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notabused · 12/03/2010 02:36

ok.. deep breath.. I need advice please.

Things now do good with DH for a while. Things are stressful in our lives - unemployment, money worries - and we argue.

We have two DC at infant/ junior school.

Everyone who knows DH would say he is an especially gentle, placid, easy going man. They would say he is determined too when they really know him and its about something he really wants. I don't know what they would say about me, but not those things.

He loves our children and I think he loves me.

This evening things came to a head.

There is a small level of violence but mostly he is in denial over it. The worst thing is what he does to the children. he tells them horrible things to hurt me through them. "I am so sorry that you've got such a terrible Mummy" is a common example. Tonight it was "fat cow", "bitch", "she doesn't love me" (I do) and "she makes me want to commit suicide" amongst other things I can't remember now. They also were there when he told me that he was going to take the children away from me. (they weren't even in the room where we were arguing - he called them in and then said it).

I hate it when he hurts the children like this but he has done it several times now, so its not a one-off accident.

Afterwards he is in denial .. he thinks the children have put like or no weight by what they heard, saw and had said to them. But DC1 was crying and I found both of them hiding under the covers in their beds immediately afterwards. I was just starting to try to help them when DH came in. I left him to it because if he was willing, a retraction would be more effective from him than me saying "Daddy didn't mean it". I think he did try to make it better but I know that he doesn't think it was especially harmful in the first place "unless put ideas in their heads".

WE've hardly spoken since. I went to bed at the same time as the DC, which is partly why i am awake now.

I really do not know what to do or where to turn for help. If I tell people we know in RL, it will be the end of our marriage. But my DC mean the world to me and I need to protect them. We've given them good lives so far and they are well brought up... good manners, doing well at school, nice young children. Money worries are a new thing in the family (our business failed in the recession) so we still live well although that is about to end as our savings are nearly gone. Why does DH have to try to do this to them?? He loves them too. They are the one truly good thing we have left!

I'm rambling. Please tell me.. is there a help line number I can call? Someone who can give me advice about what to do?

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 15/03/2010 22:28

what is wrong with idealism ?

would you rather be an abused woman than admit you have made a mistake in giving this man so many chances ?

Is it stubborn-ness/pride that keeps you with him?

don't you want an ideal family life with your dc ? Don't they deserve that ?

I know that keep mentioning your dc is a low blow...but if you don't feel that you deserve better...don't they ?

how will you dodge/explain away their innocent questions as they get older and start to pick up on things more ?

or are you hoping he will change and just stop doing what he does ?

I am afraid there is little chance of that

ItsGraceAgain · 15/03/2010 22:37

I just couldn't bring myself to reply to your "idealist" comment, NA, as it triggered such a lot of well-rehearsed patterns in me. Following your example, I've taken some deep breaths - and am asking you: Why does it feel unrealistic to expect respect & consideration from your partner?

AnyFucker · 15/03/2010 22:51

I know grace

i had to really psyche myself up to answer that, too

I mean...where the hell do you start in trying to make someone realise they are sooooooooo off-beam ?

ItsGraceAgain · 15/03/2010 23:20

I dunno, AF. With somebody who's well 'trained' to upweight the nice bits & ignore the bad ... I guess you have to keep trying, in the hope something will get through

notabused, can you think of the reasons why it feels unrealistic to expect respect & consideration from your partner?

notabused · 16/03/2010 05:28

It is not unrealistic to expect respect & consideration from a partner. It is unrealistic to expect the rest of the world to conform 100% of the time to an ideal.

My ideal right now would be to have the man I married be exactly the same now, but he's not. Just as good would be that I earned now what i was earning pre-children, I looked like I did pre-children, I'd never had depression and neither of us had ever suffered any bad luck or problems brought by other people who wanted to rip us off. The reality is that I've got what I've got and its up to me to make the most of it. If I hold my breath waiting for everything I planned when I was 18, then I'll have nothing at all in the end.

What my husband did is not acceptable. Both of us wish he hadn't done it, albeit me more than him. However, we cannot change the past so both of us have to put our efforts into trying to optimise our future(s) based on what is available.

Isn't this the same for everyone's life? Its just a question of where you take the risks because there are no guarantees.

Anyway I am up early to call WA. I can't sleep because of all this so at least I have some time when I can call WA without being overheard.

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tortoiseonthehalfshell · 16/03/2010 06:00

Good luck with calling WA, OP (Sorry, I usually call people by their usernames, but yours sticks in my craw a little...that's not meant any way but kindly, I promise).

I'm really, really glad that you've told your sister, by the way. Have you told her all of it?

Personally, I'd leave now and try and get him to come to counselling while you're separated. That way, if it doesn't work, you're already out and you've kept your promise to yourself.

Leaving now, for a trial separation, doesn't have to mean it's over, if you're not ready for it to be. It just means you're safe if it is over.

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LoveBeingAMummy · 25/03/2010 11:52

Was just thinking of you, hope you are ok

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