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Welcome to Scotsnet - discuss all aspects of life in Scotland, including relocating, schools and local areas.

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Blinkingstars · 21/03/2023 12:28

Research showed that in retrospect it would have been better to lock down the vulnerable and let the virus run through the rest of society via the school kids. But that’s easy to say in retrospect.

Sugarfree23 · 21/03/2023 13:22

You *!
England kept nurseries open in January 21 and I think their reception year were too - why the fuck were ours closed????

Zero Covid for a virus going round the world in an Airplane ✈️ you said it nobody else.

Sugarfree23 · 21/03/2023 13:26

Aye and English schools reopened in June 2020 while ours were still closed. That month could have made a huge difference to the kids sitting exams the following summer.

I rant on - it was obvious at the time kids weren't being thought about.
Has it not also been said they pushed masks in schools so other people would take note.

FFS 👵 Grannies aren't in schools.

Where are all the Railing threads

MorrisZapp · 21/03/2023 13:28

My 9 year old son became sluggish and put on weight. He was desperate to get back to football training but the council said no, even though it was outdoors and run by the dads on a voluntary basis.

I'll never forget.

herewego9 · 21/03/2023 13:31

Utterly disgraceful. It always was, not just in retrospect.

KnittingNeedles · 21/03/2023 14:28

It wasn’t just the first lockdown where kids were out of school march - august. It was the second Christmas to Easter one too.

and those of us who had a problem with keeping schools closed at the time and signed petitions were told we were covidiots who wanted all the teachers to die.

I am so cross about this. The impact on children and teens has been minimised constantly and they have missed out on so much.

Sugarfree23 · 21/03/2023 14:52

I can forgive the first lockdown to an extent everyone was frightened. We were relying on information from Italy.

Schools were struggling with staff numbers. But by May / June the covid rates were low, English kids were back in school - Scottish kids were still stuck at home - in the Zero Covid pish.

The second one Jan-Mar 21 I'm sure English nurseries were open. But ours were closed.

KnittingNeedles · 21/03/2023 14:58

Because of Mr Leitch and his “can’t be too careful”, my eldest was in uni twice in the whole 2020-21 academic year.

Catsolitude · 21/03/2023 15:26

The first lockdown fine. But the second. We weren’t allowed in Glasgow from something like September to May. The children weren’t allowed an in person nativity or singing or parties or any of the other things that help mental health and development. But we had to be different from England. His face was never off the tv. And we couldn’t just use Hands Face Space. Those adverts that were being shown for far too long about opening windows when we had visitors, further scaring people needlessly. Now he has regrets. He disgusts me.

BlueThursday · 21/03/2023 15:30

I could forgive the school situation if our school had actually engaged with us but near enough nothing until May time and then it was “watch bitesize”

glad that head is gone now she was a waste of space

Sugarfree23 · 21/03/2023 15:42

I'd forgive the teachers they were probably thinking 3 weeks it will all be fine and trying to get their heads round how you teach kids remotely.

If I remember correctly the teachers worked Easter 20 to get themselves sorted for the summer term online.

MistressIggi · 21/03/2023 15:49

The idiots at UFFT must be rubbing their hands with glee at this.

KnittingNeedles · 21/03/2023 15:53

We did not have summer term 2020 online. We had no online at all. Even in the second lockdown it was email contact only. There was no consistency and some schools were doing loads, others very little. It was an awful time for kids who were past the Biff Chip and Kipper stage and who needed their friends. Because as well as schools being closed all the clubs and activities were off and most of us were banned from going into each others houses.

They made us live under much stricter rules, for much longer, for no difference in outcome to England.

Sugarfree23 · 21/03/2023 16:02

Yes summer Mar-Jun 2020 was in the house.
I caved in and bought an Xbox my then 9yo was shuffling food round the plate. And I discovered how useless kids are on the phone to each other.

Kids at the Biff and Chip stage - how are teachers mean to teach phonics, and letter formation online.
Not to mention they can't actually read the instructions.

I remember coming across a study my Oxford uni they reckoned 7yos were the worse affected groups in the first lockdown

ssd · 21/03/2023 16:07

Our family believed them, and westminster.
The bs.

Sugarfree23 · 21/03/2023 16:29

Buy you know what I never stops amazing me how many MN posters seem to think NS out performed BJ over covid

Arrrr!

KnittingNeedles · 21/03/2023 16:46

Her presentation skills are better, she’s a better communicator. She spoke slowly and didn’t burble on about Greek myths and elaborate analogies.

But her communication style is confused with actually being effective, which she wasn’t.

BlueThursday · 21/03/2023 17:43

She definitely tried to model herself on ardern

Sugarfree23 · 21/03/2023 18:11

That's a good observation.
I remember feeling all through his and her presentations that you really needed to read between the lines to get the message.

boobashka · 21/03/2023 21:06

And we're still dealing with the consequences in schools now (primary teacher here) in poor social skills, poor mental health... NS didn't care about the kids - it was all about going 1 better than the English. Makes me angry now to think what our kids missed out on over those 2 years. 😡

Sugarfree23 · 21/03/2023 21:08

@boobashka are you a teacher?
Do you think any year group are where they are meant to be?

boobashka · 21/03/2023 21:20

@Sugarfree23 Certain year groups seem to be worse affected than others. This year's P1s are struggling socially and emotionally.
P4s very unsettled (they would have been early stages of primary school during the pandemic). Lots of my colleagues seeing the same.
A high school colleague told me that since covid the kids have no resilience and many view school work as 'optional'.

Motheranddaughter · 21/03/2023 22:09

Very interesting
Lots more of this to come I imagine

KnittingNeedles · 21/03/2023 22:16

Damage is done now though isn’t it? For thousands of school kids and uni students who missed so much. Politicians and “experts” shrugging their shoulders and saying they got it wrong, too bad so sad just give me the RAGE.

Sugarfree23 · 21/03/2023 22:31

Yes the damage is done and parents / schools just need to pick up the pieces

The only decent thing is kids are sort of in the same boat but some definitely had easier lockdowns than others.
Parents furloughed, keyworkers kids in school, having local friends to play with, stuck home parents both working