I think playgrounds will be opening after tomorrow's announcement

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Yay at last for the little ones

If a park is open we'll be using it. This isn't phase 2 its phase 1b as far as I can tell. 11 infections, 9 confirmed cases in ICU. That's good enough for me. Grandparents will be visiting if they want to and vice versa. Will meet a friend in her garden/home. Hardly Wildly socialising anyway but that's my plan.

@InfiniteGerbils sorry that happened to you at the park. I hate the way this pandemic is making everyone behave. The lockdown police on my local FB page are so angry and abusive and want everyone to shut themselves away for ever I think. Heaven forbid someone is happily enjoying themselves!

@Pootle40 me too

Large Glasgow park today - very big playground with little gates shut but kids climbed over or parents lifted them over. Very busy. Large group of older kids all over the park. Loads of group of friends/families sitting out.
Local park: kids on swings.
Local schools playground swing/play equipment: - key workers kids all over them at lunchtimes. Same after school time when local kids use it. No social distancing at all

Take a look around you NS. People have had enough and are ignoring you.

@MyLittleFishDontCry sorry, needed a comma in there. If you’ve been shielding you can go and play golf now, apparently.
Others can have overnight guests, I.e. grandparents...many of whom have been ‘shielding’ due to age, rather than specific condition. All from tomorrow.
Yet, the kids have to wait another 10 days or so for a playground visit. That was my point.

I'm an SNP voter and I'm really pissed off with today's announcement. I think NS is irreversibly tanking the economy now.
Without apology, I am now doing things not in the rules - playpark, going into my parents house etc and will take the fine rather than live how government is ruling.

I have stuck to this lockdown pretty religiously but I will be taking my son to the small play park on our street tomorrow. We've had kids playing out in the street all week - I don't see what difference another 10 days makes. Thoroughly pissed off.

@SkyscraperStreets

She is killing the economy now. No reason at all why shops could not open on Monday.

I think she is loving the opportunity to retain control!

I'm more scared about the refusal to ease off lockdown than the virus itself. Is this our lives now?

I've been shielding and today went to our local park. My teenage DC took footballs and I ran around the path.

The playpark had a Dad and his two DC on it. This is a small-ish NE village. Guess folk are just doing what they want now anyway.

More and more people are taking the same approach @aquamarine1. Rules now are so complicated, arbitrary and impossible to enforce.

There will still be a contingent of shielders and lockdown junkies who are locking themselves in their houses and ranting online about the second wave which is going to kill us all.

I wish there was some explanation of why things are moving so slowly even though infection rates and R are low (data here covid.joinzoe.com/data , latest R=0.6). It does seem to be political, and I’m worried about the economy with school “holidays” about to start.
Don’t want to derail the thread but @Bartlet is completely right about the stats. I wonder if a lot of people got the “flatten the curve” plot for herd immunity stuck in their head. Countries which had few cases at the start are unsurprisingly coming out of lockdown sooner IF their lockdown was effective. Height of the peak is proportional to pre-lockdown infections. Slope is dependent on how effective lockdown was. Unless herd immunity kicks in.

Bartlet - the fear that she seems to be trying to instill in us is one of the things that annoys me most.

Well, that was until her announcements today. I don't have space to list them all now

@peajotter. This crisis has turned joe public into so called authorities on sorts which is why people like Upstar can have such poor critical analysis skills and spout such utter bollocks such as this.

“curve is longer and flatter because we locked down comparatively early compared to London who locked down comparatively later”.

If we’d locked down earlier in the curve (as she claims) then we should be comparatively much better off and able to exit earlier - as we’d have nipped it in the bud before it takes hold properly. Which is why the lockdown loonies were moaning that we as an entire country should have locked down earlier.

Not surprised NS is managing to hoodwink these type of people and convince them that she’s doing a good job when in fact the absolute polar opposite is true.

@Tomorrowisanewday. Absolutely. She is doing the “mummy knows best and you should all be scared” patter and people are lapping it up.

Many parts of Scotland had zero new diagnosed cases today but people are convinced for example if their daughter stands less than two metres from her boyfriend then they’ll both end up in ICU even though not one single child has died from this in Scotland.

