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How to know if child is smart enough for 11 plus

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Gettingthereslowly2020 · 19/03/2021 12:28

DD is in Year 4 (state school) now. She's always been quite bright and she always says the work at school is too easy for her.

School don't give much feedback on how she is doing academically. At the last parent's evening pre-Covid, they showed me a chart that said she is working at the expected standard. At the last parent's evening during Covid, it was done over the phone and the teacher said she sometimes gives her some Year 5 work and she keeps up with them.

I've noticed her spelling isn't great and she doesn't do any work outside of school. I have to force her to do some reading but she does really enjoy learning at school. She seems to be in the top group in class from what she's said.

How can I find out if she is smart enough for grammar school? School do assessments but they never share the results with parents. Can I request that they share her results with me?

I don't really know where to start with all of this so any advice would be much appreciated.

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fuschia2000 · 24/03/2021 13:20

Go for it!! Tutor plus some home learning with relevant bond/ cgp books- nothing to lose as the extra work will stand her in good stead wherever she goes.

The 11+ forum has great resources
www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/

Good luck xx

Beamur · 24/03/2021 13:31

My DD goes to a grammar. At primary I would have said she was middling to bright. She came in the top 5% of the 11+ scores and has been predicted 7/8 GCSE grades across all subjects.
High school suits some brighter kids better than plodding along at primary.
Good tips already, do lots of reading, prep quite hard for maths if she's not already very competent. I think it's a myth that you can tutor kids to pass who then fail at school. You can only teach them technique and skills. You can't put the answers in their heads.
GS suit bright kids who like academic learning. They have upsides and downsides and you need to decide if the ethos of the school fits your child.
A bit of light tutoring for exam techniques and higher level maths is helpful. A tutor who knows the local requirements is a good move.

Daniamom27 · 26/03/2021 13:10

Maybe call the school to get a teacher to speak to you? If this is the approach you want to go through, you can do it anyway. She doesn't have to be a genius?

SpanishLady · 26/03/2021 14:06

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Gettingthereslowly2020 · 26/03/2021 14:12

@Daniamom27

Maybe call the school to get a teacher to speak to you? If this is the approach you want to go through, you can do it anyway. She doesn't have to be a genius?
I did

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winterrabbit · 31/03/2021 23:03

My DS2 is in top sets in his state primary, hardworking, loves learning and we were told incessantly by teachers/tutors that he is very bright and capable and easily grammar school material. He didn't get into either of the grammar schools he sat for (we are in North London). Around 20 kids from his school sat and I think 2 got in. It's a 1 in 10 chance basically. I actually wish we hadn't tried or tried the independents he sat for as it put so much pressure on him and me and the rejections are simply awful. if you come back to Mumsnet to ask you child didn't get in people will ask why you put your child through it when you should have known they weren't bright enough.

firedog · 31/03/2021 23:11

I know someone who did the same. Moved house into Trafford grammar catchment. Tutored for two years twice a week. No offers. Similarly an old neighbour moved into Trafford for their bright DD to go to Alty girls. Now at a comp as didn't get in. Heard of several times over. Loads who spent a fortune on tutors and moved to try and get in. Some are so far down that track & invested that they end up paying to go private instead.

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