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How are your kids' GCSEs or A levels affecting YOUR mental health?

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Wonderwine · 16/05/2018 13:41

I wanted to start a thread to chat specifically about the impact of exams on the rest of the family.

We have DS1 doing A levels ad DS2 doing GCSEs so we always knew this was going to be a horrible term, but I think I massively underestimated the way in which exam season would impact me (and to some extent DH too).

Here are some of the ways it's affected me which I hadn't really thought about before:

  • the energy required to be constantly 'on call' for any revision crisis/ needing to stay positive to reassure and 'talk up' the DCs confidence when they have a wobble
  • feeling responsible for making sure that they eat/ sleep/revise/have downtime sensibly
  • DH ranting at me when he comes home and asks about how much revision DS2 has done
  • accepting random angry outbursts from the DCs as 'understandable' and trying to ignore
  • constantly having to answer questions like "what happens if I don't get my grades and can't go to Uni/ Sixth Form?'
  • constantly being required to replenish exam stocks of black pens, protractors, bottled water
  • feeling like I need to know DS2's timetable (he has a mild SpLD) to ensure he is always where he should be

I feel totally shattered and wrung out and the exams have only just started.
DS2 came home yesterday after Biology and had an angry rant because "you didn't tell me to revise yeast and fermentation.." Confused
(He did apologise later though)

This morning I woke up with a panic attack as I though DS1 had slept in and he had a Maths exam (he hadn't - he was already up).

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goodbyestranger · 18/05/2018 12:42

I can assure you OP I don't feel I'm in any competition. That would be extremely odd on an internet site. I merely commented about my own approach because you asked people how they felt. But as soon as people are honest and say they keep fairly calm and don't intervene the reaction on these threads is then always a 'ooh get you' type of post, imputing competitiveness where there is actually none. I'm clearly far from alone in leaving DC to it and trusting their school. I think those who intervene with revision guides/ flash cards/ close text analyses of mark schemes etc tend to be the feverishly competitive ones, not those who don't (special needs apart).

Unihorn · 18/05/2018 12:48

I'm far far off this with two under 2 currently but my exams were only around 8-10 years ago and my parents didn't get involved at all: I'd be surprised if they even knew when mine were, but then I was the 4th child. Is it normal for parents to get so involved or is it more recent due to changes in exams and things?

goodbyestranger · 18/05/2018 13:21

It seems surprisingly normal on MN but whether it benefits the DC or simply adds to pressure is a moot point Unihorn.

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TeenTimesTwo · 18/05/2018 13:50

Uni 8-10 years ago exams were modular, with resit capability, and loads of coursework / CAs. It is not the same as now.

Different children need different amounts of help.
Different parents have different expectations / priorities.

Some children are quite capable of sorting out their own revision, and need little more than some nice food to keep them going.
Other children really want to do well, but are overwhelmed by balancing the needs of 10 different subjects and need help with a strategy.
Other children can't see the link between revision, results & later opportunities. Some parents say let them fail, it is a lesson to be learned. Others say, no GCSEs are with you for life and so want the best results for their kids.
Some children kick back if pushed. Others will knuckle down.

And all of that is before you get the kids like mine with dyspraxia (can't organise, trouble focussing, needed 1-1 revision with me), or dyslexia, or ASD, or ADHD, or other mental health issues, or physical health issues.

We are all doing what we think is best. For some of us it can be stressful helping our youngsters through all this. For those with kids able to and actually doing revision and organisation without help, you don't know how lucky you are.

Wonderwine · 18/05/2018 13:54

Unihorn - I think the consensus would be that some parents get heavily involved because they genuinely believe their children need that support (for SN or other reasons) and er, well, some parents just are uber competitive and get heavily involved Grin.

My parents certainly weren't involved in my O levels (showing my age Wink) but then they were both working full time and on odd shifts.
It may possibly be worse these days as more parents work from home and perhaps can't help being more aware of what's going on with their DC e.g. whether they're playing Fortnite for 8 hours instead of revising for example! Once they are on study leave they are largely 'on their own' unless parents are around or school arranges revision sessions. Some DC are better able to navigate and organise/motivate themselves than others during this time.

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goodbyestranger · 18/05/2018 14:33

But back to your original post Wonderwine - you should probably recognise that your husband's ranting at you (your description) is incredibly abnormal and I do wonder what kind of negative impact that must have on both of your DSs, but especially on your DS2. No DC should have to listen to that or have someone with that kind of attitude in the house over the exam period. Could your husband stay somewhere else until the exams are over? It's not fair or ok and yet you say your DS2 needs parental support - this is the opposite.

mimtza · 18/05/2018 14:34

I agree that it totally varies, I also believe that special needs not special needs is a meaningless divide - that there is a spectrum. Some DCare far enough along the spectrum to be labelled and some are not.

