Charing Cross Glasgow - how to pronounce?

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Help decide a bet…is it charr-ing or chair-ing cross?
Thanks!

' chair ' ing

so maybe it is an age thing

How would you all pronounce The Forge?

Is it For-j, or Fore-j?

Fore/four - j

Ah, ok, I didn’t realise the emphasis was on the 2nd syllable. (The wrong English pronunciation would be Cathcart!)
Isn’t there a difference between the ‘a’ in cat, and cart or scarf?

I would also say cha/ ring..rhyming with bar.
Interestingly though, a previous poster said her grandmother would say chairing.
I think older Scots accents definitely had different pronunciations and a commonality has now been reached through time.
I'm thinking of the village Cardross in my local area.
My Gran and Aunt and Uncles (and locals ) would call it CORdross. Short O and emphasis on Cor.
This is rarely/ never heard now. Though you'll hear it pronounced with different emphasis.
CARdross
CarDROSS
I think depending on which side of the hill you're on.👀😁

Cha-ring

dont say chair unless you want the piss taken out of you 🤣

Another Glaswegian here. I'm in my sixties and have always called it "Chair" -ing Cross.

I live in Glasgow and say Charr-ing, I got a train home from there yesterday and the Scotrail announcements say Charr-ing too.

My mum, who was a student in Glasgow in the 60s, says Chair-ing.

I accept I may be wrong🤣. I’ve lived in Glasgow for many years and always said chair- ing. But I’m from the East of Scotland originally so that’s my excuse

Edinburgh born/based, went to uni in Glasgow. This is the way I pronounce it

Quoted not right lol Charing like barring - cha-ring

I was a student in Glasgow late 80s and it was chair-ing cross. But nowadays most people pronounce it the way they’d say the London version unless they’re old Glaswegians

FWIW it should probably be chair-ing because when adding -ing, it would be normal to double the -r in spelling to give an ‘a’ sound

So, bar = barring
bare = baring

star = starring
stare = staring

car = carring (not a real word but illustrative)
care = caring

First I didn’t know Glasgow had a Charing Cross.

and second I’m still baffled on how to say it.

like the London one I read it and automatically say ch ah ring cross. But obviously smoother said.

when yous are writing charr ring cross. Are you saying it like haar as in the haar is proper thick today and like you’re charring the sausages on the barbecue.

as for Harrogate and bar sounding the same, they really don’t. Harrogate is hah ruh gut to me and bar is b r, like how kids say the letter b and how adults say r.

i could be pronouncing everything proper incorrectly though.

I would say cardross like curdross or cordross sort of like a mixture.

i am not in the category of older and I’m also in the complete other direction to Glasgow, diagonally upwards to the right by quite a way. Not that my accent is particularly Doric, there’s rather a lot of Inverness, Skye etc in there as well.

Ok so there is some merit in the “chair” version…my v posh Glaswegian pal always insists it is “chair” but accepts London version as cha.
I kind of like chair but I’m going to claim a win in the bet if the official announcements say “cha”

My Granny (Glaswegian) always said Chairing. She died in 1996 so obviously was an older pronunciation. The derivation of the London name is from “Chere Reine” and so it makes sense that it was Chairing in the past.*From the crosses which were built to commemorate Queen Eleanor’s passage to London I think.

*or maybe not… I just looked it up and it seems that is possibly a controversial idea and not the same in Glasgow anyway. But interesting I thought !

you're all wrong it’s clearly Charn Cross 🤣

My gran and her sisters called it chairing cross but my mother felt it common and called it Charing Cross. My elocution teacher called it chairing cross but she was the same age range as my gran. I assume it's one of those words that's pronunciation has evolved over the past few decades into something else.
I flit between both to be honest

My Glaswegian husband says Chair-ring. When we lived in London it drove me mad that he pronounced the London Charing cross like that as well. He never learned 🙄

He is 💯 not posh. Think this thread proves there is no definitive answer - he was born and lived there til mid 20s so saying it is "definitely not Chairing" is not true. My MIL from generations of Springburn folk also says it as above.

@123dogdog

as for Harrogate and bar sounding the same, they really don’t. Harrogate is hah ruh gut to me and bar is b r, like how kids say the letter b and how adults say r.

They really do, in Scotland. This is Scotsnet after all.

The scotrail woman def says char as in bar!

What's the difference.
I cannot say those two any different from each other??

Or are you meant to get an extra sound in ?
Bit like film and fil um. ??
Or something