All the foods the Scottish Government plan to make more expensive

[DinnaeFashYersel]

The SNP are about to wage war on the popadom.

Poverty is rampant, NHS and education are in crisis but our government are concentrating on increasing the price of porridge.

In addition the ban on promotions of food our great leaders deem unhealthy they are also going to restrict practices in restaurants

No more ice cream factory puddings for your kids at Pizza Hut or complimentary prawn crackers with your Chinese

In hotels you can still have a buffet breakfast and eat as many sausages and eggs as you like but only one pastry each.

I was not recommending them 😂 and I totally believe you (though they look better than those my mother in law has). Just an example of the large market for similar meals that elderly people rely on.

I tried one once as we'd got some for my mum but because they are "nutritionally balanced" and adhere to recommendations regarding added salt etc it tasted really bland and not very tasty at all😰

Although yes they looked good

They clearly lack the ability to research with the inclusion of breakfast cereals (never-ending the rest of it!!!) One of the reasons the UK has less childhood deficiency issues is because breakfast cereal is fortified and they have also started adding vit D to it as well!

I mean talk about short sighted let's tackle health by making things more expensive.......3 years time why are we having childhood issues!

It is the general election year so I am not suprised...

Just to be pedantic, the price of chocolate has skyrocketed, recently, and those 4 packs of Mars bars are already closer to £2. If that's not improved people's diets then these measures definitely won't.

I have no idea to be honest. I'm diabetic and don't eat sugar (and low carb) so only buy 90% dark chocolate, the last time I bought mars bars or the like they were always on offer at about a £ a pack.

I don't think I'm the target audience but will still be caught up in it no doubt as I do eat full fat food as I need the calories.

I live with other people though who don't eat the same as me and while in general we eat a pretty decent diet (as we can afford to) that doesn't mean to say that adult DS who does a physical job and works shifts should be hammered for wanting to have a pizza or other ready meal from the supermarket as part of his diet.

As another poster pointed out surely there are more pressing matters for them to be dealing with? In my area social care is shocking, 18 months - 2 years for a care at home package, long waiting lists for care home beds as they keep being closed, our health board has announced an emergency regarding how over spent they are, the major transport route for wagons and commuters is a death trap that desperately needs turned into a dual carriageway instead of tiny stretches where all the slow moving vehicles over take the other slow moving vehicles and no body gets anywhere but no they are too concerned with this and blowing money on consultations to turn rural towns and villages into 20 minute cities that will never work they need gone

There’s nothing wrong with butter and sugar! There’s only a problem when you eat too much sugar .

There’s no evidence that butter is bad for you.

This is a proposal from the Scottish government. There are no elections to Holyrood this year. The last one was 2021, so the next one is due in 2026. The general election to Westminster won't affect this, except in the sense that SNP policies and reputation in one assembly may affect its support in another.

They're not telling you you can't eat any of these things. They're proposing making it so that certain items can't be the subject of certain promotional offers. They're still on the market, so you can still buy and eat them. Perhaps you just won't get them in a multi-buy deal.

There was an interesting story published at the weekend about the widening health gaps between the under 5s in Scotland and England. Things are worse in England due to lack of proper cohesive heath visitor care, Immunisation take up and increased levels of poverty (maybe because of lack of the extra child benefits that is available in Scotland). If this isn’t resolved the I think the health of children in England is in real trouble.

Look at Denmark and the aggressive policies towards junk foods in improving child health. Some action needs to be taken. Changing how food is sold and marketed is one step in the process, inaction really isn’t acceptable.

Governments had different departments so can focus on lots of different issues at the same time. Why would you expect them to focus on just one thing? Your post suggests that you live in a rural area. Improving social care is difficult to fix if you can’t recruit staff. This links into ensuring affordable housing is available and other infrastructures. Scotland has suffered from decades if not centuries of resistance to improving infrastructure for a whole host of reasons. Since devolution this has improved,but that’s going to take decades to resolve no matter who is in power.

😂 you might want to look at HV stats for Scotland before stating its better here!

Haven't seen my HV since DS2 was 6 months old.....Aberdeen City has such a chronic shortage that they aren't seen between 3 months and 18 months unless a issue.

Whilst some breakfast cereals is junk and sugary this will include all breakfast cereals so shredded wheat, wheatabix style things, bran flakes, plain corn flakes and plain shreddies type. All of which are low sugar and a good breakfast option for kids which keeps them full. Oh alongside porridge too!

