INFJ anyone?

[alwayssearchingforanswers]

I test INFJ on the Myers Briggs personality testing score and wanted to hear from any others who are INFJ,in particular to chat about relationships.
I tend to have an open,friendly front with plenty of friends but then also have this hidden huge part of me with intense feelings and complicated beliefs about people and things...I often struggle with these two parts of me and often feel like different people on different days

I am INTP

But that could cahnge if I was in a different mood...

Oh FFS! I had a look at one of these and it's basically the same old con - answer the question 'Are you more tidy or untidy?' you give the answer and the result goes 'You are more tidy/untidy' depending on what you ALREADY TOLD THEM.

Glad you liked the ideas, alwayssearching

I was a bit worried, as my view of such things is similar to SGB's! Your posts said you have a certain measure of inner conflict - so I responded to that rather than the "letters after your name".

Now there's a thought! Ms. Grace Available, BA, ENTP. Hmmm ...

The worrying thing, though, is that some employers still use this kind of thing to assess their staff. The only reason I know what "I am" is because my old company used to drag this up at team meetings every so often and we'd all be herded into our various groups. I was the only woman in my group which I thought odd. I do work in a male dominated environment but there were enough of us to get an even spread across the groups, I'd have thought.

Mind you, the more this crap gets mainstreamed as a job opportunity tool, the more online crib sheets will pop up, charing you even more money for the 'right' answers to such tests. That's the thing with woo-bollocks, it's an absolute money breeder, if you have the front to peddle it properly.

SGB, the MBTI actually has a very solid base in psychology - it's based on the work of Carl Jung. It's not the least bit woo and is a very helpful counselling and coaching tool.

The problem is in misuse of application not the MBTI itself. This is something to get cross about as it undermines the legitimacy of reliable and valid tests (in fact, even using the word test is wrong here). It should never, ever be used for job selection as it has no relevance in determining ability, only preferences in behaviour.

It can have some use in giving people more insight into themselves and others and how those preferences may effect their day to day lives. Funnily enough, not everybody is very self aware and MBTI is very useful in helping people think and reflect on who they are and why.

alwayssearching, I'm INTP but very borderline N and P. Are you always searching for answers by the way?

Grace had good advice, one of the ways to help when you get in a tiz and/or feel misunderstood is to write things down. And another thing to remember is that, being an I, you won't often express what you think or feel - if you can even access that for yourself. This can be very difficult for other people who may well project their own thought processes on to you and make assumptions - very natural thing to do - hence you can find yourself being misunderstood and possibly very hurt that someone hasn't seen the real you iyswim. The key is really taking time to determine how you feel about something, why you feel that way, and saying it. And that's not always easy but the more you practice it, the more you'll get used to it.

ILGH: Crap. Jung was a woo-peddler, for starters. Amd psychology, while interesting, is hardly a precise science and it is certainly a very politicized one. All psychology is affected by the prejudices of the time - and of the psychologist doing the particular work (which is why Freud had some useful-ish insights and a lot of horrendously misogynistic, toxic theories that have now been thoroughly discredited) - he was a coke-addled nitwit in an intensely sexist environment.

ROFL at the proposition that being based on the work of Jung is a "sound base" for anything.

SGB is clearly a Scorpio.

Cat: Wrong. Want another go? You now have a one -in 11 chance of being right...

In truth, I could go through the other 11 and yours would be the last one - I don't have a clue on woo stuff!

I think my personality type is ROFL.

I don't know if the idea about MBTI being used for job interviews came from me saying I used it for a career change ~ that was just for guidance for my own benefit.

I thought companies/unis used something else,called psychometric testing to assess candidates/see how they would react in certain circumstances etc.

SGB...did you do the test and come out as a sociopath or something?

Ilovegregory ~ thanks for the advice,I think sometimes although I am very communicative I just think other people can read my mind as I can read theirs [in general terms obviously]
yes am always searching for answers, are you too?

Hey Always.

I think that we just have to conclude that there are certain Myers Briggs types who are more likely to be sceptical than others. Obviously, there will be posters here among them.

We don't need to reply directly to them. Just ignore (based on the knowledge that nothing we or anyone else might say will make any difference). Unless you enjoy the debate of course...

It doesn't matter whether they believe MB to be of value or not - you know it is of value to you personally whether or not anyone else thinks so.

If you want to carry on discussing it with like-minded people (and I'm game), then we just have to put up with argumentative posters. We can't make them go away. We can't convince them. But we can ignore them.

Whatcha think?

We've done MBTI at work, and I found it quite helpful. Not the be-all-and-end-all, or the answers to everything, but a bit of an indication. I took the test feeling very incredulous, but found I did gain some deeper understanding of myself from it. It wouldn't necessarily be as helpful for everyone.

My issue with it is that people only remember their own type, and -if you're lucky- their spouses. (Easy in our case as I'm INTJ and DH is ENTJ) Remembering what work colleagues or wider family members are (if they know) is difficult, as is remembering the different descriptions.

well

I guess I find it irritating that someone can write in an ill informed illogical way about something being illogical and nonsensical.

I don't particularly hold up MBTI as being fact,it is a sort of grouping of people based on the answers they give...and it is easy to choose your answers if you want to,but the point is they are a series of questions designed to narrow down what sort of person you are.

The part I find difficult is the I or E part...I am split quite close to 50 50 so I live in my head but like seeing lots of people...

Anyway...

One thing I have noticed lately is I think my thoughts must be very obvious to others,but they aren't,or at least only to similar people iykwim

I'm an INFJ. just marking my place (and then going off to do something creative and solitary)

Hi persephone

I had that as my old mn name!

ENTJ

That is not even slightly like me

how bizarre!

I have a book at home that I think might be of interest - can't remember the title just now ( am away for a few days..) I'll update in the next few days - but it's about being an isolationist who can occasionally venture into wider human contact - I'm really picky in my relationships, have few friends but very close and intense, very happy with my own company, but occasionally yearn for a little more normality, because i think in some respects that would be easier...

i am an extroverted introvert apparently sospend a lot of time thinking,reading etc but need people a lot too

I am an introverted introvert!

always - out of interest, are you religious?

ISTP Here!