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A quick question about allowed travel?

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RJnomore1 · 29/10/2020 20:54

So if I’m in a tier 3 area can I travel to Other tier 3 areas just not no tier 2?

Not sure I quite get that bit.

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dementedpixie · 29/10/2020 20:57

Not supposed to do any travel unless its essential. Are you not supposed to stay in your own local area?

mepan · 29/10/2020 20:58

Ms Sturgeon said that anyone living in a level three area should not travel outside the council area they live in except for "essential reasons" such as work, outdoor exercise, essential shopping or healthcare or caring reasons

Meepmeeep · 29/10/2020 20:59

I think she quite clearly stated you are not to travel out of a level 3 area. Unless essential - ie work.

cocopops · 29/10/2020 22:46

It depends on whether this is enshrined in regulation or is just guidance. The regs haven’t been published yet and are usually only made available immediately prior to coming into force.

If the latter, you can go where you please, legally. I suspect the travel “ban” will be guidance only as it has been previously.

user1487194234 · 30/10/2020 06:17

It is guidance so I will ignore
Think they actually want you to stay in your own council area
Following the law (even if I don't agree with it) is one thing ,following guidance is something else

RaspberryCoulis · 30/10/2020 08:11

They do want you to stay in your own council area.

Totally impractical for people who live in smaller council areas on the edge of bigger ones which they rely on for shopping.

Not being "allowed" to leave the boundaries of Glasgow city is very different from not being "allowed" to leave East Ren or East Dunbartonshire.

I'll be ignoring this one. If we want to go a bit further afield for a walk then we will.

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RJnomore1 · 30/10/2020 08:50

I was very unclear because I am certain they said they other day do not travel to an area in a different tier then said something different. But that’s usual eh.

I work for a local authority, the guidance will come through about 24 hours after they say your local council will sort it. 🙄

It’s not essential but I was hoping to go to Livingston outlet, where I live is tier 3, so is it and everything I would drive through, to get some Xmas presents next month rather than amazon 🤷🏻‍♀️

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mylittleyumyum · 30/10/2020 09:11

Tier 3 be put into Tier 4 soon and it will be blamed on people travelling outside their area. Mark my words.

One minute it's being blamed on pubs and restaurants, then people meeting indoors, next it will be people driving to the coast for a breathe of sea air...

RaspberryCoulis · 30/10/2020 10:00

They will blame anything and everything apart from themselves, and the fact that it's a virus, doing what viruses do.

I refuse to feel guilty about driving less than three miles to one of three neighbouring areas.

dementedpixie · 30/10/2020 10:02

Think shopping is ok. Going to visit someone, maybe not so much

dementedpixie · 30/10/2020 10:05

Level 3 travel info:

Travel
no non-essential travel into or out of the level 3 area:
exemptions for essential travel for work, education, shopping, health etc;
outdoor exercise;
weddings and funerals;
shared parenting, and transit through restricted areas
international quarantine regulations apply

ssd · 30/10/2020 10:05

Go before Monday RJ, that's when it kicks in

dementedpixie · 30/10/2020 10:06

It says shopping is ok though

www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-protection-levels/pages/protection-level-3/

ssd · 30/10/2020 10:11

Yes it does!

See to be honest, why have restrictions in place when the exceptions cover just about everything you would do?

What things are actually restricted then??

WaxOnFeckOff · 30/10/2020 10:11

What doesn't (or couldn't be twisted to be) fit into one of those criteria though other than things we aren't already allowed to do? Going for a meal? (isn't that just shopping for ready made food you consume on the premises?) Visiting people? (already not allowed anywhere in homes) but could meet up for shopping/exercise etc.

WaxOnFeckOff · 30/10/2020 10:12

Crossed with @ssd there, great minds think alike... fools seldom differ

ssd · 30/10/2020 10:12

Why not just say no home visits in tier 3 and that's it?

cocopops · 30/10/2020 10:14

@user1487194234

It is guidance so I will ignore Think they actually want you to stay in your own council area Following the law (even if I don't agree with it) is one thing ,following guidance is something else
This. Just checked yesterday’s speech and she definitely said it will be guidance. So, not enforceable in the least.
RaspberryCoulis · 30/10/2020 11:59

She has to make exceptions though which make the rules pointless.

Many people where I am (Bearsden/Milngavie) commute into Glasgow to work, or to one of the half a dozen other local authorities close by. Our dentist is in Glasgow city council. The orthodontist too. We have no A&E anywhere in the Council area so that's another trip into the city. There are no big shopping areas at all (apart from the retail park in Bishopbriggs). Lots of kids living in Bearsden/Milngavie go to school in Glasgow. Lots of kids living in West Dun / Glasgow / Stirling go to school in Bearsden and Milngavie!

So if we're still allowed to travel into Glasgow city for work, healthcare, schooling, shopping etc, what exactly are we NOT allowed to travel for?

What a pile of pish.

WaxOnFeckOff · 30/10/2020 12:04

So if we're still allowed to travel into Glasgow city for work, healthcare, schooling, shopping etc, what exactly are we NOT allowed to travel for?

Anything from which you might feasibly extract a modicum of enjoyment?

The exceptions need to be there, but the rule is also there so that in future people can once again be blamed for not following the overall rule of not going anywhere, whilst completely disregarding that people have needed to and have used the exceptions...

Smoke and mirrors...

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RJnomore1 · 30/10/2020 13:31

What a pile of pish

Beautifully worded.

I’d feel bad going xmas shopping, I’d do it for food. But Xmas feels a bit nonessential 🙈

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Mrsjayy · 30/10/2020 13:37

@RJnomore1

What a pile of pish

Beautifully worded.

I’d feel bad going xmas shopping, I’d do it for food. But Xmas feels a bit nonessential 🙈

I asked the same yesterday because I also want to go to Livingston. Grin. I will probably wait a couple of weeks and go anyway I know I know it's not great.
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RJnomore1 · 30/10/2020 14:03

I think you’re nearer than me mrs j. How are you anyway? Long time no see!

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anon444877 · 30/10/2020 14:52

If you popped into a food shop and got a few bits whilst picking up some non essential shopping surely you'd be in the clear? Smile

RaspberryCoulis · 30/10/2020 16:20

If they REALLY think they're going to stop every day driving south along the Switchback to the tunnel, or towards the Kilbowie Roundabout, or out towards Drymen, or down Maryhill Road towards town from East Dun, they're going to need a fuckton more police.

They're back to the whacking an arbitrary limit on - like the "don't travel more than 3/5/10 miles" bollocks which was fine if you lived in a city, impossible for people living rurally. Telling people "don't leave your region" if you live in Highland is a wee bit differnet from being told you can't leave East or West Dumbartonshire.

We'll be pretty much ignoring that anyway. It's just something else they can use to deflect criticism from their policies when numbers don't immediately return to zero.