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No support from my mother, is this normal? *content warning* (post edited by MNHQ)

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Zelda7 · 15/07/2023 20:00

Hi, I’m 45.
3 days ago I returned back from a holiday to Turkey. I went with my 67 year old mother whom I love dearly.
unfortunately I was sexually assaulted while on holiday. I wasn’t raped, however I was penetrated with his fingers.
At first I didn’t want to tell my mother because I didn’t want to upset her. However I finally did tell her. She encouraged me to involve police. I was in such a state as nothing like this has ever happened to me.
I involved police, who arrested the man. We spent a day giving statements & I had to be examined at the hospital.
The hotel manager was absolutely furious that we had informed police & the FCDO. We moved hotels after this. ( The attack was carried out by an employee of the hotel)
Whilst we were in Turkey, my mother was supportive.
I have two sisters. One is 3 years older than me , the other 14 years younger than me.
The youngest has always been favoured, she admits this herself. I thought I was extremely close to both of them.
when my big sister heard of the attack, her reply was, what do you expect visiting such countries?……. I’m astounded by her lack of compassion.
My little sister was extremely supportive until the last night.
On the last night I broke, it’s all a bit of a blur because I had a really bad panic attack. I couldn’t even speak. Anyway my mother went out to buy presents alone. My little sister was extremely annoyed at me for letting my mother go alone. I thought she would be a 100% safe as it was light & a really busy pedestrianised shopping area. The police station was there also & we had been there the night before. It turns out that apparently my mother didn’t feel safe. I don’t know if this is because of my little sister’s influence as she really is golden child & my mother will stand by her opinions no matter what.
Regardless of this i can’t begin to tell you the guilt I feel because my mother said she didn’t feel safe.
Since coming back home I’m a total mess over what’s happened & my sisters comment. I haven’t left my room, spoken to friends ect. I have an amazing 23 year old daughter however I don’t want to put all this on her.
Yesterday I txt my mother in the morning, “ Please help me Mam, I’m not coping “ I didn’t have a reply until around 8 in the evening. In that she was telling me I just need to let things go.
I’m astonished by her being like this to me, as I’m the one who cares about everyone & will do anything so there aren’t arguments. My big sister resents my mother because my little sister is treated so differently. I mean my mother see’s her daily, constantly rings her ect.
Am I right to be upset because my mother hasn’t bothered to check on me whatsoever despite me asking please help me ?
I only wanted someone to talk too. My mother isn’t an old 66 year old either, she drives, babysits. Travels to Zurich alone to visit my big sister, goes shopping on her own ect. I live 5 mins by car from her.
I would really value people’s advice because I’m thinking am I better off with no involvement or minimal contact now because I just feel so letdown & that’s without trying to come to terms with the assault. I did speak to a national helpline today.
I just thought my mother would care & be there for me as she knows the impact this has had on me. I feel a rubbish/ pathetic human as i can’t just let it go as my mother wants me too right now, god knows I wish I could. It’s only been 8 days since it happened to me.

OP posts:
Sprinkl3 · 15/07/2023 20:22

OP none of this is your fault and you certainly aren't getting the support you need. Well done you for calling a national helpline today, you really must consider therapy to allow some healing.
Regarding your useless mother and sisters, I wouldn't make any permanent decisions with things so fresh but I certainly think you need to step back and have some time away from them so you can focus on yourself. Maybe their behaviour during that interim will help inform you further

Zelda7 · 15/07/2023 20:24

Sprinkl3, Thank you very much for your comment x

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PrincessIntrovert · 15/07/2023 20:28

Sorry to slate your family OP but you are surrounded by a bunch of cunts. What has happened to you is absolutely horrific. Do you have a trusted friend? My Mother would be fucking tearing up concrete if this had happened to me, yours should be too. Some things can be brushed under the carpet - this shit isn't one of them x

