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Head of St Pauls Girl’s School

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jeanne16 · 27/05/2019 19:30

Anyone else find the article about the forthcoming book by Clarissa Farr about her time as Head of SPGS extraordinary. She complains that parents are too pushy and that independent schools are too focused on getting the top academic results.

Since that is an exact description of St Paul’s itself, it seems odd to complain about it.

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Rockylady · 29/05/2019 00:02

She may have been brilliant and done good in the past but I am highly suspicious her book is a lot more about monetising that experience than about the content and reaching out. I think she is divorced now but in any case a good publisher would have told her about how and when to plant good press and where, just ahead of the book release. It all sounds just about well timed.

She may be a governor at Winchester and well deserved but she knows a few influencers there and it is a school after all, so nothing new to her. I was not saying she is a lightweight on the contrary she seems very well spoken albeit contrived and playing the part, it is just that in other board environments I can see she may struggle if she does not get it exactly her way. And frankly my own experience of seeing her is that she was very well spoken but not very insightful and definitely (always) running an agenda.

Hopefully the book has some content and it is not just a money spinner. I know in her latter years, she was not that popular at the school (in fact this is public if you google too)

Polyjuice · 29/05/2019 00:22

I agree with Rockylady. And I also suspect "the wrong college" was an entertaining retelling of an off the cuff remark: I've heard that indies are often advising applicants to focus on lower profile colleges now the pressure is on Oxbridge re diversity of intake. So many parents may be slightly surprised that their superbright DDs are steered to apply to less prestigious colleges than the ones they themselves attended, perhaps. But it sounds terrible (and far more interesting) when it's put as the newspapers have it. I daresay the newspapers have spiced up what CF has written in her book. When I attended CF's talks, I never had any impression of these views she has put across in the book (or as it has been reported, at least). But the new head is very sincere, intellectual and comes across very well -and not at all as a media-hungry head of the type we are seeing more and more of these days. Which is a good thing for the school in my view.

BubblesBuddy · 29/05/2019 08:30

You never know what anyone will do when they move on! So I assume you think CF wasn’t sufficiently intellectual? That’s a bit snobby! Typical St P parent view perhaps? So she just was not good enough. No doubt us country bumpkins at lesser schools are easily pleased.

Mutakirorikatum · 29/05/2019 09:04

CF looks like she has an eating disorder, which is very much not the role model I’d want for my daughter, regardless of academics.

Rockylady · 29/05/2019 09:29

Yes I don't blame her for moving on. She must be so resilient to keep on going on that job for so long. It just feels uncomfortable she is all about monetising now on a subject that should be far away from money.

So it is tricky to get people to take you seriously from now on. Wonder what her book audience will be, a composite of the curious and the ones who are trying to learn everything about getting your girl into a new school. It is a pity because she must have something to say about building resilience and having passion for what you do. But no, the selling theme here is bashing the SPGS parents for being too pushy. That will get a few more books out the door...

As for her weight (poor thing she is really in the limelight but then, be careful what you wish for!) she does look a bit thin in some pictures but I honestly think she looked normal when I met her in person recently.

Rockylady · 29/05/2019 09:32

And you can still be really intellectual and well spoken but not insightful. Or not suited for other jobs.

Rockylady · 29/05/2019 09:45

And. Releasing the book in the Autumn is perfect timing to go to the market with all those SPGS and other top schools hopeful parents. Never mind releasing it after Christmas when all the exam prep is virtually over!

BubblesBuddy · 29/05/2019 09:45

She’s always been skinny! She used to do a lot of running.

I don’t think being a very well paid head and having something to say about education are separate. One follows from the other. I guess she’s around 69 now so she wants to write a book and publicise it. Loads of professional people do this. The extracts will be sensationalised but the message is still right.

Rockylady · 29/05/2019 10:06

How do you know the message is right, have you read the book?

nylon14 · 29/05/2019 11:32

To be fair this message of pushy parents is fair from new. www.telegraph.co.uk/education/11262228/Top-head-attacks-pushy-snowplough-parents.html

nylon14 · 29/05/2019 11:33

Far from... Sorry stupid phone.

