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Chinchilla · 07/07/2003 21:44

Long story, but dh and I are having to make cut backs in our monthly expenditure. We realised that I was spending far too much while shopping, because I make several trips to various supermarkets, and get a few extra things that can sometimes add up to £30 a time, on top of the weekly shop. OK, so we decided to stop having take-aways at the weekend, going out for pizza, and for me to make only one visit to the supermarket, unless I need milk or bread (and then I must only buy those items). No problem there, and last week, I managed to spend 'only' £75 in two trips (one for milk only!) However, today I went for the weekly shop, and managed to spend £110. Before you all gasp in horror, I have ds's 2nd birthday party next Monday, and a lot of the shop involved fizzy drinks, wine, squash etc. Also, there were a lot of toiletries involved this week. In addition, wherever possible, I bought BOGOF items and 'two for £xxx' offers.

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Chinchilla · 07/07/2003 21:44

Cntd/...

I tried really hard to keep the bill down, other than buying some cherries for me (for my diet), some Malteser hot chocolate (to help keep me on my diet). Dh went BALLISTIC at the expense, looked through the bill (admittedly at my invitation), and basically grilled me as to whether we NEEDED this or that item. He got really nasty, and told me that I never listen to what he says (about needing to economise).

This is not the only time that he has been really nasty to me in the last few da6ys (he told me off tonight for walking down the stairs when ds had just dropped off to sleep!), and I can't help wondering if there is not more to all this. If I ask him why he is being nasty, he makes out that I am imagining it.

Anyway, the basic reason for this post is to ask how much you all spend each week on your shopping!

Thanks in advance

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anais · 07/07/2003 21:52

I am in the process of trying to reduce my shopping bills and have just recieved loads of great advice.

I currently spend around £50-£60 a week for myself and 2 little ones. I am really careful with what I spend, but I'm planning to get this figure much lower.

Am I right in thinking you are buying for 3, too?

Why don't you suggest to dh that he does the shopping instead???

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whymummy · 07/07/2003 21:55

we spend £120 a week,tonight £147 but i do buy a lot of fresh food and things like parma ham ,olives,chorizo etc wich really adds up but those things make me feel less homesick,we have tried many times to cut down but is impossible,i dont buy anything in between as i freeze bread and milk so i never run out,the cost of the food has cause a few arguments but i think hes now given up,after all we no longer go out or spend much on ourselves,hope he`s not upset with you for long

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Chinchilla · 07/07/2003 21:55

Anais - what is this greatdvice that you got? And who was it from? Please tell me. I buy value baked beans, and as many '12 loo rolls for the price of 9' sort of offers that I can (!) What else can I do?

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musica · 07/07/2003 21:56

Have you tried just switching where you shop? We changed supermarket, and cut our bills by about a third. The other way to do it, if you can be bothered, is work out how much you want to spend in the week on food, get that much cash out the bank, and then shop locally, only using your cash. If you've got a local greengrocers, they are always cheaper (and nicer) than supermarkets anyway!

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Mummysurfer · 07/07/2003 21:56

A lot more than £100.
We too argue over this. DH reckons it's because I go too often, very similar to your pattern. So then I order from Tesco over the internet & spend between £100 and £120, then he blames my overspend on Tesco being expensive. He would like it if I would/could spend less than £100 but I seem to find this impossible. Age of children make a difference - mine are 7 & 4 - still buying night-time nappies (maybe another thread) How old are yours?

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anais · 07/07/2003 21:57

Do you want a list chinchilla? I got it from someone from another website - will go and find the email...

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Chinchilla · 07/07/2003 21:59

He's nearly 2. He eats what we eat, and I tend to freezr portions for other nights. This causes rows too, because ds sometimes won't eat it, and I get told off for making too big a portion, and wasting it!

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Chinchilla · 07/07/2003 21:59

Lovely, thanks Anais.

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Mummysurfer · 07/07/2003 21:59

anais-
I would be very interested in your list too!

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spacemonkey · 07/07/2003 22:03

hi chinchilla - your bill doesn't sound excessive to me, particularly as that included ds's birthday party things! I reckon I spend at least £110 a week on groceries and that's a normal week, not a birthday week. Admittedly I could spend less if I did one weekly shop (instead of going to Marks n Sparks every other day), but nevertheless, I don't think the bill sounds excessive. This country is such a bloody rip off - after a trip to visit my mum in Italy last year I was seething with resentment at the cost of living here. Sounds to me like dh is stressed and rather unhelpfully took it out on you, which wasn't fair when you had patently done your best to keep the cost down. What about doing your shopping online and getting him to participate so he can't have a go at you for overspending!