Zelda7 · 15/07/2023 20:40

PrincessIntrovert…… I’m not sure if I’m replying correctly ( format I mean)
Thank you for your comment. I’m such a mess I was thinking am I being too sensitive. Yes i have got a really close friend & their back off their holiday on Monday , so I’ll have them then to turn too. Thanks again x

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Scarfweather · 15/07/2023 20:50

You are not being oversensitive OP and I’m so sorry you have experienced what you did.
I had a textbook narcissist mother, but even she would have swooped in to make a big thing about supporting me, if something like that had happened - for the adulation and saviour complex, obviously.
Do you have close friend/s you might talk to? Otherwise I’d speak with your GP and see what talking support you might get. Make use of helplines or if you are in the financial position, a few sessions with a therapist.

I’d start to distance myself from these relatives who do not have your best interests at heart. You may love them (as I did mine) but they will only ever disappoint you.
Big hugs to you. As time passes, the acute emotion will lessen Xx

Seaoftroubles · 15/07/2023 20:52

OP, l am so sorry this happened to you and that you are not getting the family support you need. It was extremely unfair of your mother to share with your sisters that she felt unsafe, especially after your horrific ordeal.She need not have gone out and its not your fault she chose to do so. Nothing bad happened to her and to me this looks like attention seeking. Also your sister is quite honestly a very nasty piece of work to blame you at a time when she should be comforting you.
I would definitely be distancing myself and l actually would consider sharing your upset with your daughter, at 23 think she's quite old enough to comfort and support you. I would also seek counselling to help you process and heal from this, and l would go low contact with your family. You deserved so much better from them.

Zelda7 · 15/07/2023 20:55

Scarfweather…… I’m sobbing reading your message. Thank you so so much for making me feel normal as have the other comments.
I will definitely see my GP on Monday & look into therapy. Huge thank you again xxx

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Backstreets · 15/07/2023 20:55

Very sorry to hear this happened to you op, and that your family has handled it so insensitively.

Zelda7 · 15/07/2023 20:56

Backstreets…… thank you for your kind words xx

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xyz111 · 15/07/2023 20:59

To buy presents? Because it's a holiday you'll all want to remember? You're family sound awful Op, I'm so sorry this has happened to you. Are they no supportive a lot of the time? I would find the lack of support unforgivable and would be seriously reducing contact.

Zelda7 · 15/07/2023 21:01

Seaoftroubles……. I totally understand & agree with your comment & advice.
Thank you so very much, as I replied to another comment, hearing this makes me feel sort of normal & that I’m not being ultra sensitive. Thank you again xxx

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ferntwist · 15/07/2023 21:01

You poor thing OP. You’ve done absolutely nothing wrong and your mother and younger sister are behaving atrociously. I wonder if there could be some issue with you being the focus because of the assault, rather than your little sister as usual?

And it makes me so angry to hear the hotel manager gave you a hard time for reporting the incident. He should be apologising profusely and thanking you for ensuring he can get rid of this member of staff so it never happens to another guest.

You sound like a lovely person and I am sending you strength and hugs. I hope you have other good people around you to help you recover from this.

AP5Diva · 15/07/2023 21:03

I’m sorry you went through the sexual assault. I would only add a small plea for your mother in that she may have been a victim herself and so unable to help you because it brings back too much for her. I’ve been raped and assaulted and I find it impossible to help others because I start getting flashbacks and I don’t want to make it all about me when my experiences were long ago and a woman/daughter/friend has just gone through similar.

TomatoSandwiches · 15/07/2023 21:05

I'm so sorry you have been let down by your family op, sometimes this is worse than the actual attack that caused your distress.
If you were my daughter I would have not left your side to trot off and buy presents and then subtly condemn you for my choice to go out alone and certainly tried to get you support when back home.

I think giving them head space will hurt more for now, just take a step back from engaging with them and see your GP about some talking therapies or other help available and concentrate on yourself for now.

