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Five teachers have left DD's school including two of her GCSE teachers!

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JufusMum · 24/07/2017 09:25

DD has told me that five of her teachers have left her school including her German and her Maths teacher, the head of English and both pastoral care teachers.

She goes in year 11 in September and I'm worried about continuity for her German and Maths GCSEs. Apparently her new Maths teacher is the teacher who has previously only taught Business. Should I be worried?

School is dying on it's arse and she doesn't intend to stay there for 6th form.

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BingoFlamingos · 24/07/2017 09:28

Teaching is a rough ride at the moment and there has to bs a point where teachers leave and as a result stop teaching a child before their education ceases.
Your DD will likely be fine? What's her attainment like in maths/German ATM?
Do you know any older kids who excelled in maths/German who could tutor her?
I'm sure she will be fine.
It happens to millions of children and happens every term.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 24/07/2017 09:42

If it is only five teachers leaving that really isn't very many.

It is quite bad luck for five of her teachers to leave

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 24/07/2017 09:44

Apparently her new Maths teacher is the teacher who has previously only taught Business. Should I be worried?

This would worry me because of the demands of the new GCSE. It isn't that rare to a maths teacher who doesn't have a maths degree. However to have a maths teacher at GCSE who has never taught maths before is worrying.

Renarde75 · 24/07/2017 09:45

Welcome to the brave new world of the teaching crisis.

SoPassRemarkable · 24/07/2017 09:51

Was the same at dds school. She had a geography teacher teaching her physics in year 11. And six different english teachers in one year as they all kept walking out.

YoureAllABunchOfBastards · 24/07/2017 09:53

Out of a staff of less than a hundred we have lost 8 this year. None of them being replaced. Scary.

RubyMyrtle · 24/07/2017 09:54

It's the same at the school mine's just finished 6th form in. I feel for kids still there next year. Could you afford to get a maths tutor in if the new teacher doesn't seem up to it. That's what I had to do when we had 5 different teachers in 2 years.

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 24/07/2017 09:56

Only 5? 8 at ours. Neighbouring school it was in double figures (including most of slt)
It's always going to be tough for GCSE kids, but if you teach gcse, you are always going to leave one year at end of yr 10.

BringOnTheScience · 24/07/2017 12:14

The end of year letter from my DC's Head said that 10% staff change is typical each year.

BelafonteRavenclaw · 24/07/2017 12:18

Sounds pretty standard sadly. We've lost 9 teachers this year and cannot afford to replace them (budget cuts). I'm teaching 3 subjects (at GCSE level) outside my subject area next year. Terrifying times.

user1497480444 · 24/07/2017 12:22

Welcome to the brave new world of the teaching crisis.

exactly, all children are being taught by non specialists and supply - just be grateful there is an adult in the room at all, we are fast approaching the stage where there won't be.

My school lost 20 this term.

The remaining teachers have all been told to expect to teach outside their subject area next year.

Goingtobeawesome · 24/07/2017 12:22

One dc has told me a science teacher was removed from class then at the end of the lesson he returned to say he'd been sacked. Another dc tells me a teacher is awful when teaching year nine but good when teaching year tens. He swears at them a lot and another shouts a lot and says horrible things. This is meant to be one of the top schools teaching this gender. Confused.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 24/07/2017 12:32

Yet according to the government everything is fine, there is no funding or morale crisis.

user1497480444 · 24/07/2017 12:35

One dc has told me a science teacher was removed from class then at the end of the lesson he returned to say he'd been sacked.

well, this isn't true, a teacher who has just been sacked on the spot would certainly not have been returning to the classroom.

More likely he was temporary, or agency and had just been informed his contract was not being renewed.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 24/07/2017 12:40

Could the teacher have been made redundant?

Could he have returned to collect his things rather than teach?

toledanosunshie · 24/07/2017 12:44

We've had 9 leave and most of those are computing / food tech / PE and we've 13 new joiners including in modern languages, maths and science so not sure how the school is managing that one when every other school is cutting

user1497480444 · 24/07/2017 12:46

Could the teacher have been made redundant?

no, that doesn't happen on the spot, that is a long negotiation between management and unions.

Could he have returned to collect his things rather than teach?

no, they would have been collected for him.

Obviously a sacked teacher has no access to students.

user1497480444 · 24/07/2017 12:48

We've had 9 leave and most of those are computing / food tech / PE and we've 13 new joiners including in modern languages, maths and science so not sure how the school is managing that one when every other school is cutting

most likely temporary and agency staff, paid by the hour, no sick leave etc, term time only, no commitment on either side, can leave without notice.

BackforGood · 24/07/2017 12:49

5 ?

I take your 5 and raise you.

My dd (also going into Yr11) knows of 17 who are leaving.
I have to say 'only 5' is a pretty low turnover at a secondary school.

LockedOutOfMN · 24/07/2017 12:52

My school had 29 teachers leave at the end of this past term (our school goes through from 2 to 18). This is in addition to teaching assistants, support and administrative staff. The whole Chemistry department is leaving!

noblegiraffe · 24/07/2017 12:52

My school is losing a shedload more than 5!

Yes I'd be worried about a business studies teacher teaching the new maths GCSE, get a tutor if you can afford it, if not, there are many videos on line which can help.

This is the teacher recruitment and retention crisis in action. The one that the government says isn't happening.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 24/07/2017 13:18

I am just wondering if the teacher who was "sacked" was long term supply and he was told that he would not be needed again. I don't like to think that posters are knowingly lying.

Tw1nsetAndPearls · 24/07/2017 13:19

All of our NQTs apart from one are leaving teaching altogether. Not just leaving the school but leaving the profession.

leccybill · 24/07/2017 13:22

21 left when I left last year. 10 of them left teaching entirely.

5 seems completely normal. People move on for promotions, closer to home, different experience, loads of reasons.

OhOhDearling · 24/07/2017 13:25

twinset - goingtobeawesome has been around for several years, I'ld be amazed if she was lying, it's really not her style. much more likely to be a case of chinese whispers -

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