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Tinker · 07/07/2003 22:04

Definitely change your supermarket. I used to always shop at Sainsbury's and Tesco because I was a food snob and felt I deserved nice food! Especially if your social life is not what it was. But changed to Morrisons (Asda would be as cheap) and Lidl and food bills are cut by about a 1/3. When I do shop at Tesco or Sainsburys I actually feel angry now at how expensive it is when there seems to be nothing in the trolley. Oh, and use a basket not a trolley.

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uptillallhours · 07/07/2003 22:05

Chinchilla
what's your main concern - the ammount you spend or your dh attitude to you at the moment?

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lilymum · 07/07/2003 22:08

Chinchilla, there is a website called Our Family Place which gives advice on all aspects of budgeting for a family, and has some tips on saving money on your grocery bills here It's a bit American, but could be useful.

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lilymum · 07/07/2003 22:09

Ok, link not working... The address is www.ourfamilyplace.com

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Lindy · 07/07/2003 22:09

I easily spend at least £100 a week and there's only three of us (and DS is only 2) - my DH is more likely to complain if there isn't enough decent food (ie: meat!!) in the fridge. It does sound as though there is more to this than just the food bills - agree with the others, if he thinks he can save money suggest he does the shopping (and cooking) for a week .... that will probably change his mind.

How many of you plan the menus for the whole week? I find it really difficult to do as how do you know what you will feel like eating in three or four days time?

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Mummysurfer · 07/07/2003 22:10

This link didn't work for me.
I'll try asearch engine, but maybe tomorrow as it's my bedtime!!!!!

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spacemonkey · 07/07/2003 22:11

I agree Lindy, menu planning is really difficult to stick to but I think it does simplify life a little bit and helps to reduce stress. Am I the only one whose mind always goes blank at the question "what shall we have for dinner tonight"?

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Mummysurfer · 07/07/2003 22:13

Thanks lilymum.

I try to plan meals for a week but it doesn't always work. But have to say when I do it's SOOOOO much better
I don't have to think "what shall we eat today"
We spend less
There's less waste

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anais · 07/07/2003 22:15

Ok, here goes...

Don't shop when you're hungry, and then skip the aisles with sweets/biscuits/crisps etc

Asda is one of the cheapest places to shop. Sainsbury's and even Tesco are more expensive. (they sneak higher prices here and there so you think you are saving, getting points, then wham, you see your bill is £10 more than if you had gone to Asda).

Buy own brand goods.

Things like biscuits, pies and yogurt can be made more cheaply at home. Get a yoghurt maker cheaply from Ebay, some fruit, a box of UHT milk for 40 p and a 30p container of store brand plain live bio. and a few tablespoons of sugar will make you a weeks worth of yougurt..actually, once you do the first batch, you just top up with the milk and fruit. as you make one container plain and that is your new start.

We have a second hand kenwood chef, and bought the juice extractor attachment. In less than 5 minutes, we have fruit or vel juice as all you do is cut the fruit into pieces. The pulp goes in the yoghurt or a crumble

The Chef also has a dough hook and all you do is throw in your ingredients for pie crust, it does the rest so all you have to do is roll it out, perfect everytime. You can also make bread dough in it, and home-made bread is a lot more filling than cheap storebread, you can make it as you need it, etc. so less waste as well

Things like Burgers or sausages (meat or veg) can be made cheaply from home. We make all our own sausages, again using the chef, it has a mincer and sausage making attachment, best investment we ever made. Got the attachments as they came up on Ebay, the machines can also be bought second hand there. Though you can just roll your sausage mixture in breadcrumbs instead of casings, we do that now making your own pizza is cheaper than buying cheap frozen. It is also cheaper and less wasteful to buy mushrooms and onions frozen lol

Another way we save money is we bought a teapot and strainer. I can hear you saying, how does that save money. Simple. A box of loose tea makes three times as much tea as the same amount spent on tea bags. A cafetiere also saved us money as it is cheaper to buy ground coffee than instant, every time. Takes a whole 3 minutes longer to steep in the cafetiere is all, and that is mostly gone by the time you get out the cups, add your milk, sugar, etc.
now, we buy our milk from the milkman. We tried it both ways, and discovered it was cheaper to buy it that way because milk and eggs are two things that when you run out, you end up dashing to the store to get, and you end up spending in petrol at least the amount of pence you think you are saving getting there, a few more pence than that waiting with the motor running to get past someone into a space, , etc. That was a real eye opener. you also get milk when you need it that way, if you discover you unexpectedly used more milk, just leave a note out. he can also deliver potatoes, eggs, and orange juice meaning less trips to the shops for those items as well. We get cream from ours as well and make ice cream and butter. 2 large containers of double cream will make 1 litre of ice cream and a load of butter.