THe DS I am talking about on this thread is actually DS2. DS1 is what everybody labels as special needs - he has a diagnosed condition (Lissencephaly - which means smooth brain) occasioned by a random genetic mutation, which in practice means that, despite being almost 17, he has the capability of (at best) a 5-7 month baby). He cannot walk, he cannot talk, he has regular epileptic fitting, and his (special) schooling involves physiotherapy and hydrotherapy and eye gaze machines. That is the extreme end of the special needs spectrum.
But at the other end, DC blend into the normal spectrum, which is also a spectrum. A lot of parents of special needs children end up fighting for special consideration, because they are so much closer to the norm that the council does not want to spend money on them. The council doesn't want to spend money on my DS1 either, but certain things it can't argue, like the need for a statement.
As well as dealing with epileptic fitting at night, daily care and the management of such and the stresses and strains of hospital visits for DS1, and the borderline ADD/ADHD of DS2 (will CAMUS take us seriously, i don't know, we shall see, he has so many compensatory strengths that means that they may not be prepared to offer any support), I am also dealing with issues with DD, who is in Year 7. But with DD, I am suspicious that a lot of that is undermaturity. She is a summer baby, and if they had been saying you could keep them back when she was iin nursery, I might have done just that. I am now thinking seriously about taking her out at the end of Year 8, giving her a year of "home schooling", and putting her back into Year 9 a year later, as I really wonder whether that might not resolve a lot of the issues, giving her the maturity to face GCSEs with much less assistance than I am putting into her Year 7. I really don't feel she was ready for a week of exams (three exams a day) which she just had this week, and the idea of independent revision was completely foreign to her, and yet there was reasonably little support from school - Math teacher: go look at the text book, work out what you are weak at, and practice that for an end of year exam on every thing they have done during the year! I don't know about the others in the class, but my 11 year old is just not capable of doing that. So I ended up doing up for her a practice paper, with questions from each of the topics she had covered during the year (culled mostly from flicking through her workbook), and she sat down with it, and we then worked out which of the topics she was on top of and which she wasn't. And those she wasn't we did more practice and I explained them a bit more, and then she trotted off to the two maths papers she had this week with reasonable confidence. Without that, I suspect her grades would end up being very significantly lower than I am hoping they would be, and then she would have told me she is "rubbish" at maths (when actually she is a reasonably able mathematician), and that would have become lodged in her head, and I reckon we would have lost another girl/woman to maths. Despite all the other demands, this seemed important enough to me to do (despite the time involved in generating a practice paper from scratch). But if she had been able to go to the textbook and work out what she was weak at (fractions, indices, but not angles), then I would have been thrilled to let her just get on and do it.

Wonderwine · 18/05/2018 14:47

goodbyestranger - you're reading too much into my one mention of 'DH ranting' and making it something it's not. It happened once and upset me at the time as I'd had a long and difficult day with DS2, and it was out of earshot of DS2, so he wasn't aware. DH thought DS2 should have managed to cover more revision of a particular topic than he had during the day and implied that I'd taken my finger off the pulse by not keeping DS2 on track! Don't worry, I soon put him (DH) right on that, and he hasn't done it again. 99% of the time he is very supportive and helpful, but we are both frustrated and worried by DS2's painfully slow progress sometimes and I guess it spills over into our conversations with each other. To suggest he should move out for the duration of exams is just silly.

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goodbyestranger · 18/05/2018 15:04

If you over egged it OP then it's not surprising that posters (not just me) react.

However, even as you explain it I'm afraid it sounds bad and your husband seems unpleasantly aggressive, even if you choose to normalise it. The phrase 'finger off the pulse' is also disturbing. It really doesn't sound a healthy atmosphere for your DS and I'm not surprised you say that you're stressed. That stress will percolate down to your DS and can only be bad. If his results are less good than your husband hopes then perhaps before any more rants he should take a rain check on his own performance first.

goodbyestranger · 18/05/2018 15:06

And I have to say that grammatically your post implies repeated rants, not a one-off. If you meant a one-off (bad enough in this situation) then it would, or should, have been phrased quite differently.

