Charing Cross Glasgow - how to pronounce?

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Help decide a bet…is it charr-ing or chair-ing cross?
Thanks!

But they are both 'ah' not 'ay' as you would hear if it was 'chairing cross'

They’re three different sounds to me - aaah, a (as in apple) and air

@FindusMakesPancakes

How are you making Harrogate sound like bar?

It isn't Haarrogate. It's a short a sound.

Bar isn't Baar either

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No.

I think this might have been right at some point.

my late grandmother was Glaswegian and often called it. ‘Chairing cross’ - she’d be about 130 now, so it’s possible that the pronunciation has changed over time

I think it’s a tomato / tomayto argument

Seconded.

The long a sound doesn’t exist in Scottish accents

aunt and ant sound exactly the same in Scottish accents.

Bar that you drink in or first syllable of Harrogate sound the same, surely?

No. Harrogate has short a sound - like in hat. Or bath if you're northern.

So does bar though

Bar is close to baar in my southern English received pronunciation accent!
Or bahr.
But never Haarrogate or Hahrrogate. It's an a. Like cat not cart. Bat not bart.
I am rubbish at trying to write words the way they sound!

So how would MartinCompton say it if he was in Line of Duty

To a non-Scot would it be a bit like Churring cross - in between a short and long a?

@FindusMakesPancakes

I'm in Scotland, so all of those examples have a short a

I went to uni in Glasgow. Trying to dredge through my memory banks and understand here!

Are you from Glasgow?

Like Charr’s Irn Bru

Charing Cross London is supposed to be pronounced Chair-ing. Although I say Char-ring too.

Charing Cross London is supposed to be pronounced Chair-ing.

Is it? Why do no official announcements say that?

Doesn’t the Glaswegian accent have a longer ‘a’ when it’s followed by an ‘r’, though? Like in Cathcart.

As do all the announcements on trains / at stations, so I think the pronunciation is definitely now “cha - ring”, even if it was different in the past.

They’re still insisting on the traditional pronunciation of Marylebone for now, although I suspect that may change at some point

I'm from Glasgow and always heard it as charring until I heard Sally Magnusson say chairing on Reporting Scotland earlier. It really made me double take (and rewind the TV) as it's the first time I'd ever heard someone say it like that.

I’m Glaswegian. It’s Char-ing.

Any other answers should be ignored and the posters should be hunted and sent to live in Cumbernauld as punishment. 😉

This with bells on

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The second a there is short. It's just that the first a is even shorter. Almost "C'thcart"

Now that's just savage!