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Scottish Elections who do you think will take the majority of Seats?

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Fundays12 · 12/04/2026 11:15

As a Scot I genuinely have no idea who to vote for.

I dont trust the SNP and find John Swinney completely incompetent. I wouldnt trust him to run my household budget let alone the countries so he is out for me. I cant stand labour, the tories well are not my cup of tea, lib dems and green would never get my vote.

However i dont seem to be alone in having no idea who to vote for which leaves me wondering who will take the majority of seats across Scotland. What do others think will happen?

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Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 17:23

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 16:20

Rubbish. The named person would have been a data collector. This was in the aftermath of Baby P.

People reported his abuse. Some to the police, some to SW, some to the NHS, some to a childminders association and some to Education.

None of the agencies knew about the reports to the other ones. So there was no joined up working and he was murdered.

The named person legislation was to try to get agencies to work together. So every child was to have a named person in health or education depending on their age.

Every report made to the police, NHS, SW, Education etc was to be sent to that person so that a picture of abuse could be built up

The named person collated it all and then sent it all to SW.

Then proper interventions could be made.

At no time was any young person being “interviewed” by the named person.

And, the people who didn’t want it were probably the people it was put in place to expose.

SirChenjins · 07/05/2026 17:26

SirChenjins · 07/05/2026 16:26

There will also be people who consistently support the SNP's policies, but the Supreme Court (thank goodness for this voice of sanity in Scotland) ruled on the issue and fortunately it didn't go ahead. You can read more about it here - and no amount of complaining on MN will bring it back https://no2np.org/has-the-named-person-scheme-really-been-scrapped-and-where-do-we-go-from-here/

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Again, more information about it here. Another 'great' idea from SNP consigned to the dustbin, thanks to the SC 👏

Helpmaboa · 07/05/2026 17:37

InconsequentialFerret · 07/05/2026 15:14

Who has a chance of getting in then?

Nobody because the SNP has the stranglehold on the pro-Independence vote, with the Greens as back up.

All of the rest are trying to get the same anti-Independence vote! What one of them needs to do is take independence out of the equation to dampen its importance, and also over time to entice weary pro-independence people to vote for them.

Just having the argument boiled down to YES v. NO is completely redundant. It's the SNP's reason for existing, the Conservatives are quite literally the Conservative and Unionist Party so they won't take it out of the picture.

Labour or the LIbDems have a massive opportunity to take some space that is currently unoccupied and become something decent that provides a real alternative. But they're both so doggedly wedded at an executive level to being anti-independence and pretty much nothing else that they can't conceive that stepping away from the argument is the only thing that'll reduce its clout.

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people in the country who would jump at the chance to vote positively for a party whose message was that there are more important policies and subjects to discuss and try to implement, than keeping on with the old record.

Yes. Good point.

Needspaceforlego · 07/05/2026 17:40

Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 15:29

This is what I wrote in the last para of the text that you "responded to":

  • What they have to do with the named person legislation is that if, for whatever reason, there is an opportunity to have one to one access to children, boys or girls, paedophiles will take advantage of that. The Named Person scheme would have provided access to and power over every child in Scotland.

Yes, I know what the proposed Named Person scheme was about. A very large number of adults would have been spending one-to-one time with, in total, all the children in Scotland. The more vulnerable children would doubtless have provided more opportunities for those adults to spend time with them, to discuss their problems. It is highly unlikely that nobody would have volunteered for the role for the purposes of grooming.

Being a scout leader also provides opportunities to see children on a one to one basis. Eg the young man I knew at college had gone into the communal tent for an afternoon nap, and the scout leader had followed him in and sexually abused him. Some men clearly became scout leaders for that reason.

No adult should be 121 with a Scout at any time. I hope you reported this person to the Scout Association?

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 17:48

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SirChenjins · 07/05/2026 17:53

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To whom are you referring? I was (and remain) against the legislation, I've made that clear. Are you inferring "the people " who are of that view abuse their children?

TirednessOnToast · 07/05/2026 18:11

Who is set to win the South Scotland area ?
Whi is set to win Midlothian South?
Anyone ?

Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 18:11

Needspaceforlego · 07/05/2026 17:40

No adult should be 121 with a Scout at any time. I hope you reported this person to the Scout Association?

As I said, this happened to someone I met at college, who was an adult when I met him.

Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 18:20

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 15:50

I honestly can’t believe people are this stupid. What do you think a named person is?

Polite and superior as ever I see.

  • "The Named Person was not intended to replace parents or gain parental rights.
  • The role did not itself create police-style investigative powers.
  • However, critics were concerned that the scheme encouraged greater state involvement in family life and potentially reduced parental control over sensitive conversations and information-sharing.
The Scottish Government’s GIRFEC (“Getting It Right For Every Child”) framework emphasized that children should be listened to directly and that professionals should consider the child’s views when discussing wellbeing and support. That naturally included situations where a child might speak to the Named Person without parents present, particularly in school settings or where safeguarding concerns existed."
Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 18:22

I can't possibly imagine anything going wrong there, with a scheme which involved named persons who were already busy professionals, and every child in Scotland.

Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 18:28

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"THE" people against the legislation are abusing their children. So all of the people who were against that insane piece of legislation are child abusers, are they?
You can improve communication between different agencies without setting up a system covering every single child in the country, most of whom have no involvement with those agencies.

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 18:42

Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 18:20

Polite and superior as ever I see.

  • "The Named Person was not intended to replace parents or gain parental rights.
  • The role did not itself create police-style investigative powers.
  • However, critics were concerned that the scheme encouraged greater state involvement in family life and potentially reduced parental control over sensitive conversations and information-sharing.
The Scottish Government’s GIRFEC (“Getting It Right For Every Child”) framework emphasized that children should be listened to directly and that professionals should consider the child’s views when discussing wellbeing and support. That naturally included situations where a child might speak to the Named Person without parents present, particularly in school settings or where safeguarding concerns existed."

