Bringing second dose pfizer forward

[Michellexxx]

Hi,

I am having to travel at the end of the month- my second vaccine is booked in for 3 weeks time- just over 8 weeks.

I’ve been wondering if a drop in clinic would give me it this week? I’ll be nearly 6weeks post first. This would mean I’m fully vaccinated for travelling and won’t have to reschedule vaccine for after travel.

I’ve tried online to reschedule but I’m guessing it’s programmed to only show bookings available after 8 weeks, as that’s all I can find!

Has anyone managed this? I’m in greater Glasgow health board.

Has anyone resident here managed to get a dose in England?

Scotland and England NHS use different systems so, if you need proof of vaccine, you will show as one dose on each system.
Remember you will need to get details of the vaccine to take to GP so the Scottish system can be updated.

Have just seen this, wonder if they’ll turn me away even with no queues!

Good news! DH got his second this morning. He asked to see the clinical lead (which got a bit of push back) but politely insisted that we needed to travel due to family emergency (my dad's not well). The clinical lead basically waved him through. So try asking for the clinical lead and good luck!

@1000umbrellas that’s excellent news! Delighted. Can I ask what centre he got this at? I will give it a go!

That’s great! Let me know if anyone tries the hydro- I might give it a go if there’s any success. Tempted to try again and ask for clinical lead!

@shg96 It was Galashiels but in the Borders they are moving them around; the drop-in is only there today and tomorrow.

@1000umbrellas

Good news! DH got his second this morning. He asked to see the clinical lead (which got a bit of push back) but politely insisted that we needed to travel due to family emergency (my dad's not well). The clinical lead basically waved him through. So try asking for the clinical lead and good luck!

How many weeks after first dose is your husband? I have another 2 weeks until my appointment. Might try one more time today but worried they’ll just say to delay until I return again!

@Michellexxx I’m going to try the hydro around 5ish. I think I’m going to go down to London and try there on Tuesday, loads of loads of walk ins with no questions asked! When there’s a will there’s a way

Have a look at get jabbed on Reddit- lots of people posting feedback on walk ins/ where has extra stock.

@bertieb7

Have a look at get jabbed on Reddit- lots of people posting feedback on walk ins/ where has extra stock.

I have looked here but everything is in England- mainly the south, so not even drivable. Thanks though.

[quote shg96]@Michellexxx I’m going to try the hydro around 5ish. I think I’m going to go down to London and try there on Tuesday, loads of loads of walk ins with no questions asked! When there’s a will there’s a way [/quote]
Can you let me know how you get on at the hydro? I’m 30 mins away, but have kids, so it’s a bit harder for me! If you have some success, I might be able to race there just before 6! I can’t go down south easily, because of kids! Next wed is kind of my cut off, then it’s pointless because I won’t have enough time to be considered fully vaccinated before travel.

I’m a teacher so have the holidays and have no kids, I understand why it must be tricky for you! I’m going to go down around 5 or so (I live a 10 min walk from hydro). Will let you know! Have a feeling i’d going to be a hard no however

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@Michellexxx he's 6 weeks. I think the key is thatbthe people on the door don't have any authority to let you in but if you can get through to a clinician they can override the system.

@shg96

I’m a teacher so have the holidays and have no kids, I understand why it must be tricky for you! I’m going to go down around 5 or so (I live a 10 min walk from hydro). Will let you know! Have a feeling i’d going to be a hard no however

Also a teacher! Which is why it’s so annoying re travelling only in the summer! By the time I’m considered ‘fully vaccinated’, we’ll be back at school!

@Michellexxx
no luck! woman in front of my was 7 weeks and 4 days and they still said no! least you don’t have to go out in the rain

For goodness sake! It’s crazy! Did you ask for the clinical lead or was it a bit 😐?
Thanks for letting me know. I think I’ll have to write it off 😭

The woman in front did and the guy said her answer would be the same as his. I’ve just booked my flights down to London on Tuesday for it never easy!

Ah! Such a nightmare. Good luck, I hope it goes well and there isn’t as much dejection!

I’m sure you’ll manage fine, England do seem to be a bit more sensible about it all.

The reason it's 8 weeks is because the real life studies have shown that maximum antibody production and therefore maximum protection is established at 8 week gap at the earliest.
So although it seems like a inconvenience its actually to offer people the best level of protection for the future

@Scottishskifun

The reason it's 8 weeks is because the real life studies have shown that maximum antibody production and therefore maximum protection is established at 8 week gap at the earliest. So although it seems like a inconvenience its actually to offer people the best level of protection for the future

That is not true for pfizer, which is why it is given earlier in every other country. The scientists behind pfizer say 6 weeks should be the absolute maximum.

It’s not an Inconvenience, it’s literally dictating what a certain sect of society can do. In fact, the section of society that would have been least affected by covid. Our liberties are literally being constrained and cases in our age group are at an all time high because of it, and vaccines being given out, reducing.

Also, the long term protection is not about anti bodies- they don’t always demonstrate protection. It is the t-cells which are important for long term.
As it stands, some people will be getting a third jab, when others are still awaiting second.

@Michellexxx the other countries follow the trial data. The scientist behind the zoe app also did real life data and took regular antibody level tests for people who were vaccinated for both AZ and Pfizer. That's what their data showed on antibody levels and found that T Cell memory also kicked in.
They did a update podcast on you tube which showed the data around Feb/March time.

Yes, my family own a pharmaceuticals company completing trials, my SIL is a prof in developing biological sciences at leading uk university, so I do have quite a bit of knowledge on this.

It certainly isn’t true that 8 weeks is needed for protection in regards to Pfizer. 4w for moderna and, yes, longer for AZ.
If it were, all other countries would be following it.

Looking at data from an app is not the same as a clinical trial with controls, although obviously all of that information is very itself, it can not dictate clinical policy.

This is a balance between what they want politically too- their figures for people vaccinated with one dose was great, but also the reason that we have such rising case numbers in younger groups who have only received one dose, so far.

Vaccine hesitancy is very low, which is great. But this is certainly not a purely scientific decision.