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Womans Aid

57 replies

Charlotteswebb · 02/06/2010 08:51

Can someone tell me how Womans Aid work? Do you just chat to them on the phone?

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NicknameTaken · 03/06/2010 15:23

I didn't tell him! I came home from work one lunchtime, threw some belongings into a couple of suitcases, took DD out of nursery and took a taxi to a refuge. And yes, I felt hideously guilty. The morning I knew I was going, I couldn't stop myself rolling over in bed to hold him. If he'd hugged me back, I might have confessed everything. Luckily he didn't respond at all.

While I was in the taxi speeding away, he called me on my mobile to say that his job contract had been extended and we'd celebrate that evening. I thought I might actually die from sheer guilt.

That's when I found my diary came in useful. Every time I felt guilty I'd go back over it - this is what he did, and then he did that and so on. This is why I had to make the decision.

I never pictured myself as someone who would have to escape abuse, but if I ever had, there's no way I would have imagined me feeling like the guilty one.

NicknameTaken · 03/06/2010 15:25

Oh yes, he said all those things to me as well. According to him I was abusing him all the time.

Sometimes you have to take the action (getting out) and wait for your emotions to catch up (knowing in your heart as well as your head that it was necessary).

Charlotteswebb · 03/06/2010 15:28

I have to go soon, we too are celebrating..but Nick are you and DD happy now, and safe?

Thank you everyone for your repliesxx

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NicknameTaken · 03/06/2010 15:32

Yes, we're doing well. I only stayed in the refuge for three weeks before finding a flat. DD now sees her father regularly. Co-parenting can be sometimes stressful. He still goes into rages or sulks at me, but I'm just thankful that I don't have to wake up beside him and deal with it every day. Life is too short to tiptoe around in fear.

Good luck!

NicknameTaken · 03/06/2010 16:19

Just to add - of course I believe in being open and honourable with a partner. But once they threaten to hurt you, those rules don't apply any more.

MrsDrOwenHunt · 03/06/2010 20:21

nickname glad u r finally free x
charlotte babe there willl be days where it will be the best it has ever been but its just a mirage, no matter that he doesnt hit you yet, dv isnt just about physical violence. you
say that he is your best friend? would a best friend treat you the same way? hai there are still days now that i think i overeacted but the small things that add up. gianteur you are an inspiration to me still and to all the ladies on here what you went through and have come out at the end as shows me what a strong woman really is xxx (ps you is very fit too!!!)

BertieBotts · 03/06/2010 21:10

Hello - don't have much to add but had to post as I had the same thing when I left my XP - felt awfully guilty, hugged him extra tight in the morning, etc. I was unlucky and he came back when I was packing up. It was horrible, but not as bad as I was expecting. In the car on the way to my new place (my mum was driving) I just cried all the way. I felt sad, and raw, for a good few days, even though in my mind the relationship had ended long before. I just felt sad for him and kept thinking of the empty house and just feeling... sad.

But actually, you know what? It was, weirdly, nice to feel that raw emotion, in a way it was amazing just to be able to have that. When I was in the relationship, I was just numb all the time. So for those few days of feeling awful about the relationship ending I just kind of went with it and allowed myself to feel sad. And after that I found it a lot easier to move on. I am 6 months on now and I have zero feelings for my ex at all.

TimeForMe · 03/06/2010 21:51

Hi there Womens Aid are wonderful!

I was in contact with them for 2 years before I got the courage to leave. Well actually, courage had nothing to do with it, it was sheer desperation. Within 10 minutes of hanging up the phone from speaking to a support worker I received a call back telling me a place in a refuge had been found for me and DD.

The very next day I collected DD from school at lunchtime and we were on our way to the refuge. They sent a mini bus to collect us and as many of our belongings I could take. Upon our arrival we were met at the door by the most warmest, friendliest faces I had seen in a long time. A cup of coffee was placed in my hand and DD was taken care of by the child support worker while I got some much needed support.

We stayed at the refuge for a little over three months and I can honestly say it was a wonderful experience.

DD and I are now living in our own little house with a lovely garden in a lovely village and we are both extremely happy. I will never ever regret leaving and going into refuge, what I do regret is not doing it sooner

Charlotteswebb · 04/06/2010 09:16

Goodness ladies, your words are an inspiration.I rang WA and yes they were supportive and caring and encouraging.
No Mrs D my best friend wouldnt say anything like that to me.
Time for me and BB, thank you for your stories.Even though I dont know who you are, I can picture happy children in a pretty garden because I have imagined it so many times myself.
It is just really really awesome to know there are ladies out there in the world who have been through all of this and more, and have the courage and kindness to share it with me.

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Lemonylemon · 04/06/2010 10:20

Charlotte:

I left my DS's Dad without telling him when I was going. I did it one day after getting the mortgage/equity sorted as we'd already agreed to split.

He used to say terrible things to me and it's funny, because I forget a lot of it until I read threads like this and it all comes back. Threads like this reiterate the reasons why it was the right thing to do.

As others have suggested, keep a diary, because if you don't have it there in black and white, you will forget.

My son is now a fairly well adjusted typical 13 year old... I don't regret for one second getting us out of the situation with his Dad.....

Courage to you. x

NicknameTaken · 04/06/2010 12:02

Hurray, Charlotte! Well done on taking that step. Will be thinking of you!

TimeForMe · 04/06/2010 14:20

Well done Charlotte I am very proud of you!!

I am sat in my lovely garden, under my parasol enjoying the sun, the peace and harmony while typing this to you I can highly recommend it!

