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How bad is it for a child to be put on a behaviour report?

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Andyfromtoystory · 09/05/2019 19:05

Is it bad for a child to be put on behaviour report? Something I’ve never taken lightly but starting to think that maybe it’s not that bad considering the amount of pupils on it in my sons year

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Dermymc · 10/05/2019 18:45

24 over a year really isn't a lot OP. The 3% I quoted was at any one time.....not across the whole year. I'd say about 15% of students end up on report at some point over the academic year. Especially if you include subject specific reports.

Andyfromtoystory · 10/05/2019 18:50

Oh no that’s quite bad then , nevertheless I will always back school up regardless of the statistics but that doesn’t necessarily change his behaviour which is why he’s been on it longer than I anticipated despite the consequences at home and school such as PS4 loss, no friends round. I just wished other parents would do things and back the school up like me because it would help a lot

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Dermymc · 10/05/2019 18:51

The teachers wish all parents would back it up too Wink

LolaSmiles · 11/05/2019 16:32

OP
You sound great. Being on report isn't good and it's important that what some may consider 'minor' things are nipped in the bud so the student and their peers can do well. A united front is a good place to start.

I agree with others re the 'loveable rogue' defence. It's not loveable at all. It's like when people coo over 4 year olds misbehaving by saying they're a cheeky monkey or a little tyke. The minimising of lesson disruption and ignoring disruption has an impact on everyone else learning.

crosser62 · 11/05/2019 21:21

Thanks.
We do support school with sanctions. We do attend all meetings called to discuss and tackle behaviour.
We are actively involved in discussing each cross and each tick on report cards.
We support school with detentions .. which are numerous.

And yet the “low level” disruptive behaviour continues.

Adequate sleep, restricted screen time, good diet, good amounts of exercise, open, loving communicative relationship with both parents and yet this behaviour continues.

We have told him the consequences of his shitty behaviour on those around him trying to work hard.
And yet the behaviour continues.

This has been from the day my child stared school. On the black cloud instead of the rainbow, on report, detentions galore.

My child detests school, goes every single day, 100% attendee.
Academically poor.

I despair and I know that his poor teachers do too.
Sometimes, you do everything right but sometimes it’s down to the kid and to the school to take the reigns.

TeenTimesTwo · 11/05/2019 21:30

OP is that you? I presume you have considered and ruled out any possibility of undiagnosed SN, eg ADHD, dyspraxia etc impacting behaviour and concentration/attainment?

crosser62 · 11/05/2019 21:38

School have always been adamant that there is no adhd/sen with my child.

I think that there is. Always ALWAYS been different to peers, always been behaviourally challenging from being tiny.
Never slept, was5 years old before slept a full night through, destructive, loud, continuously bangs/taps feet/hands/ table/chair. I always know where in the house my kid is because I can hear them.
Cannot be trusted in s room alone, will single handedly dismantle a room in minutes.

I’m tired. All the time tired.

TeenTimesTwo · 11/05/2019 21:45

OP. Why not post in SN chat?

List the behaviours from when young and now that you feel are different from his peers. Consider behaviour, concentration, coordination, academics, day to day life.

See if anyone can help you. They may point you towards something, including maybe a checklist you can take to a GP/SENCO.

My DD1 got a dyspraxia diagnosis in y11. I knew her motor skills were rubbish but didn't realise that a bunch of other stuff was linked. Getting the diagnosis really helped, but getting it earlier would have been better.

GreenTulips · 11/05/2019 21:48

My child was on report for
Being late
Being disorganized
Not focusing
Not doing homework

He’s dyslexic - I used the report to back my request for diagnosis

crosser62 · 11/05/2019 21:49

Numerous teachers have told me no, there is no sen with my child.
They are the professionals.

I have always been convinced because my kid just isn’t right.

Now I have a second, with a huge age gap as I couldn’t cope with having another the same and the difference is staggering.

TeenTimesTwo · 11/05/2019 21:51

Primary told me in y6 there was nothing for me to worry about with DD1. Looking back at the list I wrote for them it's all there in black and white. Ask MN. MN has tons of experience. You've nothing to lose.

gonnabreakmyrustycage · 11/05/2019 21:59

As a teacher I can tell you it is only the really disruptive students who are on report. It’s a last resort and I have never seen a child on report who is “loved” by all teachers and just a cheeky kid. They are a massive PITA and ruin the lessons for the others in their class. You must make sure you support the school and try and tackle behavioural issues at home.

Alsoplayspiccolo · 11/05/2019 22:00

crosser, I first raised concerns about my DD when she was tiny. The health visitor told me I must have PND. When DS was born a couple of years later, the difference between them was HUGE. Still, the HV told me that DD couldn't have ADHD because children with ADHD never sleep.
It took until DD was 7, having seen OT, ed. psych, speech and language, dyslexia specialists etc.
Please don't think that teachers can diagnose SEN, especially behavioural; ADHD can look like bad behaviour.

ItsAFuckingPotato · 11/05/2019 22:01

My ds has ADHD an sounds similar in behavior. He gets detentions constantly despite taking five minutes.outnof the classroom to calm.down if needed. Has never been on report though.

Singleandproud · 11/05/2019 22:02

Low level disruption, chatting, messing around with equipment, turning up late, is far more harmful to the class than serious behaviour that gets a child removed straight away. With some classes it feels like you are playing ‘Whack a mole’ you deal with one student and then another starts etc. If they are chatty every lesson then that is a lot of learning time the class has lost. Ive heard some students talking in the corridor asking each other if they are going to play up for Mr X or Miss Y so its not even that they cant help it, they plan to be disruptive on purpose.

