First ministers briefing

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Is there one on today? If so what time will it be? Thanks

My point is they need the schools back! And other services working without doom.

Only 2of the 15 health boards in Scotland have more than 5people in ICU with Covid, so it depends where you live whether you are really likely to meet covid patients in hospital

Yes, where I live there is some I think, but it's really the logistics of how I could deal with my child as well as the doom laden letter.

I just really think schools should be going back not this blended learning pish, and it should be sooner rather than later. Children have a right to education and to see friends.

She's giving us a right telling off today. Naughty, naughty, we saw you up at Loch Lomond when we said not to, if you do it again we will punish you, I'm in charge, do as I say.

What happened to the "adult conversation"?

So fucking pissed off with the Loch Lomond brigade. It'll end up being illegal to travel further than 5 miles and when my holidays come in two weeks we'll be unable to go and visit my brother in law or even go for a fucking picnic even locally since car parks are shut.

One person interviewed seemed to think he wasn't the problem since though he'd driven up to Luss from beardsden, him and his friends had travelled in one car and tried to stay distanced which was difficult since it was busy.... Give me fucking strength.

Half these folk will be happy to say that us Scots are superior and better than everyone else.

Rant over!

Sockyarn, that was just a sound bite.

I'm happy to make my own adult decisions within or outwith the guidance but if it becomes law I don't have that option.

We've not done anything more than we were doing before, we were saving our meet ups with family and travels for leisure until our holidays in two weeks.

Bunch of selfish wankers.

It seems to be that all this wailing from Sturgeon about people breaking the rules is a convenient distraction from the real issue here- testing.

Only 2700 tests performed yesterday on 937 people. Sturgeon has known since March that a test and trace system is the only way out of lockdown.

Why is is still not working 3 months later and why are we still testing far fewer people on a per capita basis than England? And why are our test figures going down rather than up?

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-testing-falls-scotland-criticism-22121066

I agree re testing, but there wouldn't be a distraction available if people weren't such arseholes.

I think most people are pretty good really. But why do the cult followers not question the lack of testing?

I just can't get worked up about people driving 15 miles instead of 5 to go for a walk in a nicer environment, so long as they socially distance.

It's all very well for people who live in beauty spots to tell visitors to keep out, but with the greatest respect, the residents do not own their areas and they have no right to dictate who can and can't visit.

Why should someone in the centre of Glasgow be forced to exercise in the middle of a housing scheme having to constantly dodge out of others' way when they could drive a short distance to somewhere quieter.

I must confess, I can't get worked up about the Loch Lomond affaire either.
I don't live in a beauty spot, but yesterday while cycling I saw plenty of groups of people, plus a party with about 15 youths along the canal.

Why should someone in the centre of Glasgow be forced to exercise in the middle of a housing scheme having to constantly dodge out of others' way when they could drive a short distance to somewhere quieter.

I don't disagree but when you turn up at a popular beauty spot and it's hoaching then you fuck off somewhere else as it's obviously not "quieter". You also consider that travelling further distances means that you are more likely to need the toilet, not too much of an issue if you are in the middle of nowhere but when you are at a beach or village etc and you start having a shite in the woods or pishing in folks gardens then I very much get worked up about it.

I also get worked up about it when their selfish actions might mean that restrictions are tightened further and other folk don't get an opportunity to lawfully exert their own common sense. I couldn't at this point give a shiny shite if they all catch it and end up in hospital.

There is no excuse for being a selfish cunt.

It's really unlikely people will catch it outdoors.

Yes Mascotte, it is but that's not the point, it's much more likely to be caught from human faeces etc which they are happy to leave lying around.

I'm more concerned that I want to be able to visit my probably terminal brother in law who lives a hour and a half away but if they decide to make more than local travel illegal, I risk getting stopped doing that whereas it's (sort off) allowable within the guidance.

I'm comfortable that people can make sensible choices that are outwith the guidance. But people aren't making sensible choices, they are being selfish cunts.