Yep. Don’t know what any parent would be against that…

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 18:43

Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 18:22

I can't possibly imagine anything going wrong there, with a scheme which involved named persons who were already busy professionals, and every child in Scotland.

It’s quite easy to gather data, then pass it on.

SirChenjins · 07/05/2026 19:02

@Differentforgirls Could you respond to my earlier post which asked you to clarify your comments about child abusers please?

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 19:30

Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 18:28

"THE" people against the legislation are abusing their children. So all of the people who were against that insane piece of legislation are child abusers, are they?
You can improve communication between different agencies without setting up a system covering every single child in the country, most of whom have no involvement with those agencies.

No. That’s not what I meant. However, every single child in the country should be included in it. Every child has involvement with education and health. Two of the agencies. If they don’t then that in itself is a safeguarding issue.

SirChenjins · 07/05/2026 19:36

What did you mean by the people against the legislation due to “privacy of family life” are out there abusing their weans?

Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 19:52

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 18:42

Yep. Don’t know what any parent would be against that…

What you said earlier was:
"Thanks for proving that you have no clue what the named person scheme was trying to achieve. the named person would have had no access to the children involved. None.
It’s actually frightening how ill educated people are on a proposal for agencies to do joined up working so we never again have baby Ps.
The named person would have been a data collector.
Every report made to the police, NHS, SW, Education etc was to be sent to that person so that a picture of abuse could be built up
The named person collated it all and then sent it all to SW.
Then proper interventions could be made."

That's VERY different from how the BBC has described the Named Person role:
"The government's proposal was to appoint a "named person" who would monitor the wellbeing of each and every child in Scotland, from birth to the age of 18.
The intention was for this person to be a single point of contact if a child or their parents wanted information, support or advice, and for other services if they had concerns about the child's wellbeing."

This confirms what ChatGpt has said - the Named Person would absolutely have had the opportunity to contact and to meet with children on a one to one basis. And that person would have been in possession of sensitive confidential information about children in some cases. For instance, any concerns raised by anyone about possible abuse, about underage sex, about crimes committed by the child, about sexuality or gender issues, and personal information on issues being experienced by the parents which might have an impact on the child.

Remember that we are talking about a Named Person for every single child in Scotland, from birth to age 18, so a very large number of Named Persons would have been needed - there would have been a big recruitment drive and things would have been rushed and compromises would have been made. Bad actors would inevitably have volunteered for the job, and would have been in an ideal position to groom children, using blackmail (based on the confidential information they would have had on the child) to obtain sexual compliance.

Sturmundcalm · 07/05/2026 20:07

poodlemum01 · 07/05/2026 16:44

exit polls tend to come out after the polls close so back of 10 maybe?

I don't think there is an exit poll for the election this year...

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 20:08

Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 19:52

What you said earlier was:
"Thanks for proving that you have no clue what the named person scheme was trying to achieve. the named person would have had no access to the children involved. None.
It’s actually frightening how ill educated people are on a proposal for agencies to do joined up working so we never again have baby Ps.
The named person would have been a data collector.
Every report made to the police, NHS, SW, Education etc was to be sent to that person so that a picture of abuse could be built up
The named person collated it all and then sent it all to SW.
Then proper interventions could be made."

That's VERY different from how the BBC has described the Named Person role:
"The government's proposal was to appoint a "named person" who would monitor the wellbeing of each and every child in Scotland, from birth to the age of 18.
The intention was for this person to be a single point of contact if a child or their parents wanted information, support or advice, and for other services if they had concerns about the child's wellbeing."

This confirms what ChatGpt has said - the Named Person would absolutely have had the opportunity to contact and to meet with children on a one to one basis. And that person would have been in possession of sensitive confidential information about children in some cases. For instance, any concerns raised by anyone about possible abuse, about underage sex, about crimes committed by the child, about sexuality or gender issues, and personal information on issues being experienced by the parents which might have an impact on the child.

Remember that we are talking about a Named Person for every single child in Scotland, from birth to age 18, so a very large number of Named Persons would have been needed - there would have been a big recruitment drive and things would have been rushed and compromises would have been made. Bad actors would inevitably have volunteered for the job, and would have been in an ideal position to groom children, using blackmail (based on the confidential information they would have had on the child) to obtain sexual compliance.

Still no clue I see. I helped set it up.

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 20:09

Sturmundcalm · 07/05/2026 20:07

I don't think there is an exit poll for the election this year...

Any idea why?

Sturmundcalm · 07/05/2026 20:10

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 20:09

Any idea why?

I think someone (like a media outlet) needs to pay for it and nobody has?

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 20:15

Sturmundcalm · 07/05/2026 20:10

I think someone (like a media outlet) needs to pay for it and nobody has?

Ah ok. Thank you.

Igneococcus · 07/05/2026 20:16

Sturmundcalm · 07/05/2026 20:07

I don't think there is an exit poll for the election this year...

I did an exit poll for Norstat online about two hours ago. I hadn't actually voted at that point yet ("not voted yet but will vote" was an option to tick, I assume "not going to vote" would have screened me out) but have voted since. I was sent an invitation by email for it. The survey asked for my postcode so I got the list of candidates for my region and list options on another page.

YellingAway · 07/05/2026 20:24

Was so depressing trying to decide who to vote for as quite frankly none of them deserved my vote.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 07/05/2026 20:29

Differentforgirls · 07/05/2026 20:08

Still no clue I see. I helped set it up.

Says it all 🤣.