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Teacher shortage crisis to get even worse

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noblegiraffe · 08/02/2022 20:29

The current data for teacher training applications for September 2022 has just come out and it is not only down 24% on last year, when more people decided to train as teachers in an uncertain economy, it is also 8% down on the same time in 2019 well before covid. The government have missed recruitment targets for years so there's already a critical shortage, particularly in subjects like maths, physics and computer science, and especially in the disadvantaged areas of the country that the government is supposed to be 'levelling up'.

The government had banked on lots of people wanting to train as teachers in a recession and cut the training bursaries massively. This has clearly had an impact and we are now facing an emergency unless something happens that turns this around.

Teacher shortage crisis to get even worse
Teacher shortage crisis to get even worse
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noblegiraffe · 15/02/2022 15:09

No, when teachers are surveyed about leaving the profession, most commonly cited are workload and behaviour.

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mumofpickles · 15/02/2022 15:21

It is a complete nightmare. Last year was the first year with multiple trainees leaving their PGCE training course, this year, one term in it was no better. I agree with MrsHamlet the ECT framework is a disaster for teacher retention. I do however think the SKE really does have a valuable place for people with related degrees to move into subject teaching and the funding fiasco last year did cause many to drop out before they could begin thei
r ITT. 16 years in the classroom and 6 in ITT and I am looking at what options I have for the remaining 20 years of my working life. The constant COVID changes to GCSE and A level marking is also relentless and is causing so much stress to the HODs I work with. Another experienced teacher here who loves actually teaching but no longer recognises the job I trained to do.

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AledsiPad · 15/02/2022 16:39

Have you heard of professional accountability Arbitrage ? Might want to look it up. Your diatribes have been disgusting.

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twinkletoesimnot · 15/02/2022 18:15

[quote Sherrystrull]@OnceuponaRainbow18

I agree. I was lucky a few weeks ago to have an EP visit for a child in my class. I explained to her she could be here for at least ten of the class. [/quote]
Completely agree with this and also the above post.
I had to literally beg!
Then I could have cried when the (very long) report suggested a visual timetable and a star chart........
As in their words we have literally tried everything.
One of the conditions they suspect is not recognised on our Local authority 🙄

Although I don't need the label - I (and the other children) just need some help!

Anoooshka · 15/02/2022 18:16

I remember well the "witty banter" from male teachers to female students at my secondary school in the 80s. So glad there's no place for that sort of abuse anymore.

OutlookStalking · 15/02/2022 18:17

If I could retrain to dyslexia assesments or ed psych I absolutely would! Crying out for them and better than teaching.... not a uni near me unfortunately.

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MrsHamlet · 15/02/2022 18:59

@Arbitrage

In the main, only the children of the rich get the 25% extra time for dyslexia - but I guess that it's only fair that dyslexics who have rich parents get the extra time, whilst the dyslexics from poor families have to do the same exams in the normal amount of time.

It's all about 'fairness', you see

Nonsense. A significant number of my current year 11 are entitled to extra time. They're not rich by any stretch of the imagination. They're not all dyslexic either for that matter.
chloworm · 15/02/2022 19:13

I've left teaching too. It was great to start with but then I had a lovely, supportive HT. The last school I taught in was a total nightmare. Staff turnover through the roof, largely due to a bullying SENCO (who has now been promoted to HT, probably because no-one else will do it). The last straw was when she came into the staffroom, took my lunch out of my hand and accused me of stealing a toy she couldn't find in my classroom!!! Three staff left within a month of September due to her (small primary) but nothing was ever done about her. If you get a bad SMT you're done for.

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 15/02/2022 19:42

I saw the demographics projections that under 16 population is going to shrink by over 10% by 2030.

That makes me think the government won't do much on teacher training recruitment as it's a short term issue.

But it IS an issue (not a teacher but can read the graphs) so they need short term intervention, ideally on retention.

Instead they are forecasting to close schools. Sigh.

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noblegiraffe · 15/02/2022 20:09

Stop hijacking my thread with your irrelevant and sometimes offensive ramblings.

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noblegiraffe · 15/02/2022 20:12

I saw the demographics projections that under 16 population is going to shrink by over 10% by 2030.

There was a big bulge in primary that is now headed into secondary. Primary recruitment has weirdly never been as much of an issue as secondary recruitment, given that the workload in primary tends to be higher. Secondary schools are going to be utterly screwed over the next few years.

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Scout98765 · 15/02/2022 20:14

I’ve taught for nearly 20 years in both private and state. Morale was worst at the second private school I taught at. Unbelievable parental pressure. Governors put huge pressure on the head who in turn put huge pressure on staff.
Morale not great in current state school either. Not helped by covid. Teachers got such a bashing during covid when all the teachers I know went above and beyond. Let’s be honest, some of the threads on Mumsnet were downright vicious to teachers.

Scout98765 · 15/02/2022 20:15

Also, regarding the extra time thing, at my first allegedly selective private school about 30-40% were on extra time.
Why? Their parents could afford a private Ed psych evaluation that funnily enough always seemed to diagnose dyslexia. Bizarre. But maybe I’m just being a cynic!

bringonsummer2022 · 15/02/2022 20:42

I am qualified to teach secondary maths. I'm not going back. The stress made me physically ill. Yes the pension is good but the salary isn't. I retrained and if I was working full time I'd be on about double what I was on as a teacher. More importantly Sunday night dread is a thing of the past, I only work with managers that are nice and I can't tell you the last time I was sworn at in the workplace (probably the last day at school). Since having kids I've been even more grateful I don't teach anymore because I see my friends leaving the classroom for part time jobs once school says full time or nothing.

Doremisofarsogood · 15/02/2022 20:55

I work in FE (16-19 College) and it's exactly the same. Demoralising, stressful, the list goes on..Workloads and expectations increase all the time. SLT swan about having no clue what really goes on. Students get away with murder because SLT don't want their figures affected. Students recently have damaged college property on several occasions, threatened a female member of staff a couple of times, routinely turn up late or don't bother at all and nothing happens! THE SLT won't suspend them because of their figures. Other students are experiencing crippling MH issues resulting from the pandemic and where our September intake should be fairly mature 16 year olds, they're more like 13/14 mentally. As a PP said, most of the time the staff are just fire fighting with hardly any time to do their actual jobs. Literally the only reason for me staying is because I get the school holidays off which saves me forking out on childcare.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/02/2022 20:58

I got I’ll health retirement. It destroyed my mental health.

All l feel a year later is relief. It was bloody awful.