Could The PM just dissolve the Scottish Parliament?

[Icecreamscooper]

In light of what Boris Johnson has said last night about devolution being a disaster, and concerns over the internal market bill there has been a lot of talk and suspicion that he intends a massive power grab from Holyrood or even to dissolve the Scottish Parliament.

This seems unthinkable to me as the people of Scotland voted for devolution by a huge majority. Do people believe this could actually happen?

Exactly, the fact the Uk government has power right now is neither debatable or undecided, it is factual

I said the power to hold referendums only being in the power of the UK government was moot. Not that the UK gov didn't.

Genie is already well and truly out of the bottle. Even if Johnson did bring about the end of Holyrood, it would just be the latest in a long succession of unionist political acts that serve to drive Scotland further and further toward Independence.

The uber-Britnat lot in Downing Street right now really are the greatest gift to the Independence cause in years, perhaps only rivalled by the English population's determination to have their Brexit.

Remember it's not just Boris who is working towards the elimination of powers in Holyrood. See below from Douglas Ross's speech last week-

"And therefore, the only way to strengthen the Union is to abolish the Scottish Parliament and return to a pre-1999 situation or severely constrain its powers."

Incase anyone needs reminding of how the Prime Minister views Scots-

"Devolution is causing all the strains that its opponents predicted, and in allowing the Scots to make their own laws, while free-riding on English taxpayers, it is simply unjust. The time will come when the Scots will discover that their personal care for the elderly is too expensive, and they will come, cap in hand to Uncle Sugar in London. And when they do, I propose that we tell them to hop it."

Uncle Sugar.

Yeah because we don't pay any taxes.

He's an utter cunt.

He is. One who's just announced £16 billion will be spent on defence. Just what's needed when the country's f*cked through Brexit and Covid. Of course, we'll be liable for ten per cent of the cost plus interest.

Liable for ten percent, without being given any explanation whatsoever with regard to what that ten percent has been spent on.

Still, it's somewhat reassuring to know that we presumably own one tenth of two aircraft carriers.

In the even of nuclear armageddon, does Holyrood get to specify exactly who we lob every tenth Trident missile at?

@MumofHunter

He is. One who's just announced £16 billion will be spent on defence. Just what's needed when the country's f*cked through Brexit and Covid. Of course, we'll be liable for ten per cent of the cost plus interest.

My teenager daughter had the hysterical giggles when she heard on the radio news this that Boris Johnson was setting up a 'Space Command'.

"But That's Gerry Anderson's job!"

Boris Johnson's Space Command is GO! Launch Superthunderstingcar!

Sadly he can't.

This frothing at the mouth by lefties is crazy. In the last 10 years Holyrood has become a disaster. Everything is organised towards separatism and virtually nothing to running the country.

Lol TheSandman, he really is Britain's Trump and has no concept of reality.

He was acting out his Churchill fantasy during the defence announcement- WW1, WW2, The Falklands and Margaret Thatcher all got a mention.

@cdtaylornats

Speak for yourself! Look the cat of Scottish Independence is now out of the bag and it’s not going away.

“This frothing at the mouth by lefties is crazy. In the last 10 years Holyrood has become a disaster. Everything is organised towards separatism and virtually nothing to running the country.”

You obviously have selective vision or a real cheek to say this as I could say exactly the same about right wingers and Westminister, if it weren’t for the debacle of brexit and swivel eyed loon right wingers then we likely wouldn’t be having this conversation!

Yes the SNP are taking advantage of the current situation but it was the UK government that tied the noose and put it around the neck of the union.

@cdtaylornats

Sadly he can't.

This frothing at the mouth by lefties is crazy. In the last 10 years Holyrood has become a disaster. Everything is organised towards separatism and virtually nothing to running the country.

So what's your analysis of Westminster's recent performance then?

Close it down? Oh, if only he could! It’s not a “parliament” it’s an incompetent assembly, obsessed with independence, that has failed Scotland in every devolved area from education to health, business, free speech, women’s rights and the economy.

So because you don't like the party that is currently in power you want the democratically elected parliament to be shut down?

Doesn't surprise me.

The Scottish Parliament was set up by an act of the UK Parliament and it can be dissolved by an act of the UK Parliament. I can't see it happening though, even with Boris in charge.

Indyref was before Brexit was thought of.
To assume that indyref and an attempt to rejoin EU is what Scots want postbrexit is daft - indyref is a different proposition now - who knows which way it would go, Cameron and cronies assumed the vote would be to stay in EU and look what happened.

@DrDreReturns

The Scottish Parliament was set up by an act of the UK Parliament and it can be dissolved by an act of the UK Parliament. I can't see it happening though, even with Boris in charge.

I agree. Even if this was to pass in Westminster, wouldn't it need to be sanctioned by the House of Lords?

The internal market bill has been created (and I believe passed) which will transfer powers to the UK Gov). This covers food, agriculture, the NHS and education. The Tories do not believe in devolution ( Scottish leader Ross included).

@Babdoc

Close it down? Oh, if only he could! It’s not a “parliament” it’s an incompetent assembly, obsessed with independence, that has failed Scotland in every devolved area from education to health, business, free speech, women’s rights and the economy.

If it was the Scottish Tories in power, or if the SNP were doing what you approved of (impossible I know, you'll hate them no matter what they do), would you still want the Scottish parliament dissolved?

@titsbumfannythelot yes it would need to pass both houses in order to get royal assent. It's not going to happen.

That's what I thought. Boris is a massive arsehole but he's not that stupid.

I suspect that if Scotland decides to go it's own way there will be more of a sigh of relief from the south than and wailing and gnashing of teeth. I'm not sure what Scotland brings to the table now that the oil industry is in the doldrums. Probably the submarines would stay as NATO presumably pays to keep them there. Scotland will need every penny it can get.
I'm sure they'd love to get rid of the SNP whingers in Westminster.
I voted to leave last time but I've been so disappointed by the SNP gov that imv that's the last thing any country needs - they seem determined to make a nanny state which as a Scot, is the last thing i think we need, we want jobs and training, standing on our own feet, not desperate and needy with laws controlling speech, gender, school meals, parents responsibilities etc etc

I wholeheartedly agree with you @AlizarinRed, I voted no in the last referendum. I can't say I regret that decision.

Alizarin You realise the Tories are spending millions to persuade Scots to stay in the UK? Our friends in England would love to join us in an indy Scotland!

A sentiment that's easy to express...