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Sutton, Wallington,Wilsons Test 1 Results

166 replies

sleeplessofsurrey · 25/09/2013 08:36

I suppose we will have an idea of how our ds did, but if you're like me I have no idea whether he will be 'eligible' given the numbers across the centres. Would also be interested to know if the maths really was easier than he though it would be, whether this will mean that the younger children will have an advantage with the scores standardised or does this make no difference. My ds is a spring bday. Does anyone know how many boys actually took it as apparently there were lots of girls at Greenshaw but also some boys there too? Roll on tomorrow. Hope they release the results at the same time.

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MrsSteptoe · 24/10/2013 11:13

sorry, just read my post back and realised it sounded a bit crotchety - of course, I am crotchety, but not at willemdefoe! I understand what people mean when they say in a year's time it'll all seem irrelevant, and whatever happens he'll get a school place somewhere, but if DS doesn't get an independent offer, and doesn't get any of the schools we've put on the CAF either - which happens a lot round here - we will be given an undersubscribed Westminster option, which is not good. There is no reasonable state option of which we can be confident, unfortunately - they're all very much a lottery.
Jesus, and I still haven't finished my Chekhov essay that's got to be in today. This is a really bad day.

Willemdefoeismine · 24/10/2013 11:16

Shock - I see where you're coming from....Not that I know anything about those schools, but I'm assuming they're highly undesirable.....

I possibly didn't phrase it well....but most of my friends with DCs of the same age as DS (now in Year 8) who didn't necessarily get the schools they would have liked for their DCs (such as the grammars), seem happy with the schools allocated - and more often than not, their DCs are the big fish in the little ponds, rather than the little fish in a big pond that our DS is at his super-selective.

Good luck with the indie school applications.

MrsSteptoe · 24/10/2013 11:18

I've just asked MN to delete the post in case there are any parents (or teachers!) on this thread at those schools. Don't wish to offend. Anyway, must try to crack on with essay... !

Dibbleofficer · 24/10/2013 13:07

Steptoe, why not just give SGS a shot and get the little fella to wing it with no pressure, he will likely have a great day. No practice just go for it. Then prep indies from Dec?

Willemdefoeismine · 24/10/2013 13:16

I know that the brightest boy in DS's class (and he's seriously clever at Maths) didn't pass WCGS (don't think he did Wilson's), so who's to say? I think I agree with Dibbleofficer - really, if you've got to keep going for the indies you may as well have a shot at it?

I think that generally children are quite resilient about exams at this age. I think it's also dependent upon how many of their friends and peers have sat (and passed or not as the case may be) the 11+ exams with them....

MrsSteptoe · 24/10/2013 14:09

Having thought about your comments, you know what? I think we might just give him the choice. I'm so hoping he'll be resilient about this, but unfortunately the only other kid in our orbit who did the exam is his bezzie mate, who passed both Wilson's and WCGS...
I'm hoping I can bring him back to the point where he is buoyed by the fact that he got into the top 35% of 2300 boys, probably with a brighter-than-average average, IYSWIM, rather than focusing on the fact that he ended up in the bottom 20% of WCGS candidates. Hmm
And I think I'll have to take him to McDonald's after school. Though he'll know then something's up. Wink

MrsSteptoe · 24/10/2013 14:10

You lot rock, by the way.
Thanks

Willemdefoeismine · 24/10/2013 16:59

Yay! Go for it! Nothing ventured nothing gained! I think that he passed the first round suggests that he is of the required standard. You never know what that date in November at SGS may hold....

Fingers crossed and let us know how things pan out for you!

Smile
Dibbleofficer · 24/10/2013 19:20

I really hope he goes well, if he has your enthusiasum he will.

