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Marelle Sturrock

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MrsMuddle · 27/04/2023 09:04

I’m struggling to come to terms with this awful news. I knew Marelle and David through friends, although I only met them a few times. Those poor children she taught will be scared and traumatised. I know the police narrative, but I just can’t believe it.

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Ohheyitsme1 · 28/04/2023 20:48

longtompot · 28/04/2023 18:48

I can't even think how her family are feeling, going from excitement about the arrival of her baby to this.
I've just read on the bbc news that the Police Investigations and Review Commissioner (Pirc) said the Crown Office had instructed them to launch an investigation into the death. Is this likely to mean she had contacted the police about his behaviour, and they hadn't acted on it?

That’s what I took that to mean too. Tragic.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 29/04/2023 00:41

It’s horrific x

hard as it must be for Yates’ family and friends to accept, it will be what it always is in similar situations. A violent abusive man taking the life of an innocent woman

RIP Marelle and your baby x it shouldn’t have happened

feels very close to home as I know both Mugdock and Jura Street quite well

LouBaloo · 30/04/2023 16:05

The more that’s reported on the murder of this poor girl the more sinister he seems. The Pirc haven’t launched an investigation for nothing.

Wittow · 01/05/2023 07:02

LouBaloo · 30/04/2023 16:05

The more that’s reported on the murder of this poor girl the more sinister he seems. The Pirc haven’t launched an investigation for nothing.

What else has been reported?

Midlander01 · 01/05/2023 07:25

I was wondering about their dog, but read he'd taken it to his mother's. Which suggests a degree of premeditation. RIP Marelle and baby.

Sugarfree23 · 01/05/2023 07:31

I read headlines he was a Lord of the Rings fan, and nicknamed her after a character who was killed in a double murder.
But I don't know much about LOTRs so doesn't make much sense to me.

Really unusual for it to be premeditated. I didn't know he'd taken the dog to his mother's.

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MrsMuddle · 01/05/2023 07:48

The latest reports are horrific. I imagined he’d killed her by accident (which would have been bad enough). It just shows that you never really know a person. I think he must have gone insane. Literally.

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Sugarfree23 · 01/05/2023 07:55

I'd also assumed that he'd flipped and killed her in a moment of madness which as you say would have bad enough. The thought of it being premeditated is absolutely brutal.

I do wonder if she's tried to seek help from the police before.

Ohheyitsme1 · 01/05/2023 08:04

Sugarfree23 · 01/05/2023 07:55

I'd also assumed that he'd flipped and killed her in a moment of madness which as you say would have bad enough. The thought of it being premeditated is absolutely brutal.

I do wonder if she's tried to seek help from the police before.

I had wondered that too. I think the PIRC investigation often happens in those circumstances.

MsDeb · 01/05/2023 08:09

It's another devastating loss of life, again at the hands of a man.
I appreciate that justice can never be done, because he's dead, but having had experience of the criminal justice system, I prefer them dead. Sentencing in Scotland is crap and families have the never ending additional trauma of these men constantly seeking release. Even if they do their whole sentence, they still come out not even 20 years later. Dead is better, in my opinion.

Ohheyitsme1 · 01/05/2023 08:13

I wonder if his family are being hounded yet. I saw his Mum lives in Bearsden (if you’re unfamiliar with Glasgow, this is a very nice suburb where footballers etc often live) so if the press are publishing details like that, they’ll be found.

Sugarfree23 · 01/05/2023 08:18

No matter what his Mum is innocent. Highly unlikely she knew what he was planning. She has lost her son and DIL and unborn DGC.
And has to deal with the burden that he's a killer.
Really how is she meant to pick up the pieces and get on with her life?

Shimmyshimmycocobop · 01/05/2023 08:27

Sugarfree23 · 01/05/2023 07:55

I'd also assumed that he'd flipped and killed her in a moment of madness which as you say would have bad enough. The thought of it being premeditated is absolutely brutal.

I do wonder if she's tried to seek help from the police before.

It's more usual for death at the hands of a partner to be part of a pattern of behaviour which escalates rather than someone flipping and lashing out in an argument. The book Control by Jane Monkton Smith explains the stages abusive relationships go through in the hope that agencies can intervene before it gets to the planning stage.
We don't know if thats what has happened but as pp said it looks like it may gave been premeditated. How horrific especially when she was so heavily pregnant.