Whilst some breakfast cereals is junk and sugary this will include all breakfast cereals so shredded wheat, wheatabix style things, bran flakes, plain corn flakes and plain shreddies type. All of which are low sugar and a good breakfast option for kids which keeps them full. Oh alongside porridge too!

No. Per para. 34 of the consultation paper, "Within targeted food categories, we propose that promotions restrictions will only apply to pre-packed[8] food and drink products that are high in fat, sugar or salt (HFSS) as defined by the 2004/05 nutrient profiling[9] model (NPM)."

So, the category of breakfast cereal is a targeted food category. (As opposed to say, meat, which is not a targeted food category at all.) Within an identified targeted food categories, some, but not all, products will be subject to promotions restrictions. The proposed restrictions cover pre-packed food high in fat, sugar or salt.

So if a food item falls within a targeted food category (like plain oats do within the breakfast cereal categories), but does not meet the criteria for being subject to these restrictions (because it is not high in fat, sugar or salt), then it will not be subject to these restrictions, should they be adopted.

I didn’t state the HV stats were better, a study comparing health outcomes between Scotland and Wales found that to be the case.

If you were that hard up you wouldn’t be buying lunch from a supermarket meal deal you’d be making it at home and taking it with you as this is far cheaper!

Must live near me then. I don't do this - plenty of food and choice where I live. But porridge........WTAF. Porridge is sacrosanct.

Or a supermarket meal deal might be the one treat you afford yourself, as it can be quite isolating to never, ever be able to participate in consumer culture, given that is how our society operates, and always have to make a packed lunch or coffee flask before you go anywhere.

In my annual summary thing from Tesco of what I bought last year, it told me that I bought three meal deals, consisting of the falafel and rice salad box, a graze box and Lipton ice tea (the last maybe being the most unhealthy choice). On these three meal deals, I saved £6.39. If that had not been a meal deal, I would have made do with my bottle of water from home and not bought a graze box, just the salad box. This might have made a dent in the relentless consumer capitalism we are surrounded by, but on the other hand, maybe I would have just bought a cheaper chocolate bar instead because on these three days, for whatever reason, I already decided I was not making my own lunch.

Not sure entirely what point I am making here. Even if I was having that choice of meal deal every week, I am not sure it would make or break my health outcomes. It would depend on what else I was eating or doing around it. Reflecting on it, one thing which has made a notable difference to my waistline and my bank balance has been ditching the lattes on my way to work.

But the supermarket meal deal is a sort of 'packed lunch' bought externally from a supermarket, rather than from home. I don't see how not buying that is isolating. I agree that there is a social element in eating food outside the home, but that to me pertains only to going out to a cafe or a restaurant. In that sense, recusing yourself from going to all such places can be isolating, since they're places where people go to socialise. But I don't see where something similar would operate over a meal deal, since wherever you can eat a packaged sandwich from Tesco, you can also eat your own meal from home.

If these multiple Govt departments focused on and subsequently achieved success then that would be fantastic. Their record so far has been abysmal.

The study states a percentage increase but it also states that since 2015 families receive 11 home visits on the pathway.... I have 2 DSs one is 5 the other is 2 and in my area that's simply not happening. DS2 has had 3 to date, DS1 had more at 5 due to feeding issues.

The SNP take credit whilst not acknowdging this simply isn't happening in some areas.
I certainly don't blame my HVs for this they have insane numbers to deal with and completely understaffed. Aberdeen City is even worse.

You don't make families healthier by making life harder you make families healthier by investment in community groups, cookery classes, funding fruit and veg not by making costs harder when cereal or crumpets is a cheaper way to give children a breakfast in the first place.

I feel like this too. I do not see anyone to vote for.

Not ever being able to afford a shop bought lunch or a take out coffee is isolating and exhausting if you are the sole responsible person for cooking and preparing food all the time. Plus, taking DC out for a hike or meeting a friend for a walk in the park, then it’s actually easier and more affordable to actually buy a meal deal and do that than go to a restaurant or even a cafe. Pizza Hut is easily £30 for me and two DC for lunch. Meal deals for me and two DC is half that and no preparation time.

Clearly, it’s not a hill I am going to die on, as I am not a frequent buyer of meal deals, but I do think there is a social (and mental health) aspect to being able to not have to make packed lunches each and every time you want to take DC out for a day or meet a friend for a hike or whatever. But I say that as a single parent of many, many years and I take the breaks when I can get them!

I agree@DaffodilsAlready A meal deal is an affordable convenience that most people enjoy from time to time. Packed lunches have to be purchased and planned in advance, but life isn’t always predictable - and so for those occasions having the option to spend a few quid on a meal deal is very welcome.