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Mansion tax concerns

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Bilberrybeaut · 12/01/2026 14:46

The Greens are proposing a mansion tax in the budget, with a rumoured proposed value of ‘mansion’ of £1m. I’m really concerned that this might happen. If it does it would be the final straw for us. We earn well and already pay hundreds of pounds more EACH MONTH in income tax than we would if we lived in England. Our stamp duty was tens of thousands more. A truly insane amount of money. I am taxed so highly that my marginal tax rate is 67% and yet the Greens think I’m not paying enough tax. How much is enough???

If they want to squeeze even more tax out of us we’ll leave. You cannot keep coming back to the same people with the begging bowl. It has got to the stage when they are taking the piss. We’ll go to England and be hundreds of £ better off every month.

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Meeplemakeglasgow · 13/01/2026 13:47

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/01/2026 13:19

Not in my opinion.

Different parts of the UK have drastically different public service needs. It's perfectly reasonable that Devolved parliaments have some leeway in choosing how to raise part of their own budgets.

Agreed, I think it’s more likely that that Westminster will eventually raise taxes to match Holyrood than not though.

FerrisWheelsandLilacs · 13/01/2026 13:51

Whattodo541289 · 12/01/2026 21:29

@funnyorca the tories have said they will reverse the VAT.

@whyihatebaylissandharding totally agree. 3 people in my previous office moved to berwick upon tweed - lower stamp duty/lbtt when purchasing, lower income tax etc and they get the train to edinburgh once a week. Not poor people but equally not falling into the bracket op is in. This is affecting more than those at the very very top. People need to wake up.

My partner has just been told he will be getting a £12k annual bonus - £7k will go in tax if he doesnt salary sacrifice it. Absolutely ridiculous - where's the incentive.

I’m getting a £24k bonus and likely see £10k of it. I’m in England, but accepting that I earn enough that I can afford to pay that much tax.

Bilberrybeaut · 13/01/2026 14:14

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/01/2026 13:19

Not in my opinion.

Different parts of the UK have drastically different public service needs. It's perfectly reasonable that Devolved parliaments have some leeway in choosing how to raise part of their own budgets.

The difference between our public service needs and England’s seem to be we have more people completely unwilling to get a job. The SNP chucks money at them, they vote for the SNP despite the SNP being rammed to the hilt with idiots. And it rolls over year after year after year. Groundhog Day. It’s just so tedious.

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77Fee · 13/01/2026 14:30

There it is. New council tax bands for properties valued over £1m. Two new bands I think she said.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/01/2026 14:34

Bilberrybeaut · 13/01/2026 14:14

The difference between our public service needs and England’s seem to be we have more people completely unwilling to get a job. The SNP chucks money at them, they vote for the SNP despite the SNP being rammed to the hilt with idiots. And it rolls over year after year after year. Groundhog Day. It’s just so tedious.

Yeah, things like having 3/4s of your population crammed into the Central Belt, and desolate places with tiny communities miles from anywhere who still need roads, refuse collection, water, electricity, gas, health provision, education, and so on have absolutely nothing to do with it, it's all about benefit scroungers. 🙄

The most bizarre part of this narrative is that "the SNP" pander to these people in return for political support. The disadvantaged and deprived are pretty much the very demographic that is least likely to take an active interest in politics and get off their arse to vote, yet supposedly this is the very thing keeping the SNP in government in Scotland. 😂

kelsaecobbles · 13/01/2026 14:40

Since the unemployment rate is if anything lower in Scotland than England the OP seems to be struggling to separate fact from fiction

DoveTurtle · 13/01/2026 15:17

Bless

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/01/2026 15:38

Also a slight problem with this theory is the fact that unemployment benefits, the ones the OP is claiming are bankrupting the country and being used as bribes by the Scottish Government, are still centrally controlled by Westminster in any case.

Bilberrybeaut · 13/01/2026 15:47

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/01/2026 15:38

Also a slight problem with this theory is the fact that unemployment benefits, the ones the OP is claiming are bankrupting the country and being used as bribes by the Scottish Government, are still centrally controlled by Westminster in any case.

Can’t afford to look after your child cause you spend so much on fags and booze - we’ll give you extra. Can’t be bothered to go through a rigorous disability assessment? We’ll just rubber stamp
your application. The welfare budget is soaring in Scotland. I see Shona has failed to address this, yet again.

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kelsaecobbles · 13/01/2026 15:50

The welfare budget is soaring across the UK

i love your cheap stereotypes though

really if you are trying to stir up discontent you could be a bit more subtle and erm../ accurate

Musicaltheatremum · 13/01/2026 16:00

WhyIhatebaylissandharding · 12/01/2026 20:31

Reported this week close to 800 civil servants, quango employees, Scottish executives, health board officials - all living south of the border avoiding Scottish income tax.

Completely agree tax differential vs England is too high. I’d like to move house lbtt means we won’t.

Usung Rightmove - Edinburgh plus 15 miles there are 88 properties greater than +£1m.

Plenty of people now commuting from South of the Border for the few days a week they need to be in the office.