Bluerussian · 29/05/2019 11:35

Don't forget the article would have been edited and condensed.

However it is true that some parents are pushy and unrealistic about their child's expectations I've come across that frequently.

volpemum · 29/05/2019 11:53

I was talking to my best friend about this article yesterday ! She has a DD at SPGS. She laughed about it as she says its pretty accurate - the girls are under immense pressure from both the school and from a lot of the parents. She said the pressure is not only academic but there is also pressure to excel at something else like sport or music, and despite the volume of homework girls tend to play a multitude of sports outside school to keep up. But to be fair my friend's DD is happy. She initially struggled with the fact that she went from being the top at everything at her primary school to having to work hard to keep up = but she is ok about it. I think you just have to know what you are signing up to and be sure that you have a DD that is strong enough to deal with it all. My DD is academically strong but would definitely not cope (and nor would i to be honest !!!) But have to admit that I would also be curious to read CF's book !

Girlgone · 29/05/2019 12:17

My experience of CF is that she she was so disengaged with the parents and girls that she wouldn’t have had a clue what was happening on a daily basis within the classroom, I don’t think she knew more than a handful of girls names. She gravitated solely towards the wealthy parents/ would be donors. Rate my teachers presents her in a fairly accurate manner.
Sarah Fletcher is a breath of fresh air.

Polyjuice · 29/05/2019 13:11

Well put Girlgone. From what I saw she seemed very remote.

I didn’t say CF wasn’t intellectual Bubbles, far from it. I just think it’s poor form to run a school in a certain way then write a book running down the parents who were attracted largely because it achieved those results etc. Nor did I make any comment about country schools (I attended one myself and I did very well there even though its results are miles apart from SPGS). That wasn’t what I said at all. It was merely a remark about the impression I have of the current head, whom I like very much.

Girlgone · 29/05/2019 14:35

Sarah Fletcher is so visible and approachable and since joining appears far more invested in school life. Clarissa Farr was much more of a figurehead. The high staff turnover was always questionable under her, one imagines she put the teachers under the same pressure to turn in the grades. To write a book concerning academic pressure having ridden the crest of stellar academic results for years seems disingenuous.

BubblesBuddy · 29/05/2019 19:10

Obviously she’s around 60 not 69!

I think she changed then. She was always visible to the girls at Q. In fact she taught the y7s to get to know them. She visited the boarding houses regularly. I don’t think parents of boarding DC expect to see her that much but she was at every play, concert, sports match and event that I ever went to and I went to loads.

I do think being a Head has changed. The head who took over from CF courted monied parents. CF might have done but it was not overt. Lots of schools now make it obvious and have special events did rich parents and donors. Rugby do this but it’s widespread. I also think it comes from the governors. They often take great interest in finance with an accountant or two on board so the direction of travel isn’t down to just the head.

Girlgone · 29/05/2019 23:00

Bubbles buddy- no- she would only turn up for the orchestra performances and Christmas concert, wouldn’t mingle and would disappear as quickly as possible. I recall her saying if you want sport there’s plenty of other schools you can attend to a parent who was complaining about lack of facilities. Sport really wasn’t her thing. TBH I’m sure she must have been effective behind the scenes to have stayed so long,but was she part of a school community, definitely not!

Needmoresleep · 30/05/2019 09:44

I would agree with OP and Mominatrix's early posts.

London day schools are struggling with a sky high parental aspirations, but SPGS is in a different league altogether, and from the outside there is no indication that the school are trying to change it.

Some years ago but DD was taking part in a holiday activity in North East London. At the end of the second day the instructor asked if DD was having problems with one girl who was clearly super competitive and over-bearing. I think he wanted to have a word with the parents but was seeking some evidence of the impact her behaviour was having on other children. I said that DD was OK because she was used to Paulinas, which triggered questions from the confused instructor about why such behaviours were deemed acceptable for pupils from any school. He was right.

The confidence is odd. Even women in late middle age seem to need to tell you they were at SPGS, so it is long-standing. Now coupled with super competitive London parenting, with a place at SPGS being seen as the ultimate goal, and it can become toxic. We certainly knew of some casualties.

