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School pupil 'health survey'

164 replies

horseymum · 27/11/2021 21:49

Does anyone have a link to the actual survey questions, I've just seen a couple of disturbing screen shots on Twitter and a daily mail article? There also appears to be a Perth council letter saying the data is linked to the pupil through their candidate number so can easily be traced back to them, however secure they say it is.

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alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:28

Yep.

I also remain unconvinced about the whole West Lothian response and would be interested to hear more about that. I've witnessed a sex Ed class in a West Lothian school and it was not for the faint of heart! 🤣

WouldBeGood · 28/11/2021 22:29

Would you honestly encourage your DCs to fill this in @alicesfavouritepen?

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:30

@WouldBeGood

The SNP are quite creepy though, with the daddy bears and obsession with people’s sexuality. And inability to define sex.

Predicating health policy on the responses of children to a survey on sex snd drugs seems fundamentally flawed to me.

Help inform. Not predict. Different things surely.
WouldBeGood · 28/11/2021 22:31

Same thing. You need quality data to help and inform.

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:31

@WouldBeGood

Would you honestly encourage your DCs to fill this in *@alicesfavouritepen*?
Yes. I think information gathering is important. There's a prefer not to answer button for anything they feel uncomfortable with.
alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:32

@WouldBeGood

Same thing. You need quality data to help and inform.
You need a range of data.

Predict and inform are not even close to being the same thing.

WouldBeGood · 28/11/2021 22:32

And dealing with the problems starts with addressing poverty, and education which they never do.

WouldBeGood · 28/11/2021 22:34

Oh! You’re mistaken, I said predicate, not predict. Predicate means to base something on

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:35

Haha apologies I misread it. The barely concealed joy in you getting to correct me made it worth it though. 🤣

sweetkitty · 28/11/2021 22:38

A “friend” on FB had posted some of the alleged questions asking about oral and anal sex. Cue loads of comments about if teens are being asked these questions about sex they’ll he thinking they should be doing it. Mostly from Scottish Family Party Supporters (is that what it’s called?) and allegations that the SNP are pedophiles for even asking in the first place.

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:40

Yes the Scottish Family Party and Us for Them are frothing at the mouth.

One woman on the thread has appealed to Boris Johnson no less to save us from the 'pedophile' administration.

It's comedy gold.

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:41

The Twitter thread posted below. Not this one.

WouldBeGood · 28/11/2021 22:41

I’m crabbit all round to be fair @alicesfavouritepen and I couldn’t understand the predicting thing!

Regardless, this survey isn’t the way to improve things, regardless of how shambolic they currently are

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:44

Well what is the way to improve things? Should they make no effort to ascertain the health and well-being of our young people? Or should they attempt it but leave out two of the most significant issues that might impact them?

It's optional. All the questions are optional. It's a mountain out of a molehill.

WouldBeGood · 28/11/2021 22:46

I have so many ideas how they could start to make things better!

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:47

Okay so how would you deal with teen health and well-being?

WouldBeGood · 28/11/2021 22:47

Would you genuinely tell the government about your sex life?

WouldBeGood · 28/11/2021 22:49

Meanwhile I’ll go to bed and formulate my socialist manifesto for a better Scotland 😃

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:50

Yeah I don't really give a shit. What do you think they are going to do with it? It's literally some medical researchers sitting putting numbers on a screen.

And if I did give a shit I would answer 'prefer not to say' because I would have that option.

RunLassieRun · 28/11/2021 22:51

I'm sure I completed similar in upper secondary ..? Long time ago!!

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:53

Probably @RunLassieRun but Us for Them weren't around to protect you then and stir up untold shit over every little thing. Smile

WouldBeGood · 28/11/2021 22:55

Very trusting @alicesfavouritepen 😊 I do not share your faith in government to keep data secure.

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 22:59

Well you kind of do because presumably you attend the doctors and what not? They keep your data secure. I'd be more worried about my medical records being leaked given that they exist in a readable format and are linked to my name than someone losing a pen drive that had tens and tens of multiple choice questions linked to a 12 or so digit number.

WouldBeGood · 28/11/2021 23:03

Never disclose my penchant for anal though.

Joking aside, I’m very circumspect with detail because I know they’re not secure.

And I never fill in any “anonymous questionnaires”

It’s not a good analogy as medical treatment and information storing is necessary.

Would you answer a UK government survey in these terms?

alicesfavouritepen · 28/11/2021 23:10

I answered that already. I have said yes I would fill it in. I'm not interesting in any way. Nobody is giving a shit about what I as an individual put on some survey. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I don't mean to be rude but what is your fear here? What do you think they will do? There are pretty stringent rules around keeping information. People are capable of being professional.

Even if it was all leaked what do you think would happen?