To want to move to England because of Scottish tax.

[Nogg]

Is anyone else thinking of moving to England because of tax. I’m a single parent and I am paying 7k extra tax a year. The place I live is run down. I really want to move but the only issue kids settled in ( failing) Scottish education system. I wonder if anything will change at next election? Hate SNP and what they have done to Scotland.

If OP is paying 7k more tax in Scotland, she is not going to benefitting from the extra ‘free’ stuff. She is likely to be covering the cost of her stuff as well as subsidising other people’s ‘free’ stuff.

Yip she pays more - that's called society , civilisation , duty, humanity , love

those lucky to have help those that don't

Society tends to benefit everyone - OP will benefit because it's nicer not to have to deal mentally with childen dying at your feet from starvation , and it seems to be cheaper to have a nation health service and an organised bin service than paying for each service as a private arrangement but all op sees is .. well l it could be another planet destroying flight she can't take to get away from the bad weather her ilk have caused

LOL 😂 😂😂

Cheerio then.

She already pays more, and did under the old tax levels. No one is disputing that's fair and normal.

The question is whether it's sensible to have Scotland diverge so much from England. And Ireland, as it happens.

If you care about how much revenue we raise and what works, rather than just soaking the rich, we ought to think very carefully about things like this.

That’s as may be but it isn’t free! Look up how much of your tax currently goes on servicing the national debt.

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.“

You must be ill a LOT if you spend that amount on prescriptions a year. We also have prepayment prescriptions in England so people who do get a lot of prescriptions have a cheaper option

The problem with capitalism is that you stop caring about other people unless it benefits your image. 🫢

society goes two ways too though. Those who are capable of working ought to be working.

Also I am single parent no child help or benefits. Why should my children be penalised and money given to tax credits for extra kids if the SNP remove the child benefit cap.

also not been abroad in 9 years !

Also I don’t trust the SNP going forward. If they are voted in again I think will move. Even if only to Northumberland.

I doubt the free uni tuition will be available long term.
Everything will probably be means tested. (apparently only people from deprived postcodes got offered a place to study law at Edinburgh last year). The whole system is awful.

Depending on the age of your child, I’d stay in Scotland. Free university education is worth its weight in gold.

yer a heathen hen, but even worse, a tory!!!

Inglund will welcome ye wi' open airms 😆

Seriously though@Nogg, if you feel your quality of life will improve, then do move.

I feel your pain, I wouldn't mind if the extra tax was used responsibly, e.g NHS, Social Care Sector (pay carers a bloody decent wage fgs) but all we're doing is funding rich pensioners with a winter heating allowance, bus pass, global free prescriptions, free University etc.

We have hardly any Social housing stock, single people in 3 bedroom council houses don't have to worry about bedroom tax as so will never consider moving to a one bedroom.

I hoping to move to either Northumberland or Yorkshire eventually 😀.

You must be in the other side of South Scotland to me. I'm in the 'every other closed shop is a giant cannabis farm side'. 🫣

If both parents pay an extra £1000 a year in tax over 20 years that's written off the free tuition.
It really is all swings and roundabouts, you pay more to the Gov and they give you it back in kind.
It's not free

Are you sure? DS needed urgent root canal treatment as a student. Not an NHS dentist in sight. It cost me two thousand pounds!!!

@Nogg @BerriesCones I'm not sure. I was thinking of moving to Scotland for free elderly care, no student tuition fees, free prescriptions for all, free dental care til 26, heating benefit for all pensioners etc. Plus more money is going to be pumped into education/ I can assure you that elderly care is not free. free students tuition is becoming scarcer because unis need the funds so tend to have foreign students instead and it is only on rubbish courses/ heating benefit is NOT available for all pensioners at all, only those on certain benefits. as for education as well as the scottish nhs, that has been short changed for more than 10 years. less and less money than ever so more money being pumped in will not ever bring it up to the standard it was previously/ all those "free" you talk about are not ever free. the money has come from extra taxes, nhs reallocation of funds, education reallocatio of funds, the roads budget (this is practically non extistent now) the councils receiving less and less so council services are cut right left and centre, council staff being laid off, facilities being closed down, council tax rises. you actually dont know the half of it!! many of the increases ie for children have actually come from westminster because sturgeon moaned so much. didnt matter that she was the one being so wasteful with government money that it has nearly bankrupted scotland¬¬ I am sure Nogg will agree with most if not all of this. sadly, the snp appear to be one of the most financially corrupt parties going!

Why do people gripe at OP when there are many very wealthy people in Scotland who pay a tiny bit of tax. I hate the way all governments make us bicker among ourselves at the lower end of the scale. The public purse is empty and yet billionaires have never been so numerous.

OP, not sure what sort of job you have but I’d consider Malta or Madeira. Both lower tax, much sunnier and better quality of life!

If you can’t beat them (and it seems like no government wants to introduce a sorely needed wealth tax) why not join them?

Anders Holch Povlsen: £6.73 billion
Glenn Gordon and family: £5.619 billion
Sir Ian Wood and family: £1.911 billion
Mahdi Al-Tajir: £1.641 billion
Lady Philomena Clark and family: £1.581 billion
Sandy and James Easdale: £1.45 billion
The Thomson family: £1.367 billion
JK Rowling: £945 million
Sir Brian Souter and Dame Ann Gloag: £815 million
Lord Laidlaw: £741 million
Sir Tom Hunter: £700 million (estimated)
Jim McColl: £500 million (estimated)
Duncan Bannatyne: £300 million (estimated)
Ann Budge: £200 million (estimated)
Chris van der Kuyl: £150 million (estimated)
Brian Souter: £100 million (estimated)
Dame Ann Gloag: £100 million (estimated)
The Bruce and Iain Anderson family: £100 million (estimated)
The Bruce Jones family: £100 million (estimated)
Douglas and Iain Anderson: £100 million (estimated)

Why does no one complain about what Anders Holch Povlsen, the top billionaire in Scotland owns? And earns every year? But everyone can be bitter and twisted at the OP for trying to save £7k?

She or her dc might benefit from the free elderly care if it means they can inherit rather than the inheritance being used to fund it.

Tuition is not only free on 'rubbish courses'!

I have two excellent degrees and haven't paid a penny. In England I'd be paying a huge debt back for them.

Neither English nor international students take up places from Scottish students. It’s the funding cuts from the Scottish government that have made it harder to get in. The two things are separate. The only way many universities can survive is by recruiting RUK and international students. My department makes a loss on every Scottish student we accept.

You want to see 'run down', move to England..speaking as someone who moved the other way 18 mts ago. We felt that values in Scotland more matched our own..kinder, gentler, more thought for those less well off who dont have the opportunities to reach 200k salary. If you go, remember, the grass may appear greener from a distance but aint like that up close

agree @PlopSofa always always a debate about paye income and not wealth.

the tax system is overly complex, the rUK is pretty bad and the SNP made it worse, and disincentivising earnings is a problem, underemployment all over the UK. I wish they’d get some reforming ideas.

that said, I’m no SNP fan and I don’t think they’ve done enough on it but they’re doing better on child poverty than labour. It’s a shame that independence would reverse those gains.