mimtza · 18/05/2018 15:08

On the mental health aspects, in my case, it is mostly issues relating to DS1 that put me over the edge - Friday's meltdown: the respite home refused every single one of dates I had asked for in August (out of three weeks), instead offering us time at the end of July and the beginning of August, when my mother is coming to stay with us from Australia. We don't go on holiday unless we can get respite for DS1, so that meant no holiday in August!!! I was in pieces. Complete meltdown.
In comparision, I therefore seems mostly to cope with DS2 and DD issues - at least I feel I can do something. I am so powerless regarding the bureaucracy that surrounds DS1, on which we are so dependent, and at a whim they just take esentials away from us (like the number of nappies we get a day suddenly going down from 5 to 4).
On the other hand, my DH, sounds a bit like yours Wonderwine, he struggles very much with the time I put into DS2 (I think he is a bit jealous, actually), because DS2's needs are harder to label and identify, and he can be very frustrating (and annoying). DS1 is so clear cut, that you can't be frustrated with him, even if we are up night after night with the fitting. Whereas it is easier to feel frustrated with DS2, because surely he should be pulling his weight a bit more, and sometimes hard to see that he really can't, and struggles to help a lot of the behaviours (singing at the top of his voice all the time - we are so sick of Hamilton, but were sick of Matilda before that).

Chablis · 18/05/2018 15:14

OP - Only you know what support your DS does or doesn't need and I think it's only natural for a parent to help with organisation and revision planning if they can. Even more so now that GCSEs are even more important for UCAS and resits are not available in January in many cases.

Mine are all through this stage now, but from my past experience you will always get some people who criticize parents who seem to be more involved than they are saying that you're raising a generation who can't think for themselves and will be a lost cause later in life Grin or that you're giving your child an 'unfair advantage'.
When people tell you that it's 'ridiculous' to help a 15 year old child make a revision timetable I do wonder if they're justifying their own decision not to get involved. Everyone is free to make their own decision about what is an acceptable level of involvement, but shouldn't belittle someone else's if it is different Hmm

hmcAsWas · 18/05/2018 15:18

Really well put TeenTimesTwo

Wonderwine · 18/05/2018 15:40

goodbyestranger - have just seen that your eighth DC is going through GCSEs - no wonder you don't want to help with revision!

My husband is fine thanks - doesn't match the profile you've created at all.

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sonnyboo · 18/05/2018 15:49

I would happily help my dd, but she is adamant that she doesn't want any help!

Also, my own parents didn't get at all involved in my studies at age 16. They barely knew what subjects I was taking, let all be get involved with my revision or making of any timetable.

I do understand that different kids have different needs and some do need extra support.

goodbyestranger · 18/05/2018 15:52

You have a point on the eighth Wonderwine! Although actually I've not changed my approach since DC1 took her GCSEs back in 2006.

Maybe your husband isn't aggressive on a regular basis but I can only go by what was in your original post - and you've got to admit it sounds bad - very bad.

WinnersClub · 18/05/2018 19:16

TeenTimes Brilliant post! sums it all up nicely, couldn't agree more. Fellow mum of dc with SN here Smile.

Floottoot · 18/05/2018 20:45

Well said, Teen.
I think it's near impossible to truly understand the difficulties SEN kids face unless you've experienced it first hand. It was only after we'd had DS that I realised how much easier life with a 'normal ' child is. He's 2 years younger than DD but light years ahead in so many ways.

BackInTime · 19/05/2018 07:57

It's absolutely clear that some parents get super involved and possibly actually ramp up pressure by doing so.

I believe this can be an issue, although not in the OPs case as there are times when parental involvement is absolutely necessary. Some parents become really over involved and overbearing and the pressure this puts on kids is not healthy or helpful. Is it any wonder that teens these days are suffering so much stress and anxiety?

LARLARLAND · 19/05/2018 08:30

I am a pretty hands off parent when it comes to exams but I admit to being really stressed at the moment. I am going to stop reading other GCSE threads on here where every poster's ds is a sporting and academic giant because it's not helping me.

BackInTime · 19/05/2018 17:25

I agree LAR on MN it’s seems every kid is either an A* student or in danger of failing. Most are somewhere in between. DD is a few years off GCSE and is already starting to stress listening to her friends say daft stuff like that if you don’t get all top grades you will only get a rubbish job and be poor. Unfortunately she does not find that this motivates her to work harder it just paralyses her with fear and a feeling that she will never be good enough or as good as her more academic friends.

Au79 · 31/05/2018 20:15

Never mind my mental health, my physical health is suffering too-terrible chest in faction all week and I just haven’t got it in me to put up with the entitled rude dd1’s behaviour today! Feel like saying, I don’t care about you or your @#£&*ing exams! I can’t even eat or cough without being abused when I get home from work and a long stressful commute.

Selfish, moi? Too right, even Mum has a limit. I’m going to do far far less for dd2, she can sink or swim next year at GCSEs.

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