Edited

Every property in our street is just over £1m we are south Edinburgh. Lots of properties round about at that level. They might not be for sale but that's a lot of taxable properties. We plan to downsize in the next few years and I can give that money to my children who struggle to afford anything.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/01/2026 16:06

Bilberrybeaut · 13/01/2026 15:47

Can’t afford to look after your child cause you spend so much on fags and booze - we’ll give you extra. Can’t be bothered to go through a rigorous disability assessment? We’ll just rubber stamp
your application. The welfare budget is soaring in Scotland. I see Shona has failed to address this, yet again.

Yet more risible tripe 😂

The idea the public can just declare they "can't be bothered" with DWP assessment...

The welfare budget is soaring in Scotland

Funnily enough, this is the case across the UK, but you seem to be unconcerned with why the UK's population is ill, unfit, and increasingly so, but happy to assert opting to not leave the needy in absolute poverty is the reason why you pay 35k more when purchasing a £1million home.

You're really tugging at the heartstrings here.

Bilberrybeaut · 13/01/2026 16:09

Musicaltheatremum · 13/01/2026 16:00

Every property in our street is just over £1m we are south Edinburgh. Lots of properties round about at that level. They might not be for sale but that's a lot of taxable properties. We plan to downsize in the next few years and I can give that money to my children who struggle to afford anything.

That’s what we’ll do. I’m so sick of working my arse off and facing tax at every turn. It’s just not a good way to live. We’ll sell the house, move to the country, take early retirement with the profits from downsizing. In what way is this country incentivising people to do well in life?

In our area it’s mainly pensioners and they’ll be fine. They’re can easily afford it. They’re mainly loaded from final salary pensions. It’s the workers this affects. You’d have thought the Scottish government would want to incentivise people to keep working?

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AgnesMcDoo · 13/01/2026 16:11

Realistically how many properties in Scotland are worth more than £1m.

not many.

Wintrymix · 13/01/2026 16:14

And, well, even fewer after this as it’ll certainly compress prices around that level.

at the end of the day, a high tax, poor services society is what we’ve got and some people will re-evaluate, as people do with significant tax changes. Over the years the SNP have substantially diverged taxes and will keep doing so.

Bilberrybeaut · 13/01/2026 16:20

Wintrymix · 13/01/2026 16:14

And, well, even fewer after this as it’ll certainly compress prices around that level.

at the end of the day, a high tax, poor services society is what we’ve got and some people will re-evaluate, as people do with significant tax changes. Over the years the SNP have substantially diverged taxes and will keep doing so.

If they said that x% of tax is what we think is a fair amount to charge, you could plan your life around that and decide if you were happy contributing that for the service on offer. It just seems that every time they’re short of a bit of cash it’s the same people that are looking to to pay for it. It’s a bit more every year. Where will it end? How much is enough?

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Christmaspuddingclub · 13/01/2026 16:23

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 12/01/2026 18:25

I can’t think of anywhere in Scotland where it is necessary to spend £1m+ to get a nice family home in a decent area.

A quick look on ESPC suggest only 4 properties available over a million in Edinburgh and Lothians. All 5 plus bedrooms, multiple public rooms, and in posh bits of Edinburgh and East Lothian.

Where will you move your job and family to in England, and what are property prices like there? And can you afford £30k per child on tuition fees, or will you be passing that ‘saving’ on to them?

The £600/month saved in tax over childhood would cover a whole lot of tuition fees!

kelsaecobbles · 13/01/2026 16:27

Well you can’t ask those who don’t have any money to pay can you?

Wintrymix · 13/01/2026 16:29

Agree @Bilberrybeaut that’s the question isn’t it? At least there is time to consider with an April 2028 introduction, better than some recent tax changes!

Bilberrybeaut · 13/01/2026 16:31

Christmaspuddingclub · 13/01/2026 16:23

The £600/month saved in tax over childhood would cover a whole lot of tuition fees!

Yes indeed. I don’t think we’d work anymore wherever we go. I just don’t think it pays. Work hard and the tax rate is astronomical. Where’s the incentive in burning ourselves out? We’re lucky in that we’re happy to live cheaply, so I think early retirement beckons. Quite the rat race.

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Bilberrybeaut · 13/01/2026 16:31

kelsaecobbles · 13/01/2026 16:27

Well you can’t ask those who don’t have any money to pay can you?

How about reducing spending? Is this EVER considered?

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AgnesMcDoo · 13/01/2026 16:32

It’s a shit budget. Mansion tax, private jet tax etc. will affect almost no one and will generate diddly squat. just headline grabbing gimmicks

RhannionKPSS · 13/01/2026 16:32

Its a lousy budget as ever from SNP , carrots for the unthinking fools who continue to vote for a corrupt, incompetent, misogynistic and venal party

Wintrymix · 13/01/2026 16:33

You never know, Scotland has tonnes of acres owned by billionaires/big companies, maybe that private jet tax will be just the ticket 😂

AgnesMcDoo · 13/01/2026 16:34

Bilberrybeaut · 13/01/2026 16:31

How about reducing spending? Is this EVER considered?

Im not defending the SNP cause they are shit but nearly every single part of govt and local govt is delivering massive cuts
to spending. Which is why most of our services are in the toilet.

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