Rhiannon Spear hates the UK

[MsBarbaryBriefly]

Rhiannon Spear, who represents the Greater Pollok ward in Glasgow, was accused of using “abhorrent language” in a tweet about the Eurovision results in which she said: “It’s OK Europe we hate the United Kingdom too. Love, Scotland.”

Reported in The Times. I suppose it's nice to know she's at least being honest.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/86f4c26e-bc13-11eb-8144-d3653cd81e51?shareToken=64c40c496f897287a9fce075e6593f44

Not surprising from an SNP member. They need to concentrate on recovery from Covid. They shouldn't even be thinking of independence right now.

Getting the nhs open so ppl can finally get treatment.
We need schools open as they were pre-covid.
We need small businesses to be supported so they can get running.

They're all way more important than independence.

The childish petulance from the SNP never fails to astound me. Does she only represent those born in Scotland then?

Sadly, the petulance of SNP members doesn't surprise me at all (although I see now she's 'apologised' for any offence caused so as per the other thread, that's ok then 🙄 ). What does astound me is the level of openness about their hatred for the UK given that they want to be an independent country and presumably be taken seriously as such. If Scotland were to become independent all these petty side swipes at other nations would fall well short of the level of diplomacy required to get on on the world stage. They're like the national equivalent of a stroppy teenager lashing out because they think themselves morally superior or they can't have their own way, but with no concept of the need to moderate their language or make compromises/difficult decisions in the adult world.

It's ok - she apologised .
It does make one feel so welcome as a non Scottish born person with an English DH.

Tweet and apologise is the standard these days. Personally I think the person that you’re talking about lacks any intelligence at all- anglophobia aside- and given that they have a responsibility in Education, that’s the real worry. They represent many numpties who have been over-promoted (see also, the Scottish cabinet) in the small Scottish councillor pond. Social media enables them to puff out their chests and express their bias without fear of reprimand, because those above the Mcminions are equally as irresponsible on social media. (e.g. Blocking those that question, enabling anglophobia, commenting on live legal situations, expressing opinion on delicate political situations, etc.)

Perhaps the SNP college should introduce a module on ‘social media’?

@Bytheloch you're right - the real issue is it exposes the complete lack of any basic intelligence of one of the SNPs politicians.

Fair enough any party can have a rogue member, but for a party with such a slick leader in terms of public communications, it seems odd that the team are not well briefed in terms of what's acceptable and what's not. Or maybe they don't really care too much as their core supporters will lap up a comment like this.

Just such a lack of intelligence, social awareness, dignity and gravitas and just what we've come to expect from some SNP representatives. The tweet implies that she is speaking on behalf of Scotland - errmm no thanks. She isn't even speaking for the whole of the SNP, I'm sure there must be some members/voters who want independence but don't hate the UK. I mean they are still likely to be a major importer of Scottish goods come any independence decision. Sick of how this gobshite stuff shows Scotland on the world stage tbh.

I've been reasonably impressed with the UK not rising to some of the digs thrown by the EU though.

Ah, how lovely, some inclusive, modern and superior Scottish nationalism on display there.

The SNP is awash with institutionalised aglophobia, and it doesn’t seem to bother then in the slightest. They seem proud of the fact.

It's okay to peddle this shit but tweeting that sex is binary could land you in court - what a world we live in now.

Isn't the whole point of the SNP that they want to break free of the UK? I mean, I was pretty clear all the way in London that they weren't keen on it.

Clearly it is beyond stupid for a politician to say - she ain't a clever 'un. However, I don't think a throw-away 'joke' about Eurovision is really that surprising or offensive.

@Grumblesigh

Isn't the whole point of the SNP that they want to break free of the UK? I mean, I was pretty clear all the way in London that they weren't keen on it.

Clearly it is beyond stupid for a politician to say - she ain't a clever 'un. However, I don't think a throw-away 'joke' about Eurovision is really that surprising or offensive.

Maybe it's not when you say it to your pals or when you aren't a political representative.

I'm sure i say plenty of offensive stuff but I don't represent people for a living and get paid by the public purse and don't do it identifiably in public. She also seems to forget that we are part of the UK.

