And then there were 48...

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Yesterday there were about 250 people still in hospital with Covid. Now the new revised figure is 48.
Hadn't the SG been called out on this, we would have happily carried on with the inflated figure.
So, we are making decision on public health based on a test that we know gives out a high number of false positives when the true positives are low, and based on numbers of hospital admissions that up until yesterday nobody knew.
In the meantime, whatever happened to the "zeroCovid" policy? It hasn't been mentioned for a while. We spent the summer locked up for what, then? I daresay, no reason whatsoever. Just because someone was chasing unicorns and decided that we all ought to.

We thought about borrowing a club each and pretending we are golfing.

Or a shotgun?

@SockYarn

Or a shotgun?

I could manage a nerf gun?

What a shocker. All those people in hospital with supposed covid are not actually being treated for that. They’re mostly old or already sick people who happen to have had covid. They could have done this audit months ago but chose to spout the scary hundreds of people in hospital line for political purposes.

Yep Holy welcome to the common sense club.

@WaxOnFeckOff. Why thank you 😊. The problem is that so many people questioning it are the tinfoil hat wearing loonies who seem rational at first but then start spouting about new world orders etc. Which then kicks off the total lockdown you want to kill me and your granny nutcases. Why can’t we have a sensible grown up conversation in Scotland (and the rest of the U.K. tbh) without going to either extreme?

I dunno, then it descends into saying that the people disagreeing arejust remainers and aren't sticking to the rules because they hate Nicola and all the SNP faithful are good boys and girls.

At the beginning of all this there were many mistakes in approach, however, no-one at that point had a crystal ball. However, as time has gone on and more information has become available it seems that we've gone further and further away from where the science should have taken us.

I mean, folk were pleased today because someone told them how to wash a mask in the "daily PPB sponsored by Covid".

People are losing the ability to think for themselves and I don't think that's accidental - pass me the tin foil hat... :o

And on the day they announced the adjusted figure, they didn't the whole briefing wittering on about scam calls, none of which have actually been reported to police.

There have been scam calls for months and I'm sure that the scammers can't tell who is on what side of the border so some must have been in Scotland before?

I know i am a cynical old cow though so I try not to rant about everything and anything and I can't set DH off either or that's our evening finished :o

They spent the whole briefing.

What scam calls?

Anyway, on the plus side things are getting back to normal because I have read that next week in Dundee the will resume the food waste collection.
WTF, it's mid September and they haven't had one since March...

Apparently scammers have been calling people up, saying they are from track and trace and they need money for a test to be sent.

Apparently. Because none of it has been reported to the police.

yes, been about on Social Media for months though so must be gospel.

Looking at today’s figures, the issue still seems to be in Glasgow and Lanarkshire- 164 cases.

There were only 126 across the rest of the country (4.5 million people). This includes 47 in Lothian (this is still not a huge number for an area of 1 million people and an outbreak seems to have originated in a student accommodation complex).

If the Glasgow area outbreak can be got under control, I think we’ll actually be in quite a positive situation as cases are still low everywhere else.

The good news is that the rise in cases does not seem to be leading to large numbers of hospitalisations- there are only 5 COVID patients in ICU across the whole country.

Yet Nicola is hinting there may need to be stricter measures if the rule of 6 doesn't work ... sigh

@Ecosse, indeed, but what you say, I fear, makes no sense to me.
What I mean is that we spent the summer cooped up because we had to "suppress the virus" and no number was low enough. Now we have numbers that 10 times higher and we, more or less, go about our business. WTF?!
And hospitalisations have been pretty much constant throughout (or so I surmise... goodness knows what the actual number look like.), so what does all this mean? What exactly are we shielding against? After we have contained the GG "outbreak" what will have changed?

It's all bonkers really. So what did we do? Protect some people who may have succumbed to the virus but deaths were the same anyway?Just different people for different reasons? As a society we changed nothing, but on an individual level, aunt betty being in her house for 6 months saved Aunt betty but someone else died due to lack of health provision or whatever?

We've had more people killed on the roads over the last week in my area than we had in covid deaths for months, should we all not drive?

But the picture isn't even consistent across the greater glasgow and clyde health area.

East Dunbartonshire - where I am - 4 today, 44 over the last 7 days. We're banned from going into other people's houses.

Many more cases in N and S Lanarkshire, and obviously in Glasgow city which is much larger. Anyway we're doing that out of the frying pan and into the fire thing - just booked a break in Northumberland which has been locked down further too.

I've booked for the lake district for a few days in October, no doubt be unable to leave the cabin by then.

Sturgeon now earning that stricter measures will be coming into force.

I think it does have to be questioned whether this is at all proportionate when we already have the strictest national rules in Europe yet cases are low outside Glasgow and Lanarkshire.

Only 5 in ICU across the whole country too so certainly no indication that the NHS is about to be overwhelmed.

She also said she's strongly advising against travel within the UK.

We have a week booked in Northumberland in October and we are most definitely going. I have missed an Easter holiday and a summer holiday and need a change of scene before going through another dark winter.

I won't be surprised if we see a similar "pubs close at 10pm" rule here soon though.

I'll just leave this here for a listen, yes he's a tory and no i'm not one but this isn't really about that. It's not as long as the other link :D

Yes sock, I'm going on mine too. The numbers where I am going are similarly low as they are here, I'm not dragging my infested ass all over the country. We'll most likely either be out in the countryside walking or sitting in the cabin regardless so not exactly risky behaviour anyway.

AMEN!!

I expect her to ban all contact with other households from Monday.