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Do I just need to accept that I was a Slut?

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cheekymonk · 01/03/2010 20:27

Evening All! I am happily married with one ds now but back in my uni days I was very promiscuous and did sleep with over 100 men roughly. I used to have to get really pissed to have the confidence to approach anyone (mainly due to being fat). I was lonely and although I had made some friends, I wanted a boyfriend too and in my warped mind sleeping with someone and being wanted for all of 30 mins or if I was lucky, the whole night was the next best thing.
I lived with 6 male housemates at the time who were appalled my behaviour. I did have threesomes/forsomes (and a fivesome too I think!) which was what pushed them into really despising me. One night I brought someone back, he went then I went back out and brought someone else back. It is shocking and I was out of control but those housemates were so vile.
I ended up recently sending a message to one of them on facebook. I wanted an apology but have today come home to this
"It has been a long time - 13 years in fact, which i why suddenly recieving this from you scares me that you have gone to the lengths to find me. Obviously some deep seated resentment there that you probably need to get off your chest/deal with through professional help. Either way - yes behaviour to you may not have been entirely appropriate, but my did you deserve it. Hoping to find brother figures? WHy on earth? I cannot imagine why you, a second year, felt the need to take a room with six male 4th year students. Most 2nd years got digs with friends they made in the 1st year...!!!! To refute some of your allegations about us. 2 of us had girlfriends, neither of them cheated on them. The rest of us, me included, enjoyed a significantly lower level of "single life" than you did - as you said it's what people do at uni...mainly with students met at the Student's Union", though, not with sailors they pick up in Joanna's night club. While I am all for enjoying the single life, both for men and women - you took it to such an extreme. 2 guys in one night I recall...one at about 1030 and then you going back out to bring another one back! Another stealing my bike from the hall! I hope my thoughts about the way YOU behaved are clear. I may have been a little immature back then and yes, 13 years is a long time. But do I have any regrets/would I behave differently to such a prolific enjoyment of the single life as yours now - I doubt it. I trust that I will not hear form you again."

I feel so gutted and worthless, just like I did then. I sincerely regret raking up the past. I am trying to understand now WHY I behaved so badly and try and reconcile the past but am having trouble.
Any thoughts? Do I just need to accept that i was a total slut back then??

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morningpaper · 01/03/2010 21:28

I very much agree with Reality

In these sorts of situations, the approach to take is to take responsibility for your OWN actions, and apologise for those

If people want to apologise for their own actions in return, then that's marvellous

If they tell you to fuck off - well, you did all you could, and did the decent thing

groundhogs · 01/03/2010 21:30

cheekymonk, believe me, you were the housemate from hell.... You're lucky your stuff didn't end up in the street.

What DID you email him? it must be in your sent box?

If you emailed him demanding an apology for you turning their home into some kind of impromptu knocking shop, one of your guests nicking his bike.... and I bet you did nothing to put that right either did you? No WONDER he was a little put out and blunt with you.

In the old days, we did daft/bad/stupid things, we kept it quiet. Nowadays it all has to be raked up and dealt with. NO. IT. DOESN'T.

Let sleeping dogs lie, it's better like that.

Lose the demons. forgive yourself, you were young and a complete bloody idiot. 13 years have passed and you are no longer that person.

Surely this thread can't be for real?

Lulumaam · 01/03/2010 21:32

groundhogs , cheekymonk posted her email to him, a bit lower down, at 21:06:13

thatsnotmymonkey · 01/03/2010 21:33

Holy shit, I was reading the whole post and thinking, that housemate was such a pig, how ungracious! But your email was so aggressive! What did you expect?!

It sounds like they were horrible to you, regardless of your promiscuity, but in order for people to be able to apologise, you need to create the right tone and atmosphere. You so went in there guns blazing, why?

Shame, I hope you have de-friended him and will cease contact. Does your DH know about this, what is his take on it? Only asking as he knows you best I suppose and could support you gaining closure on this?

cheekymonk · 01/03/2010 21:35

I can understand them being annoyed with my sexual behaviour in respect of the noise and general staggering in regularly out of my face. One time, my friends from home came to see me and I could see I wasn't going to pull in the Union where we all were so went elsewhere. i knew my mates were sleeping in my room so took this guy in the lounge and promptly got kicked out when they all returned. I do shudder when i think about it. Its such ugly behaviour to face up to. I have apologised to my old friends countless times but I was stuck in this selfish cycle of self destruction really and took a long time to come out of it.It usually was just one bloke however, the moresomes were few and far between, which sounds a pathetic justification.
I have had odd bits of counselling but not about my sexual past.

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MrsL123 · 01/03/2010 21:35

Cheekymonk, you're right, I probably would get on well with him. Considering the email you sent him, I'm suprised he responded so politely and reasonably and don't see how he can be called pompous for doing so.

What would we all be saying if his wife came on here tonight, telling us that her husband had received a rambling and accusatory email from some ex-housemate from 13 years ago, demanding he apologise and raking up a load of rubbish from his Uni days? We'd be saying she was a nutter and that he should send her an email back telling her where to get off!

smallorange · 01/03/2010 21:36

I think you need to talk this through with someone neutral and try to understand why you valued yourself so little to allow yourself to be used by random strangers.