MrsDrOwenHunt · 04/06/2010 20:03

i am also pleased you have taken the first step i love my flat and today i spent with my friends and kids and had a paddling pool out and picnic, i would never have been this happy 2 years ago, i also met some of my best friends in the refuge and feel nearly me again xx

QueenofWhatever · 05/06/2010 20:48

Just been away for a few days and I'm so glad to have come back to see that you're still here and have spoken to WA.

Your post on Thursday struck a chord: 'I have a job I really love and I can go out whenever I please. I am in charge of our accounts and can see/speak/socialise with whoever I want.'

I would have said the same thing but I realise now what a lie it was. I never went out because the sulking and blaming took all enjoyment out of it, I cut myself off from friends and family etc. as he hated me speaking to them. When I told a good friend in the village, I got the 'he's a good man' line. My sister belives his stories a year on; I'm making it up, I like playing the victim, I need psychiatric help.

But WA, the police, my GP - none of them think that. I too kept a diary and that is the most powerful thing. I stopped feeling guilty when he picked a massive fight in front of DD (4) because I wasn't sufficiently grateful that he'd bought some toothpaste (that we didn't need).

Now I can see the funny side, but now I'm safe and happy.

Gigantaur · 06/06/2010 14:21

I am so pleased you have spoken WA. I hope they have reasured you that what you are experiencing isn't normal. That you aren't over reacting and that its ok to want to escape.

the power of normalising behaviour is astounding.

I was punched, kicked, raped and abused daily and yet i told myself tht it wasn't DV. He would hold knives to my throat and still i couldn't see it as the scenes we see on the soaps. I couldn't contact WA or a refuge because this wasn't bad enough.
It wasn't domestic abuse, we just had a volatile relationship.

Even when it reached teh stage where he didnt even bother trying to be charming following an incident, still it didn't register as anything but normal.

It is a slippery slope. they start by just telling you you would lok better in the black rather than the red, that he prefers you in these shoes than those. then the constructive criticism, dont do it like that, do it this way. then the insults, but only because you make him so frustrated and angry. he doesnt want to speak to you like that but you make him.

He doesn't isolate you, you can go out whenever you like. He never stops you speaking to your friends. But he just happens to have someting planned for the day you need to go out, or he will need to use the phone just at the moment you call a pal, or he will feel very ill just as you are about to leave for a night out, or you will have managed to make him upset over something. or when you return he will be angry because of something. probably the fact that you must have been chatting yp other men or flaunting yourself.
It just becomes easier not to bother.

Then during an argument he will grab you. It worries you at first but you just shrug it off. he didn't hit you, he just tried to calm you down.
It happens with incresed frequency. one day during a row he will accidentaly slap you. he didn't mean to of course, he was gesturing and his hand caught you.

With every barrier broken it makes it easier for him to move on to the next. Abuse is fluid.

You don't even realise it is happening until it has already become normal.
My Barrister told me my case was one of the most horrific he had worked on. I was stunned. I hadn't put all of what had gone on into my statements. he only knew probably 60% of what went on and yet here he was telling me that my case was teh worst he'd had.
I had spent 7 years telling myself that it was ok. that it wasn't that bad.

I left when DD was 10 weeks old. I told myself that i wouldn't allow her to go through what Ds had had to see. It is something that kills me with guilt, that i could leave for her but not him.or myself.

Essentialy i know that it doesn't matter what the catalyst was, we are free from that now and have a great life.

It's almpost 6 years on and we have a lovely home, i have a new partner and both my DC are happy and healthy. Ds remember a great deal of what he witnessed but he is able to understand now that that is not ok behaviour. he is able to talk about it with me and i think he is doing really well.

We have spent the entire half term with friends and family, laughing and smiling and enjoying the sun. something that we simply wouldn't have been able to do back then.

Please continue to move forward. however well you think you are doing now, you are only ever going to reach part of your potential happiness whilst living with an abuser.

Gigantaur · 06/06/2010 14:22

oops sorry its such an essay

MrsDrOwenHunt · 06/06/2010 15:10

i love you g xxxxx

QueenofWhatever · 06/06/2010 20:36

Gigantaur, exactly...

Gigantaur · 08/06/2010 14:26

back at you MrsDrO.

Any updates Charlotte? I hope you are ok and are feeling a little settled.

Gigantaur · 09/06/2010 16:06

just checking in to see if anyone has heard from Charlotte? I am hoping the lack of posting means that she is safe and well but away from a PC.

please do get in touch if you can

Gigantaur · 14/06/2010 21:15

anyone heard from Charlotte?

i am hoping she is busy having a fabulously free and relaxed time away from H

CWebb · 16/06/2010 12:32

Its Charlotte here.Im ok.

CWebb · 16/06/2010 12:41

I have everything organised.The house is sorted,I have given notice,steam cleaned the carpets..etc but I feel so small, so guilty because I am taking the children across the world away from Dad.Im going to miss Dad too.This feels crazy.I dont know why I let it go on for so long.Now I am just a shadow,blow me and I would fall over.I feel scared to do this alone,but I am too scared to stay.

NicknameTaken · 16/06/2010 13:00

Guilt is a normal part of this process - in previous posts, BertieBotts and I both talked about how devestatingly guilty we felt.

Write down the reasons you are leaving (or read back over this thread) and every time you have a wobble, go back over it. You're doing the right thing.

NicknameTaken · 16/06/2010 13:12

By the way, I'm massively impressed that you steam-cleaned your carpets!