The fundraising sounded a bit scary. I once heard a seriously affluent Kensington banker's wife boasting loudly about being invited to one of Clarissa's dinners. "They are only after your money" said another less affluent parent who had never been invited. "Yes I know. I think she must research us." Similar tales of being interviewed by other parents before you could be invited to take part in parents activities, and the poshest school fete in West London. There seemed to be a lot of us and them going on amongst the parents which appeared to extend to the girls. Plus some astonishing involvement in a child's day to day school life, and some pretty objectionable competition amongst mothers. I really did hear mothers write off their DDs friends as "not very bright". And of a girl who amassed a 100 pairs of shoes during year 7, as in her friendship group being bright was not good enough. No uniform policy and you had to be seen to be cool. (I preferred the G&L girls on the tube who were wonderfully creative about what they did with their unpromising uniform.)

One reason we turned down a place at SPS for our DS was after hearing a Colet mother describe one of DS' friends who had gone there aged 7 as not nearly as bright as her son, who apparently ranked third in the year. We did not want to be part of that. Westminster had a big advantage in that it ran like a boarding school so contact was via housemasters, and boys/parents had very little idea of how others were doing.

I would not put it all down to Clarissa. I suspect the governance structure may be partly to blame for the focus on high grades. (My observation is that Westminster, which is essentially led by representatives of the CoE rather than the City, have more leeway to recruit pupils who will add to school life.) Not least it will be responsible for the high fees, which has led more than one parent to opt for Putney High - simply because the difference did not seem worth the cost of a family holiday. (Even to attend the sixth from open day would have cost us about £150: Westminster and KCW did not charge - and we did not bother.) The change in catchment from upper-middle class journalists, doctors, MPs and academics to bankers and the international super rich will also have had an impact. There is some astonishing 11+ tutoring going on, the impact, like with Tiffin, is for some parents to decide there are other good options and that a less pressured childhood is more important.

That said, parents told me that when Clarissa started there was a distinct move towards a greater exam focus. She may claim now to be worried about this, but she almost certainly was part of the problem.

Still I am looking forward to the book. I hope it is as gossipy as John Rae's memoirs of Westminster School in the 70's, though I suspect it won't be.

Girlgone · 30/05/2019 13:03

Needmoresleep- so did your add attend Spgs?

Girlgone · 30/05/2019 13:03

Dd not add 🙄

Needmoresleep · 30/05/2019 13:13

No, but she would have known, one way or another, at least 30 who had gone to SPGS who were in her year group.

They tended to be quite distinctive. Some were very talented, some were very happy, but not all.

Rockylady · 30/05/2019 13:29

I think CF’s book is coming out too soon. If her focus is SPGS then she is just fresh out and has not got time to reflect on her [10]? years there. I would not expect the book will offer insight on what she could have done better and what she did well if she wrote it last year. She is not that kind of reflective person, she longs for some validation and is searching for a new place in life with the standing of her former role. So I believe the book will have little value as a legacy of some kind, which surely will be a bit of a regret for her because it will lack the impact that she is looking for. Maybe her second book will do it….

That is my view anyways. Her timing does speak lots though. New board position, new book and new hairdo. She was scourging parents as if they were teenagers (granted pushy and painful but still grownups). She is not the type that takes feedback too easily and expects you to look up to her like her teenagers would. I do not expect much reflection in her prose but more a well written announcement of how she sees things and her marching orders (and she is hoping we will revere and admire it).
I do agree with OP and @Girlgone that it is all a bit disingenuous. She is rushing with a book to get out there and only reinforces the image she already has.

On the lighter side, I do not think we will get much gossip either – too soon for that again!

merrygoround51 · 30/05/2019 13:31

When I read articles like this I am so glad we made the decision to move to Ireland

Had we stayed in London its likely that we would have ended up sending our DDs to a school like this and, whereas I have no doubt they would have experienced a broader curriculum, their lives would have been so needlessly competitive at such a young age.

Getting ahead has become utterly toxic and damaging for our teens development of self

Oratory1 · 30/05/2019 19:08

Such a shame when the reflections of an experienced head could really add some insight to the education debate - this one certainly doesn't look like its going to. I think I'll just wait for Patrick Dereham's which may actually be worth reading.