year, some students in all subjects have to fail. It's not right at all.

Naem · 30/08/2022 10:55

Our school refuses to predict 9s - what it does is predict 8+ for those expected to get one of the top grades. It uses the plus sometimes in other cases also - eg if it thinks you are mostly a 7 but pusing an 8 it might be 7+ - but it is no higher than 8+ so the sort of DC who might get a string of 9s will have 8+ for everything

Naem · 30/08/2022 10:55

*pushing an 8

Alsoplayspiccolo · 30/08/2022 12:27

MrsHamlet, and any other English teachers/examiners, would these results warrant requesting a copy of scripts?

modern prose 28/30
poetry 28/30
Macbeth + unseen poetry 48/70

He was previously getting string 8s and 9s for Macbeth, and he got a 9 in English language, though I know that doesn’t necessarily have much relevance to lit grades.

MrsHamlet · 30/08/2022 12:30

The mark schemes for Lang and Lit are totally different so I'd ignore that.
You need to see the papers rather than just the marks but I doubt the first two are worth looking at. Even if a second examiner thought it was 30, 28 is not unreasonable