ClaraThePigeon · 01/05/2023 08:43

It just shows that you never really know a person. I think he must have gone insane. Literally

He very probably hasn't. He's most likely your bog standard abusive piece of shit man. Women are murderered by men at a rate of 2 a week. They're almost always just selfish abusive men, just like the one who violently murdered my friend and left her body for her primary age child to find when they returned from school. I understand the shock if you knew Marelle and her murderer but it makes me cringe to see people scrabbling to find excuses for him yet it happens every time.

ClaraThePigeon · 01/05/2023 08:48

I saw his Mum lives in Bearsden (if you’re unfamiliar with Glasgow, this is a very nice suburb where footballers etc often live) so if the press are publishing details like that, they’ll be found.

I certainly hope not. It's not her fault and she's suffering beyond imagination as it is but there's no hiding in East Dunbartonshire anyway. It's a small county and while they may not know everyone, they'll certainly know someone who's connected to you. I'm an incomer or "townie" as we were called on moving to ED" and I still can't have a single conversation without learning that they know or are related to someone else I know. That said I don't think the media should print any more details about his family regardless.

AuContraire · 01/05/2023 08:59

It's so sickening to think men like this walk among us, and that people think they are good men.

Women who are pregnant are particular vulnerable when their partners are abusive narcissists.

If it turns out that she had spoken to the police before this too, then that makes an already heartbreakingly awful crime even worse.

LouBaloo · 01/05/2023 23:06

Wittow · 01/05/2023 07:02

What else has been reported?

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Lots of things, he took the dog to his mums the night before saying he had plans for the next day, the nickname he gave her from LOTR, he’d had mental health issues in the past and it’s being reported as a brutal frenzied attack.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/police-marelle-pirc-probe-govan-29848288

Cops probed over claims around the killing of pregnant Marelle Sturrock

The Sunday Mail understands the force is being investigated over claims around the time of the death of the mum-to-be.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/police-marelle-pirc-probe-govan-29848288

TooOldForThisNonsense · 02/05/2023 00:23

ClaraThePigeon · 01/05/2023 08:43

It just shows that you never really know a person. I think he must have gone insane. Literally

He very probably hasn't. He's most likely your bog standard abusive piece of shit man. Women are murderered by men at a rate of 2 a week. They're almost always just selfish abusive men, just like the one who violently murdered my friend and left her body for her primary age child to find when they returned from school. I understand the shock if you knew Marelle and her murderer but it makes me cringe to see people scrabbling to find excuses for him yet it happens every time.

Agreed

yoga4meinthemorning · 02/05/2023 01:25

The police have said the couple were previously known to them. Which is code for either she called them to report domestic abuse or a neighbour heard the abuse and called them.

Then she was just left to be murdered.

He wasn't a nice guy.

He was evil and dangerous.

Men like that get away with it for so long because they become masters at putting on the show of seeming wholesome.

RIP Mum and baby

Sugarfree23 · 02/05/2023 01:32

That's so sad and heartbreaking. She looked so happy in the photos together

MenoRageisReal · 02/05/2023 13:32

ClaraThePigeon · 01/05/2023 08:43

It just shows that you never really know a person. I think he must have gone insane. Literally

He very probably hasn't. He's most likely your bog standard abusive piece of shit man. Women are murderered by men at a rate of 2 a week. They're almost always just selfish abusive men, just like the one who violently murdered my friend and left her body for her primary age child to find when they returned from school. I understand the shock if you knew Marelle and her murderer but it makes me cringe to see people scrabbling to find excuses for him yet it happens every time.

Agree, violence against women and girls is endemic in society and nothing is ever done.
It's horrific.

storminamooncup · 02/05/2023 14:34

Her family's statement says they were devoted to each other, they aren't saying anything negative about him, and its surprising they are mentioning him at all.
I wonder if he was receiving treatment for a mental health condition and something happened, maybe he wasn't taking his meds or something?

Redglitter · 02/05/2023 14:42

Is this likely to mean she had contacted the police about his behaviour, and they hadn't acted on it

No it doesn't mean that. It is more likely to mean that the Police have come in contact with one of them prior to their death. It might have been domestic related, it might not. It certainly does not mean they didn't act on something.

Sugarfree23 · 02/05/2023 14:47

Who knows what is behind any of it.
They may have had contact with police before, maybe her family had no clue about any issues.
Maybe they are wary of saying much incase it prejudices any enquiries.

DZbornak · 02/05/2023 17:51

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