Lots of children are on various reports in my school, we are in a very deprived area where many students have a very poor home environment with far too many witnessing DV etc and they act out at school as well as those that are ‘cheeky’ chaps it doesn’t make the report any less serious just because lots are on them. Reports are too support students as well as a sanction.

birmanbaby · 11/05/2019 22:11

DS was on report last term, all low level stuff (staff words not mine).

They have a three warning system. Each kid is tracked by how many warnings they get and at what level. If they hit a certain amount they are put on report.

We requested a meeting and were told he would go on report for a week with a target of a maximum of 5 warnings. His behaviour was all low level stuff: took his blazer off, no pen, chewing gum, calling out without his hand up, wrong shoes!

He managed a week with no warnings and got taken off report.

The school told us the same thing as another poster, teachers were loath to record warnings as he’s a lovely boy etc etc. We told them to bloody record them! Don’t give him an inch!

GreenTulips · 11/05/2019 22:19

gonnabreakmyrustycage

There’s usually a reason for bad behaviour - my child is dyslexic - he couldn’t acces the learning as they didn’t provide the support they needed - hence bordem sets in which leads to disruption, or lack of work. Poor memory and concentration were not being dealt with.

Not all disruptive kids are ‘just naughty’

youarenotkiddingme · 11/05/2019 22:26

I don't think it's how bad being in report is - but rather why they are on report.

Sometimes it's used as monitoring. It can be great for getting a picture. Is it 1 subject, a 'type' of subject, particular day or time of day, particular teacher.

Locally we have schools where you literally have to be beating pure shit out of pupils numerous times a day for weeks before report is given. And the other end of the scale where you only need to have have had 3 strikes (forgot a pen/ shirt untucked etc) to go on report.

Obviously none is acceptable but I've seen such a wide range of expectation and consequence in various settings to wonder if there's any better solution.

PurpleCrowbar · 11/05/2019 22:36

My teenage ds is on report atm as per my request (& he's in agreement with the need for it).

He's dyspraxic so uses a laptop rather than handwriting. Tends to become distracted & ends up faffing. Very bright but underachieving.

The issue we have is that ds will be quietly daydreaming & getting naff all work done, under the radar of the poor class teacher who is run ragged dealing with those delightful 'loveable rogue' 'cheeky chappy' type classmates who frankly suck teachers' energy & goodwill dry, & take their attention away from other students.

The report is working quite well for ds.

If 'being on report' is being imposed by the school, then you can confidently assume your dc is being a monumental PITA. Not to say they aren't a lovely kid, but right now, things aren't going well & their behaviour is impacting on others.

Yes, it's quite a big deal.

birmanbaby · 12/05/2019 00:25

**My teenage ds is on report atm as per my request (& he's in agreement with the need for it).

He's dyspraxic so uses a laptop rather than handwriting. Tends to become distracted & ends up faffing. Very bright but underachieving.

The issue we have is that ds will be quietly daydreaming & getting naff all work done, under the radar of the poor class teacher who is run ragged dealing with those delightful 'loveable rogue' 'cheeky chappy' type classmates who frankly suck teachers' energy & goodwill dry, & take their attention away from other students.**

Seriously?!

So your kid is on report but it’s fine as he’s just a bit distracted and “faffing” (why the fuck would you want him on report if apparently it isn’t his fault anyway)

But all the other kids on report are PITA’s take time away from the teacher who should be concentrating on what? stopping your kid from getting distracted and faffing?

Jeezus wept

PurpleCrowbar · 12/05/2019 01:06

Because it monitors the faffing. Otherwise he's under the radar as a nicely behaved kid who isn't disrupting anyone.

So he is on report, pushed by me, which he has to get signed off every lesson to demonstrate he's actually been working.

Short term measure & really quite effective. I teach at the school & we do this sort of report for kids who aren't getting their arse into gear a LOT.

Behaviour reports are for actively being a nuisance, & disrupting other students' learning.

Being away with the fairies would be an 'effort & attainment' type report, q.v. slacker/distracted ds (who has, to be fair, never disturbed anyone else's learning in his life, & is a bit mystified as to why some of his classmates feel the need to play silly buggers).

stopitandtidyupp · 12/05/2019 02:33

Low level disruption is so prevalent and is removing teachers from the profession. If I was to quit this would by why! The incessant need to think chatter is the best thing.

It is my biggest bug bear!

Gcses start next week. The amount of pupils that would rather spend the revision session chattering is staggering and that's at a good school!

Low level disruption is insidious whatever the reason and it needs to be stopped.

treenu · 12/05/2019 07:55

@stopitandtidyup I feel your pain.

I actually asked several students to stop coming to my revision sessions now. If they talk through my lessons they don't deserve my extra time like the others that have worked hard!

yoshismother · 12/05/2019 08:04

Pipandmum's attitude is why so many teachers are leaving the profession I bet!!

Oblomov19 · 12/05/2019 08:05

3%? Seems very low. Ours is a lot higher than that. I'm sure of that. Our school has lots of children on detention, every week. and most parents I know have had their child on report once. Ds1 has been on report 3 times. There are currently 40 children on report in his year 10. That's average to low.
This is a very strict, very high achieving catholic school.