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Avatar1 · 02/01/2021 19:13

Hi all, hope everyone managed to have a good start to the year ...

looks really exciting here, was wondering if anyone could help direct me into charity foundation that can help to support fees as my daughter has been offered a secondary fee paying school. I tried a handfull of trusts but they either for universities and special criteria as well as the E.T.F...being on low income, appreciate any guidance where we could head towards...

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m0therofdragons · 02/01/2021 22:06

I’m intrigued why you think putting a dc in a school full of wealthy families when your dc is charity funded would be a good idea?

lcdododo · 02/01/2021 22:07

@CreepyCreepster

Last thread got deleted because OP didn't like the replies Hmm
Oh damn!
KingsHeathen · 02/01/2021 22:25

What is ETF in this context please, @Avatar1

Avatar1 · 02/01/2021 22:35

Education trust

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Avatar1 · 02/01/2021 22:35

If I think a dc is what I assume it is then you should 're educate

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lcdododo · 02/01/2021 22:39

On the basis you can't even string a sentence together then I highly doubt you've got any chance of persuading someone to give you money to educate your child when their is perfectly good FREE education available

titchy · 02/01/2021 22:43

@Avatar1

If I think a dc is what I assume it is then you should 're educate
dc is an acronym used on this forum for 'darling child/ren' Confused

OP it sounds as if you will have to accept a state school for your child. For what it's worth the majority of kids at top universities went to state schools - they're fine.

Mummy195 · 02/01/2021 22:49

@lcdododo

On the basis you can't even string a sentence together then I highly doubt you've got any chance of persuading someone to give you money to educate your child when their is perfectly good FREE education available
This is very unpleasant. First you say you want to have a laugh about someone looking for a bursary. Then you make fun say this, if the OP were foreign or with little education, then they shouldn't have aspirations for their clever DC?

What am I missing here?

KingsHeathen · 02/01/2021 22:50

An education trust? Do you mean like a charitable foundation? Or do you mean a fund that grandparents or parents have set up?

NoToMisogyny · 02/01/2021 22:51

A lot of nastiness in this thread. Mocking someone’s English is really low. As is mocking the idea of a less well off child being among those with wealthy parents. Ok, so the OP’s daughter may not qualify for a bursary but what are you saying about all the children that do?

Drowninginwashing · 02/01/2021 22:53

Tend to agree a bit with @mummy195 - it does sound a little like OP does not have english as their first language (forgive me if I'm wrong here OP - certainly not meant as an insult). Perhaps she isn't over familiar with the educational system here? Nothing wrong with wanting the best for your kids OP but lots of state schools are great.

Avatar1 · 02/01/2021 23:01

I think we're getting wires twisted...it's charitable fund ...

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m0therofdragons · 02/01/2021 23:01

I meant no nastiness. We looked at independent schools for dd but felt we’d rather use the money for family holidays and providing dd with a good home life and spare money than her be one of the poorer dc at the independent school we looked at. It would have been a stretch for us. I think dc can be cruel often pick on the weakest, whether they’re in state or independent schools. If you live in a three bed semi and your friends at school all have mansions it’s easy to feel not good enough. The benefit of private education is a combination of small classes, opportunity and networking links but likeminded families of similar wealth tend to mix together.

lcdododo · 02/01/2021 23:06

@Mummy195

But OP doesn't want a bursary. She wants someone else to fund her child's education because she thinks they're 'special' and she's already had an identical thread where everyone said the same.

NoToMisogyny · 02/01/2021 23:10

Yes but people have implied that poorer kids shouldn’t be around wealthy kids/ families anyway.

I’m sure there are issues sometimes but the kids I know who attend top ranking indie schools with (sometimes 100pc) bursaries are very happy. Their friends don’t give two fucks about the house they live in.

PatriciaHolm · 02/01/2021 23:10

educational-grants.org/find-charity/?all=1

Here. However, I think you will find they are all aimed at very specific groups (e.g children of specific work types, or bereaved) or for children who are already at private school and have exceptional circumstances for requiring a funds to continue.

m0therofdragons · 02/01/2021 23:20

@NoToMisogyny like always it will depend on the school. We have friends who have dc at independents and one family is totally fine and part of the school the other is a teacher so dc are subsidised in the school (which is a feeder for Eaton) and the horror stories she tells me of those with superiority complexes over the teacher’s family are truly hideous. She’s a teacher for the love of it with a first class Cambridge degree in maths and her dh is a high earner but because she’s “just a teacher” some parents (the minority) treat her as staff. She turned up to a play date with her ds, was offered coffee so stayed and the “host” presented her with coffee then said she’d be back in an hour because my friend was a teacher so used to dc and could watch them play while the mum (whose house the play date was in) went for a run, because the nanny was off sick.

Anyway, depends on school and child. The independent I liked just closed (went bankrupt) but the supposedly good local independent didn’t impress me at all to the point I preferred the state school. Bursaries are great but not just for the sake of a posh school. Posh doesn’t mean good imo.

Lougle · 02/01/2021 23:21

This is why we have state schools. Most children go to state schools.

Iamthewombat · 02/01/2021 23:23

Do you work? If so, maybe ask your employers for assistance?

Dear employer, please pay me an extra £15k a year (after tax!) for the next seven years so that my daughter can go to private school. Or you could just pay the school directly and gross up the PAYE and NI on the benefit through a PAYE settlement, that will only cost you about double.

What’s that? No chance? Don’t you value my contribution enough to do me this small favour?

NoToMisogyny · 02/01/2021 23:25

I agree. Depends on the school and the child. I also agree that state schools are perfectly fine! If your child is one that would ‘have a lot to offer’ a private school they will have just as much to offer a state school.

SnowballedMum · 02/01/2021 23:33

Depending upon what you do, some employers provide loans or a package instead of a bonus. All is up for negotiation. Not the full cost however a contribution that will help.

Needhelpwithaquestion · 02/01/2021 23:35

Ahhh OP, I think it’s unlikely that your child will get funding unless from the school itself. You should speak with them directly.

Please note though, a primary success characteristic is parents engagement. You are clearly engaged and your children will succeed in the state sector if need be

Iamthewombat · 02/01/2021 23:39

Depending upon what you do, some employers provide loans or a package instead of a bonus. All is up for negotiation. Not the full cost however a contribution that will help.

If the OP thought that she was in line for annual bonuses to cover the fees, she wouldn’t be asking about bursaries or contributions. She can’t afford private school.

Like the ‘negotiation’ idea though: dear employer, please loan me £105k (£15k per year, before inflation) over seven years, at nil interest. I’ll pay you back, honest!

SE13Mummy · 03/01/2021 00:17

If you are not eligible for a bursary or occupational funding e.g. armed forces, clergy family etc. but own your own home and there is equity in it, you could ask the bursar if the school is involved with EdAid - families are able to spread the cost of fees over a longer period where they have equity available but do not have the ability to raise additional finance. You would still end up paying the fees but over a longer period of time. We looked into this for DC2 as we have a significant amount of equity in our home but only because we're in London and property values have increased over the twenty years we've owned our home. DH and I are both teachers, already work full time and have no prospect of increasing our income to extend our mortgage. DC is now at a local state comprehensive and is very happy.

MuseumGardens · 03/01/2021 02:05

.I'm really sure there must be something to arrange options between school parents and a fund provider ...the government have put lots of extra funding in place so that this is possible
What government funding are you referring to?