Deetan · 24/10/2013 21:11

Hi there, Please could you kindly let me know who are the teachers teaching in Kingston and Surrey area? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I understand Barbara has retired so is there any other good teachers out there. Also what are the study material/books we can use. Please, please help me here. I’m new to this site so no one is answering my questions.
Many thanks
Sami

Deetan · 24/10/2013 21:13

Hi there, Please could you kindly let me know who are the teachers teaching in Kingston and Surrey area? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I understand Barbara has retired so is there any other good teachers out there. Also what are the study material/books we cam use. Please, please help me here. I’m new to this site so no one is answering my questions. Good luck for his second stage exam.
Many thanks
Sami

Willemdefoeismine · 25/10/2013 07:18

Sorry, can't help on tutors, Deetan, as the prep DS did was parent-given/led!

Also if you're thinking of Tiffin you might be wiser posting on a Tiffin-related thread? Or even the 11+Forum?

I think that with the schools (well the ones mentioned on this thread) veering away from the NVR/VR and towards emphasis on Maths and English, there is less of an actual need to use specific books but fine tune the skills your DC has! I think you need to get yourself to a large WH Smith and/or Waterstones and check out what's available. It's as much to do with what you and your DC can work with, as anything else!

It is quite possible that prospective candidates all singing from the same hymn sheet (or in this case study books) might end up producing almost identikit answers Grin!

Willemdefoeismine · 25/10/2013 07:20

MrsSteptoe, did the MacDonalds work as a suitable bribe? Whatever your son's decision I'm sure things will work out for him.

Hope you got your essay written by the way!

Ladymuck · 25/10/2013 08:39

The other positive for Sutton is that he has essentially passed. There won't be a "you failed" letter as such. You won't hear anything until 4 March.

Fewer boys will sit Sutton I think, in particular anyone with Olaves Wilson's, WCGS and Kent already under their belt.

Do you have any marks from the previous exams? Standardisation can have a surprising result.

Dibbleofficer · 25/10/2013 09:10

Are all other sutton parents putting Sutton GS on the CAF , considering we are pitching into a black hole? Advice welcome. D.
Also how far from the station is the school. I have not done this dummy run . Thanks

MrsSteptoe · 25/10/2013 09:20

DH and I both recall it felt like a 10-15 minute walk from the station, Dibble. It's not that close.

MrsSteptoe · 25/10/2013 09:33

Hello lovely ladies, happy to report that he picked going to the local playground to practise shooting hoops rather than the golden arches. DH thinks he's OK about having failed. I don't. He looked rather expressionless, turned and walked off into his bedroom. However, when we asked about SGS and whether he wanted to do it, we got a bit more animation: "You're trying to get out of that twenty quid, aren't you? I'm definitely doing it." (We've offered him £20 per exam, just for sitting, and he's saving for an XBox.) So there we are. I also asked him - in what I hope was a non-loaded way, because it was a genuine question - if he wanted to keep trying and risk not passing, or if he'd rather not try at all. He says he'd rather try and fail. Ah, you say that now, my son.....
Ladym, that is indeed a bonus. We can just tell him that he'll just get a place or he won't, we don't need to discuss the exam result.

Dibbleofficer · 25/10/2013 09:56

What a great little fella, you should be very proud...

gazzalw · 25/10/2013 10:05

Good for you and your DS - fingers crossed for you!

Xoanon · 25/10/2013 13:57

Have you really been paying him to take exams????

Willemdefoeismine · 25/10/2013 16:19

Good to hear that your DS has decided to go for it, MrsSteptoe! That couple of extra weeks might just make all the difference to his chances for SGS!

AliceLostInWonderland · 25/10/2013 18:23

Mrs Steptoe, your DS passed SET - that proves he is a bright lad!
3 yrs ago - A friend's DS failed Wilson and Wallington, passed SGS and got selected in the top 120!
Go for it! Another £20 towards his XBox Smile

MrsSteptoe · 26/10/2013 09:20

Absolutely, Xoanon!
Thanks for rallying cries, Defoe and Alice!

Willemdefoeismine · 26/10/2013 10:38

Wink - perhaps you should offer an increased financial incentive if he passes......Grin!

Xoanon · 26/10/2013 15:19

Do you not think that if you have to bribe your child to do the 11+ there's a serious problem? I certainly didn't have to bribe my girls to do the exam for our region's superselective. Hmm

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