The mask slips. The SNP's xenophobia laid bare. Could you imagine the uproar from within the SNP if a Toarie had tweeted that they hate Ireland?

@rookiemere

It's ok - she apologised . It does make one feel so welcome as a non Scottish born person with an English DH.

Well I was born in and live in Scotland- as a Unionist it makes me feel unwelcome too.

More divisive nonsense today.

• nice to see them concentrating on the issues that really matter

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/let-scotland-enter-eurovision-says-snp-mp-alyn-smith-lks0w8hq6

Alyn Smith is my MP, he is a nasty piece of work and a useless one at that.

Saw something today about loads money shelled out setting up some office in Brussels? Can't remember where I saw it.

@ElephantOfRisk

Alyn Smith is my MP, he is a nasty piece of work and a useless one at that.

Saw something today about loads money shelled out setting up some office in Brussels? Can't remember where I saw it.

Spear and Smith are so stupid they don't realise that if Hamza's Hate Act were fully in force and if it were to be implemented as written it would apply to them.

@Iwouldratherbesailing

The SNP is awash with institutionalised aglophobia, and it doesn’t seem to bother then in the slightest. They seem proud of the fact.

But as long as you apologise it's all good, yes?

The SNP bots go to extreme lengths to say they're not anti-English. Then one of their elected officials gets on Twitter and shows their true colours.

How mature !

What does astound me is the level of openness about their hatred for the UK given that they want to be an independent country and presumably be taken seriously as such. If Scotland were to become independent all these petty side swipes at other nations would fall well short of the level of diplomacy required to get on on the world stage.

But would they still make the petty side swipes at other nations if they weren't included in the thing they're swiping about?

A lot of people dislike the establishment of the UK. They dislike "the UK". That's not the same as swiping at the people of England or Northern Ireland or Wales.

And "speaking for Scotland" is a very established form of humour on Twitter etc. There are whole corners of the internet devoted to people who "speak for Scotland" on Twitter.

I'm not a diehard SNP fan, didn't vote for them, really dislike many of their policies and am undecided how I'd vote if indy2 happened, and I think this was ill-judged and not something I would ever tweet (especially if I was in the public eye etc)... but I think this is making a mountain out of a molehill to be honest. There is enough anti-English sentiment around without trying to find it in "lighthearted" tweets about the UK and the Eurovision. And as I said above, it's unhelpful to conflate the UK with England because that's exactly what people who want independence have a problem with (amongst other things).

(Inverted commas around lighthearted because I think that was the woman's intent behind the tweet).

I honestly don't think her intention was to be lighthearted, i don't think it was intended to be what it came across as either. I just think that she is not very bright but that this is the way they talk in their echo chamber and she forget herself. That is telling imo

But at the end of the day, this is what people are voting for and what we are paying for. It's tragic really.

*More divisive nonsense today.

• nice to see them concentrating on the issues that really matter*

This is what I mean, all of this divisive shit to try and separate Scotland from the rUK in all but name while schools/education/the economy etc. burns, all the while taking pot shots at Westminster at every opportunity. They all do it, even when they claim to being 'non-political', and what's worse they act as though they are speaking for the whole of Scotland with this bollocks. Just once, I'd like to feel like Scotland's leaders were actually amongst the grown ups in the room rather than an overblown student's union.

What if it was:

Its OK Russia, we hate gays too, love Scotland

Or

It’s OK Palestine, we hate Jews too, love Scotland

See, it’s totally and utterly unacceptable, even if it was meant in a ‘jovial’ manner.

Gosh! Can you imagine if this had been a comment from an English Tory party member, saying they hated Scotland?!?

I don't know how the union can survive with the SNP having such a monopoly in Scottish politics, especially with so many of these bigots representing us. It's bloody shameful and we have no viable opposition in the Scottish Parliament to put them in their place.

@Iwouldratherbesailing

What if it was:

Its OK Russia, we hate gays too, love Scotland

Or

It’s OK Palestine, we hate Jews too, love Scotland

See, it’s totally and utterly unacceptable, even if it was meant in a ‘jovial’ manner.

For goodness sake, please do not compare Eurovision to the situation in Palestine .