Other ways to save if you can...look at the cereal you are buying. In winter, i keep porridge oats to hand. cheap, and very economical. Get the kind you cook and for 35 p for the store brand you get a kilo that will last you at least 2 months. You can also mix it with honey and add fruit to it, shape into bars and bake for lovely snacks. Again, i use my fruit puree for that lol if buying cold cereals, I suggest looking to see if you have an Aldi nearby. Boxes of cereal there are cheap and nutritious, with kid's type cereals being about 69 p a box. We buy baked beans from there as well, and tuna and such, lookout, you can save some money. Hubby is finicky about his baked beans but loves those as they taste like heinz ones, only 9 p a tin instead of 40. if at Asda (or tesco), we buy store brand on our adult cereals when we can, if Aldi doesn't have the sort we want (or if its not an Aldi week LOL).

Ok, other ways to lower your bills in general...if your heat runs on a thermostat instead of a timer, it is cheaper to turn the thermostat down 1-2 degrees and leave it on constantly than to turn it on only at night or for a few hours to warm the house up. Same with hot water, turn down the hot water tank and leave it on, it is cheaper. If you like to eat stews and casseroles, look at investing in a slow cooker. You can leave them on all day cooking unattended (designed for this, perfectly safe) and only use the amount of energy a light bulb would use. Do a large casserole/stew and you can freeze half, meaning you can just microwave or pop it back into the slow cooker for a few hours, again saving energy either way?

another savings is doing eco friendly type cleaning. clean with things such as washing soda and vinegar and tea tree oil. take a bucket of hot water and add 2 drops of tea tree oil and a squirt of any washing up liquid. You can clean your kitchen, bathroom, and mop floors with that, it is antibacterial. pour into the toilet slowly when done and let sit for an hour, then scrub and flush. Wiping your taps with vinegar will get them shiny and the acid kills the germs. Washing up liquid and a bucket of warm water and a squeegee will get you perfectly spotless windows and glass everytime, its what window washers use. Any drips, wipe with a yellow dust cloth, it will not leave smears. for dusting, try using an electrostatic duster instead o polish and use damp duster to do the tops of the telly, etc. loads cheaper. if you like the scent of the polish, just ad a few drops of lavender onto the cloth.

lastly, i recommend changing your washing powder to gloop and using ecover bleach occasionally to brighten the wash and remove stains. I remove stains with an astonish bar first, goes a long way, then do an economy wash with gloop. If my whites need a boost, or stubborn stains, etc., 2 tsp. of ecover bleach (£1.52 a box but you only use 2 tsp. a full load) does the trick. If you dot know how to use or make gloop, email me gain and i will happily give you the link lol. Always line dry if possible, that will save you tons of money in electric and or gas. Also, the sun is naturally deodorising and a natural brightener and has a natural antibacterial action.

We also save by using cloth nappies and washing a load of them every two days. Its not everyone's cup of tea, but my two have eczema and my DD was prone to thrush, and so we had to make the switch as it was the only thing that keeps their skin happy as the disp. are full of chemical preservatives and such. not to mention it is a lot cheaper than the 5-8 quid a week nappies cost.

I also save on buying shampoo and such by signing up to www.freeukstuff.co.uk and getting freebie shampoo samples (bottles not dinky envelopes) and getting vouchers from www.wishvalue.co.uk - asda will take all the vouchers, even if you don't buy the item.

Right. most of that is just a cut and paste job, but there are some good ideas in there (I thought, anyway) If the lady in question is reading this I hope she doesn't mind me copying this here....

HTH

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fio2 · 07/07/2003 22:17

I spend about 80-100 but Im a sainsburys girl. I dont find asda any cheaper and I cant be bothered with how busy it is there. I have to shop for 1 adult, 2 children, 2 dogs, 1 rabbit and dh who works away most the week and my wine dependancy. I think I spend alot but it looks like the average.

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anais · 07/07/2003 22:19

I don't plan menus ahead as I just can't stick to it, it's more stress than it's worth.

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spacemonkey · 07/07/2003 22:19

wow lots of good tips in there anais, and yes please can you post the link to this gloop mallarkey?

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jasper · 07/07/2003 22:36

fantastic post Anais, thanks.
Can I second whoever recommended Lidl? Once you get the hang of the limited varieties they sell it is so much cheaper than anywhere else, and it all seems to be great quality. In fact the limitations in product lines mean you don't buy unnecessary fancy stuff.
They have wine for about £2.60 a bottle and I've yet to taste a bad one

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anais · 07/07/2003 22:37

oooh, gloop, er hang on...

gloop

click on 'washing'

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