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Daughter going to local grammar school, can anyone tell me about the curriculum?

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LadyMaryofDownt0n · 03/07/2016 00:13

As title, first child going to grammar school/seminary ed & I haven't a clue what lies ahead. I know the subjects but not what's being taught exactly. I'd like to know so I can help did plan ahead.

She likes learning & i am keen for her to keep the momentum over summer.

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SoupDragon · 06/07/2016 09:03

If your child needs a pushy parent behind them, they will most likely fail at university.

Some children want to do educational things for fun and of their own volition and that is absolutely fine, as is encouraging your child and offering them opportunities. Pushing a child who does not want to do this is simply wrong.

BertrandRussell · 06/07/2016 09:37

I'm generally considered a bit of a pushy parent- but there is no way I would be scheduling 20 days school work in the summer holidays! Well, I suppose unless the child concerned was really behind and going into year 11 or year 13.

Both of my children had vaguel academic interests that they pursued by themselves if they wanted to- my only involvement was the aforementioned Summer Book thing.

Badbadbunny · 06/07/2016 10:55

If my son is doing other useful things, then I'll leave him alone, i.e. seeing his friends, family days out, etc. But if he's spending all day inside watching mindless youtube videos or playing mindless games on his xbox, then he's certainly "encouraged" to do something more educational for an hour or so. I don't think that's being pushy.

Last year he got a fairly low mark in his Maths end of year test, so he spent, maybe, 10 hours over the entire Summer doing some remedial work to improve the areas he fell down on. He also wrote an essay for a national Biology competition which maybe took another 5 hours or so. So, maybe 15 hours across 6 weeks - hardly going to ruin his life!!

This year, he got an unexpectedly low mark in his Chemistry end of year test - I guess you know what he'll be doing this Summer for the odd hour every few days!

I don't see anything wrong in remedial work or doing things that they're not going to be doing in class. But, yes, completely agree absolutely no point in doing stuff at home that they'll be doing in class in the future.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/07/2016 11:00

Richmal's DD isn't 11, Bertrand. If she genuinely likes doing this sort of thing during the summer then fine - kids are all different. However, the OP will hopefully realise that this is an outlier on the distribution of 'what kids who turn out well do in the holidays'. We're a sciency family too, and my DD has thrived on not doing formal work during the breaks, other than what has been explicitly set (OP - if you're still reading - if the GS had wanted your DD to be doing anything they'd have told you!) - until she was into gcses and now A-levels when it's self-motivated and self-organised.

suit2845321oie · 06/07/2016 11:01

I don't want my going into year 9 to do a thing this holiday. She's on her knees with exhaustion and needs a total break so that she's ready and raring to go into year 9. My middle one is going into year 7. Last year I made him do 4 papers a week, one mental maths, one comprehension, one VR and one non VR. This took about 3.5 hours a week and was only because he was sitting entrance exams in January and although he was at a prep. He also had 4 maths sessions with a tutor to consolidate some bits of the curriculum he was ropy on, again because of entrance exams. This year he will do nothing other than a bit of reading.

MaQueen · 10/07/2016 17:14

Both our DDs are at GS. They get virtually zero homework over the summer holiday, though they do get stacks during term time it must be said.

LockedOutOfMN · 10/07/2016 20:34

I'm a secondary school teacher. To a new Year 7 student, we would recommend spending the summer holidays to relax and explore, which might involve reading or researching (live or online) topics that interest them. Real life experiences, such as visiting a museum or an exciting place (city, beach, mountain, river, etc.), in any country, are great stimuli, but we do realise that parents need to work (and relax) and cannot provide a programme of intellectually valuable pursuits. Mastering something new or persevering to get better at something, such as a sport, chess, musical instrument, a handicraft, cooking, etc. or starting to learn a language, is good fun too - and often there's less time for this sort of activity once term begins.

As ever, we would recommend regular reading for pleasure, which might be novels or short stories or nonfiction books about places, people, topics, etc. Books on tape are also good (e.g. for long journeys).

For those who are very weak at Maths, some remedial work might be recommended to ensure that skills are not lost over the holiday (previous posters have suggested Maths resources).

Lastly, for the transition to secondary school, we would encourage students to start reading, watching or listening to the news and starting to discuss and form opinions about the world around them. The website "The Day" is a good one for this: theday.co.uk/

goodbyestranger · 10/07/2016 21:12

LockedOutOfMN I have had eight children start Y7 in the past fifteen years and I can honestly say that no secondary school teacher has ever given me that advice as a parent. My DC all went to the same superselective and I had no advice whatsoever other than that they should enjoy their holidays and come back in September refreshed. Nothing about stimuli at all. What sort of school do you work at? Is it an indie?

LockedOutOfMN · 10/07/2016 22:30

Goodbyestranger Yes, my school's independent. I would say around 60-80% of our incoming Year 7 students or their parents ask for recommendations of what to do over the summer to prepare academically for secondary school. So we developed those 3-4 guidelines; it's just common sense really.

goodbyestranger · 10/07/2016 22:37

I thought it might an indie be LockedOut! Well I guess all this intense stuff, however pointless, enables the parents to feel they're paying for something worthwhile. Meanwhile the state schoolers get to enjoy the summer at no cost whatsoever academically! Win win :)

LockedOutOfMN · 10/07/2016 22:47

Yes, indeed, we can never not respond to parents' or students' requests for advice or information. Our recommendations are only recommendations, though. We do emphasise relaxing above all.

goodbyestranger · 10/07/2016 22:52

Yes I can see that your school does recommend relaxing but in a very uptight way!

PerspicaciaTick · 11/07/2016 09:47

I've just remembered, the only thing new Y7s were asked to do over the summer holidays was learn to swim if they couldn't already. The school like everyone to start with basic competence in the water for safety reasons.

SoupDragon · 11/07/2016 12:05

Well I guess all this intense stuff, however pointless, enables the parents to feel they're paying for something worthwhile. Meanwhile the state schoolers get to enjoy the summer at no cost whatsoever academically!

What absolute rubbish.

DSs are at an academically selective independent secondary. We were given a reading list ( Harry Potter amongst others, I can't remember what else) and they had to read one before starting. That's it. They have never had to do one single piece of work over the holidays at all (bar the ones prior to exams where they are expected to revise).

They enjoyed the summer at no cost whatsoever academically.

SoupDragon · 11/07/2016 12:06

Shock news : Every school is different.

goodbyestranger · 11/07/2016 12:19

SoupDragon I was clearly referencing the particular and very wordy guidelines issued by LockedOut's school. There can be no doubt though that a lot of stuff which goes on at indies is to make the parents feel they're getting a good deal, when in fact a lot of it can be window dressing and not in the least advantageous academically.

goodbyestranger · 11/07/2016 12:20

I think I meant some stuff which goes on at indies, a lot of which is window dressing. Sorry, careless.

LockedOutOfMN · 11/07/2016 12:49

Just to clarify, those were my words, not the school's.

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