It's obviously bothering you.

dittany · 01/03/2010 21:36

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damnedchilblains · 01/03/2010 21:38

I agree with reality and morning paper, sorry cheeky but wow n email like that is only ever going rub somebody up the wrong way. I can't even understand why somebody would write something like that unless you were drunk? Leave it alone, you are a better person, as another poster said you now have the love of your husband nd son, just learn to love yourself. Seriously suggesting counselling if you can't do it alone.

bluetits · 01/03/2010 21:39

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Lulumaam · 01/03/2010 21:40

yes, it is ugly behaviour to face up to and after 13 yearsm this man is still pissed off with you, which indicates how horrible it was to live with you !!

why none of you moved or suggested moving out or tried to reach a compromise is beyond me

i would seek more therapy, this is clearly a massive issue , to go to these lengths and to still be so disturbed

SolidGoldBrass · 01/03/2010 21:40

While your behaviour at uni may have been a bit ill-advised, there is actually NOTHING wrong, in itself, with having group sex or lots of sexual partners. It doesn't make you a bad person.
However, as others have said, sending a ranting aggressive email to someone who you have had no contact with for 13 years, demanding an apology, is very ill-advised.
This man doesn't owe you anything. He may well have been an arse then, and may still be an arse now, but 13 years down the line I think he has the right to get on with his life uninterrupted by loopy emails from people he didn't get on with in the past.
FFS don't try the same tactic with the rest of these blokes. Most people do dumb things in their teens, and your sexual misadventures are not, after all, in the same league as killing someone or burning the house down in a tantrum.

cheekymonk · 01/03/2010 21:40

I wasn't facebook friends with him. I did actively search his name but I found it in 2 mins, not in the mad stalker way he has portrayed. I did go in all guns blazing because I felt so impassioned about it. I wanted to hear his take on things. How he reacted was how I thought they all felt and it has taken my breath away that they were that hateful of me. All my absolute worst traits are splashed here none of the good. I know I wasn't always a nightmare to live with as I am friends with other housemates from the same period.
My DH knows about it all, and loive him, he accepts that that was me then and this is me now and loves me warts and all. He is much more conventional than me and keeps me grounded. Trouble is he is away alot which gives me too much thinking time. I just want to understand WHY I behaved so badly.

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Lulumaam · 01/03/2010 21:42

you won't get the answers you are looking for from him or anyone else

they are within you

you still feel on some level like the fat, lonely, friendless girl and just want everyone to liek you.

why is the approval of strangers so important?

why after so long?

MuthaHubbard · 01/03/2010 21:42

who cares, he was just some random bloke you happened to live with, you didn't get along with that you haven't seen for 13 years - why do you care what he thinks? he probably couldn't give a stuff what you think

not everyone is going to like you or what you do

morningpaper · 01/03/2010 21:45

but cheekymonk the WEIRD thing about your behaviour is that you sent the PRECISE email that would elicit such a response, regardless of his feelings about you. There is NO WAY he is going to have responded any other way.

If you had wanted to move on, you would have apologised and left it at that.

It sounds as though you wanted to hear the bad things.

dittany · 01/03/2010 21:45

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MrsL123 · 01/03/2010 21:45

We have all done things we're ashamed of, and maybe we even think about them sometimes. But to go to the lengths of finding someone on Facebook and emailing them? I think the real reason you emailed him is that you wanted him to absolve you of your actions and make you feel better about your past. And now you're annoyed that he didn't and are expecting everyone to join in bashing him and saying he's a tosser. He isn't. I don't see anything in his email that is unacceptable. I see plenty in yours that is, though. If I didn't think he'd already have blocked you, I'd suggest emailing him back and apologising for dragging up the past for no reason.

Lulumaam · 01/03/2010 21:47

actually, i would be fairly contemptous of a housemate who had so little regard for the feelings of her other housemates. noisy group sex, random strangers, stuff being nicked.. had some big rows due to similar behaviour when housesharing. why does she get to be excused of her behaviour? which was also antisocial?

piratecat · 01/03/2010 21:48

ut you've obviously got HUGE issues regarding yourself, your own self esteem etc... and now you vent it by contacting someone out of the blue in a very agressive manner.

my god, you really really need to write back to him, and say sorry for launching at him and his 'life' so out if the blue. I know they hurt you, but you have no idea what this man's life is right now. TBh I think he reacted quite well, considering.

morningpaper · 01/03/2010 21:49

Dittany if this was a house of 6 women who were being forced to walk into their own lounge to see their male flatmate having sex, and listen to him sleeping with two partners in a night, and bringing home 3, 4 and 5 women to have sex with, I don't think you would be proposing that the women find a way of "helping" the man sort out his issues, do you?

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cheekymonk · 01/03/2010 21:50

I think another part of it was the injustice I felt that it was because I was a woman that it was more of an issue. Living with 6 men was pretty eye-opening on how men can treat women. The friends I had at uni lived in the area in their family home and I wasn't quick enough to get in with the ones that didn't so I just responded to a random ad. There was no massive agenda about it.
I expected Uni to be very liberal and open-minded but found it to be a repeat of school and very cliquey. I don't make friends easily (no nasty comments please! )and found it all a massive ordeal. I didn't give up though and as i say, am much stronger now then I was then.

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morningpaper · 01/03/2010 21:50

students drunkenly breaking down a bedroom door is fairly normal

you buy a new one

Lulumaam · 01/03/2010 21:51

nope, but i would be absolutely fecking furious and would certainly be arguing the point, i am sure other people with less morals would do those things, would make her life miserable as revenge for their lives being made miserable

if they were in their final yer, they probably did not want the upheaveal of moving etc whilst preparing for finals.

the OP has behaved atrociously, and need to find the help to move on and not want absolution from people who never liked her anyway

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