Wishing you the best x

Zelda7 · 15/07/2023 21:08

xyz111…… Thank you for your comment. At the moment my head is all over the place with everything. I’ve forgiven a lot in the past but I really don’t know if I’ll be able to with this despite to my detriment loving them all too bits. I know I sound pathetic. This though has really changed me & atm I most definitely wouldn’t want to see any of them, i can’t see that ever changing xx

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BlowMyBubbles · 15/07/2023 21:09

@Zelda7 I'm so sorry that this has happened to you, but want to say how brave you were to go to the police/hospital.

The simple line for me is that if your mother didn't feel safe going out to buy gifts she shouldn't have gone. Tbh one would expect most mothers to stay with their dc when they've had a traumatic experience not prioritise gift buying. So I'm sorry your family are less than supporting and have been such dicks. I'd definitely think about cutting contact, at least for now to heal and protect yourself.

It is no way the same as I wasn't sexually assaulted, but a couple of years a go I was attacked in my home by a stranger off his head on drugs. It took a long time, 9 months or more, for my flight or fight response to quell again. I was on constant high alert and it was mentally exhausting. It was almost worse thsn the actual attack as i had no rest. Please speak with a GP when you feel able to find help to process what has happened and the support to cope with it. Look after yourself x

Crikeyalmighty · 15/07/2023 21:20

@Zelda7 hate to ask but were you at the hotel spa? My SIL had an identical experience a few years ago - unfortunately for them she's police in the UK!!

Suzi89 · 15/07/2023 21:27

l actually would consider sharing your upset with your daughter, at 23 think she's quite old enough to comfort and support you.

This is completely inappropriate and unfair on the daughter. It’s not her job to take on this burden and parent her own mother because her other relatives are awful.

Suzi89 · 15/07/2023 21:28

Your mother sounds so toxic, having a strop because she chose to go out and felt unsafe when nothing bad even happened to her. I’d be distancing myself.

OSunt2123 · 15/07/2023 21:33

God what a nightmare for you
I'm so sorry, you are well within your right to feel angry, disappointed and unsupported, you've been let down and you've been assaulted. This is such a reminder, that people, family can be so so incredibly disappointing when push comes to shove. If you have any other family or friends that are supportive of you, hold them closer because your family have certainly pushed you away. You deserve more than this! Absolute dickheads & your mother is giving me NARCISSISTIC vibes

Seaoftroubles · 15/07/2023 21:34

Zelda, in no way are you over sensitive, and certainly not pathetic, quite the opposite! You have every right to feel traumatised by your horrible ordeal and have been very brave reporting it and enduring everything that followed. I am glad you say you have a close friend you can confide in, please do so and also please do speak to your G.P re advice and support. Lean on your friend and your daughter, you sound like a lovely person and now need people around you who love and care about you. Sending you best wishes, please prioritise self care now and look after yourself so you can heal and recover. Xx

Seaoftroubles · 15/07/2023 21:44

@Suzi89 l wasn't suggesting her daughter step in and 'parent' the OP. Merely that she could give her some love and comfort as her own family were lacking.

mathanxiety · 15/07/2023 21:54

Your mother is a narcissist who couldn't stand the idea that you would get some attention after being attacked, so she created a drama about 'feeling unsafe' when she chose to go out to buy presents in the evening.

Clearly the whole family have been conditioned to or it around her, and you are not being punished for asking for care after suffering the attack.

I urge you to go to your nearest rape crisis centre, where you can get support.

I also urge you to find a therapist who can help you figure out how to deal with your dysfunctional family and free yourself from the toxic dynamic that has been created by your mother.

mathanxiety · 15/07/2023 21:54

Or it = orbit

AP5Diva · 15/07/2023 21:58

Hey we don’t know the mother’s own history and what traumas she may have had herself. These are things that come with a life sentence. I’m not sure it is fair to condemn her for choosing not to support when it is very possible she actually cannot support the OP even if she wanted to.

Yes OP needs and deserves support, but it doesn’t necessarily follow that her mum can do it.

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