When the numbers go up, people who wanted to walk in their own countryside will be blamed. And it won't be anything to do with them.

5 miles is nonsense and wildly unscientific. It also comes from a city dweller, clearly. 5 miles gives NS a whole city. It wouldn't even give some people a small shop.

Why not 6 miles? Or 10? Because she is drunk on telling people what to do.

How do people visit grandparents or garden centres or play golf within 5 miles? Might as well tell us to stay locked up.

And yet fit, healthy people who want to go for a walk in the hills are being treated like criminals.

And as for the moaners on the news who have got used to Luss bring their little kingdom. Really? You bought a house, not an entire wilderness.

Dundee has the highest number of people with no outside space. They are far safer driving 15 miles into the Angus Glens than jamming together in the parks.

I have had enough of this. I really have.

I've had enough too and will avoid rolling in faeces on my outings.

I agree we should be able to go further and walk in the countryside but that's not what people did though was it? They did exactly the opposite and all decided to go to the same small place and then moaned when it was busy. Do none of these people have an original thought in their head?

We are always being told that Glasgow has more green space than any other city so the need to get out to Luss in order to get fresh air is really not one I'm buying.

Like all of us, people craved a change of scenery but decided to be brainless twats and all go to the same fucking place.

I hate sturgeon and I think some things are over the top and I've seen evidence of folk from places that are normal tourist spots moaning that "strangers" are darkening their door. Not so unhappy to have the businesses that tourist money pays for though.

So I do have sympathy but there is no need for people to be so fucking selfish in their behaviour.

Not rolling in the shite either 😂😂😂😂

I’m not sure how NS can justify continuing lockdown with the current numbers of positive tests that are being published. Yesterday just 1 in nhsggc which covers a population of 1.17million. Western isles have had no cases for almost 2 months. I struggle to see how our continued lockdown can be justifiable. If the numbers are suspected to be higher then sort out the testing and stop making the Scottish people pay the price.

NRS release the numbers today and it will be very interesting to see what they say. Both in terms of COVID deaths and ‘other’ excess deaths.

@WaxOnFeckOff the difficulty is that the people who went to Luss are the same folk that have been meeting up through lockdown. They will probably also be the same people that think NS is doing a great job whilst ignoring her

I’m not sure how NS can justify continuing lockdown with the current numbers of positive tests that are being published.

She can justify it on the grounds that it sets her apart from what Boris is doing. She's the caring, sharing face of Covid, she is taking the needs of Scotland seriously while those nasty Tories only care about money, none of this having fun here nonsense, we are different, we are special, we are separate.

Everything is playing into her end game.

Of course she can't justify it, just the same as she can't justify the "blended learning" shite they've come up with. But the problem is that loads of people are lapping it up and her approval ratings have never been higher so there's no way that she'll be changing her message and risk that with an election next year. No way.

@sockyarn
Nail on head hit

It sounds as though England will effectively have blended learning after summer anyway - at least there hasn’t been any pretence here that things will get back to normal before autumn. Must be very difficult to have been given false hope / pressure on schools to achieve the unachievable...

I don't see why they can't loosen things up in the Highlands, while being stricter in the Central Belt. Other countries are doing this.

Absolutely agree that it’s madness that some regions are still under lockdown with virtually no cases - it’s delaying other treatments and economic recovery for literally no benefit. I do suspect that the reason we’re ‘not ready’ has less to do with community spread (it seems to mostly be in hospitals and care homes) and more to do with our tracing system not being up to scratch. The lack of testing in Scotland has been an issue from the start and Scot gov seems totally unable to get on top of it, with relative testing levels falling further and further behind the rest of the U.K. They can’t admit that though, hence the ‘responsible matron’ act instead, and people seem to be lapping it up.

They can’t admit that though, hence the ‘responsible matron’ act instead, and people seem to be lapping it up.

Whilst actively ignoring it.