Politics again, pathetic behaviour Glasgow City Centre

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It's not being reported who is behind it but it certainly looks the same as some of the incidents during the Indy campaign.

Whoever/whatever, it's ridiculous to behave like that IMO.

Handy that someone was there with a birds eye view with a camera though

Behooven they turned them off for 420, possibly on the basis what the eye doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve over .

I've found it pays to check any public webcams as they let you see what has really happened, not the slant or camera angle the journalists have chosen. They are paid to make things seem more dramatic than they are.

I met Nicola today, there was no trouble, no negativity at all, and she was truly lovely.
Whether you agree with her or not, she is fantastic, talked to everyone, made sure everyone got a selfie and was just amazing.

No, the trouble was taking place in Glasgow. Fortunately for Nicola, the other sides' supporters don't behave the way that some of hers do.

Where ws that photo taken, tribpot? It doesn't look anything like George Square to me.

The stramash today wasn't in George Square, it was outside an underground station, St Enoch I think.

Why was Sean Culkin told about the event by Jim's ain folk?

St Enoch Square would make sense because it has that central red sandstone building plus places to take that photo from.

The whole thing is embarrassing

It was St Enoch. It was one of Murphys stage managed soap box speeches (this time with Izzard). The labour lot had megaphones, the anti-labour lot had a PA system playing appropriate music. Murphy is just trolling +and has been for weeks) hoping he can get some anti-SNP press - due to labour tipping of Clerkin today he succeeded.

The only pushing and shoving I have seen from the footage was labour activists trying to push the guy on the PA bike out of the way.

The quisling and elderly stuff mentioned up thread has been taken very out of context. Do your own research and dont just believe the carefully selected sound bites in the press.

Quisling and elderly stuff taken out of context? Do explain how that could actually be justified in any context - I'd love to hear it. Neil Hay has since apologised - you can read more about the charmer here www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/snp-candidate-sorry-over-twitter-trolling-1-3751958

As for the predictable stage managed claim - sheesh. Is it another conspiracy?

Why is it acceptable for them to turn up with a PA and try to disrupt another party's campaigning?

And in what context is it OK to say that some elderly voters don't know their own names but can still vote - even if you disagree with their choice?

I think that the real issue in a lot of these incidents, isn't what actually happens, but the way it is reported in the press using very emotive language. If you stand on a soapbox you really must be expecting g to be heckled whatever your political persuasion. My real problem is with the offensive language used particularly on the net about candidates & policies, political debate is reduced to a slaging match by all sides. & I am fed up with trolls hijacking the debate.

I'm fed up with it to - but it still continues. Would you go into politics (esp. through in Glasow), or encourage any of your family or friends to? I certainly wouldn't. Politicians should expect an amount of heckling, but this is vicious - far, far worse than anything I have seen in my 46 years.

Why is it acceptable for them to turn up with a PA and try to disrupt another party's campaigning?

Its a public place. There have been hecklers at all of the public events (including SNPs). Why should the Labour Party be more deserving of freedom of speech than those heckling?

Re the elderly Its not a particularly nice thing to say, but it's not untrue, or abusive. This was one tweet, from years ago, carefully dug up by the media, and presented in the worst possible light.

You dont see abusive unionist tweets given quite the same scrutiny for some reason.

Whichever version of the event is the truth, it's an embarassment.

I really wish Scottish labour had appointed someone other than Jim Murphy as leader, he's not doing them any favours.

3 years ago - hardly that long ago. Not sure about you Going, but I have never, ever referred to, or thought about older people in that way. I would also never think of people who disagreed with my political viewpoint as a quisling, with all its Nazi references. If I were standing for election I'd be even less inclined to.

As for "it's not untrue" - that's right, older people living with a range of complex conditions sometimes don't remember their own names. It can be extremely distressing for them and their families and as such, it's not something that I'd ever mock - but obviously I have better judgement than Mr Hay.

The BBC interviewed the man who organised today's shameful episode and he was proud of his behaviour, and boasted that democracy was dead - in answer to the question about how his actions promoted democracy.

I would be scared to face the aggressive nationalists - I was very careful about who knew I was supporting the 'No' campaign last year - I did not dare display a sticker or poster. Much has been made of how much more vocal and prominent the 'Yes' campaign was - and I think it was, in large part, because many 'No' voters felt as I did, and did not want to arouse the ire of the nationalists.

I know they are a tiny minority - but the fact that they are not dealt with more firmly by their party leadership reflects badly on the whole party.

It's just not acceptable at all, I mean the heckling and the crappy tweets.
I see on tinter-web all the apologists and conspiracy theorists are mobilised.

I would also never think of people who disagreed with my political viewpoint as a quisling, with all its Nazi references. If I were standing for election I'd be even less inclined to

He never called anyone a quisling He tweeted a link to an article on a satirical website. The only things in the tweet were the link and the title of the article bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/53-quislings.html

It's just not acceptable at all, the crappy tweets.

I agree about the tweets. There have been many, many tweets from the unionist side that are well over any line...

Well he wasn't retweeting it to condemn it, was he? To me, it seems pretty clear that he tweeted it because he thinks it is funny and apt. And calling 'No' voters/Unionists quislings is not funny.

Agree SDT - it was perfectly clear why he tweeted quisling. The older people comments are beyind the pale - iirc there was also something about dying out too.

I'm hiding the thread and all other political ones til it's over. Last year I got drawn in and I'm not doing it again. Let me be clear though itsall my view is the nationalists have a nasty seam running through them and the SNP are not discouraging them at all.

I know. These threads always go the same way.

Unionists: despicable cybernats trolling the internet,, inciting violence and hatred.

Pro-indy: but but but, list numerous examples of where unionists have displayed exactly the same characteristics.

Conclusion: Numpties on both sides should be ignored.