People don’t understand risk and probability and she’s counting on this with her slow release which will kill the Scottish economy.

Yes, that's one of the other things that annoys me. I work in construction, so do risk assessments every day. NS just doesnt want us to have that option.

so we're just supposed to sit cowering at home while our economy tanks...................

To be frank, the majority of deaths have been in care homes- largely as a result of the SNP discharging thousands of patients from hospitals without testing them and failing to ensure adequate PPE for the homes.

The risk to people in the community under 75 with no health conditions has always been low and is now extremely low simply due to the number of people with the virus falling.

The risk now is certainly not sufficient to justify keeping us all locked up and not opening hospitality and all retail outlets (not this outdoor entrance nonsense) in a sensible and phased way. A few weeks' delay will cost jobs and we cannot afford that with already the worst unemployment in the U.K. at the moment.

It's almost like she is making sure the SNP tank the next elections so they don't have to get on with the 'day job' of running Scotland and go back to bitching from the side lines

As I've said I have voted SNP in the past but they are making a right fuck up of schools and lockdown that they are really pissing me off

@Bartlet you know nothing at all about me except that I don't have the same political views as you. I'm not wanting to be outing but critical data analysis is part of my job. I'm generally considered very capable at that thank you.
I've been following the Scottish health data compared to the UK data since March. We hit UK Lockdown just as the exponential curve was taking off in London. It was 2-4 weeks behind depending on where you live in the rest of the UK and Scotland.
Nobody likes being restricted. Some people are very scared others are keen to get back to normal. I don't have a problem with either view but I do have a problem with people blaming the SNP for everything and it's really prevalent on Mumsnet.
Funnily enough the SNP and Nicola keep getting people's votes.
More than any other party in Scotland.
I can't understand that if everybody thinks they are so awful

I’m raging that people can apparently travel as far as they like to see friends or family but we’re still not allowed any more than 5 miles to do exercise. I want to take my kids away from horrendously busy city parks to much quieter areas to cycle and walk but am massively restricted. It’s ludicrous.

They get people's votes @upstar for the same reason people still support Brexit and Trump. The 'cause' is bigger than everything and her supporters ignore the evidence and facts.

I think today's announcement was very good, but I'm a yes voter and think the first minister is doing a bloody good job. I'm so glad we aren't being led by Westminster.

But grateful for the financial support from Westminster none the less ssd?

When NS laid out her roadmap there were 3 phases. Fair enough. We got through phase 1. Today, the eagerly anticipated phase 2 is now phases 2a, 2b and 2c. Goal posts moved at the expense of business owners and the economy.

Does she really think that people are even listening to her anymore? Everyone I know is meeting friends and relatives, outside and inside, travelling more than 5 miles to do so. We are doing this because we understand 2m, are able to wash our hands, and are afraid for our mental health after being under house arrest for so long. there are over 5 million people in Scotland and what, 26 in ICU with Covid symptoms? Even by my crappy maths that’s about 0.0000052% of the population! And we are supposed to stay at home, not get back to work, and wait for the wee dictator to tell us when we can start getting our lives back?

@dementedma. Does NS genuinely think that anyone apart from her acolytes and the Covid paranoiacs are actually followed her desperately complicated restricted rules? I was very compliant at first but then when I read more and realised the transmission risk outside was tiny and that children were unaffected then I let my kids go and play with all the others at the park.

When NS laid out her roadmap there were 3 phases. Fair enough. We got through phase 1. Today, the eagerly anticipated phase 2 is now phases 2a, 2b and 2c. Goal posts moved at the expense of business owners and the economy

This x1000. Don't tell us what you're going to do and then change it for utterly no conceivable reason. So many bar owners have planned for outdoor opening but no, no reason given, just no. So much for a bloody adult conversation. I think I'll be taking my wee ones to the swings. DH said the swing park near us was rammed today. We're three weeks since lockdown was eased and everyone headed for Loch Lomond and there has been no rise in cases. She's going to have to let us out at some point.

She kicked the hospitality industry in the teeth today. Every week that there is a delay more people will lose their jobs. Why does she not seem to care about the economy or education? She’s nuts.