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Do I just need to accept that I was a Slut?

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cheekymonk · 01/03/2010 20:27

Evening All! I am happily married with one ds now but back in my uni days I was very promiscuous and did sleep with over 100 men roughly. I used to have to get really pissed to have the confidence to approach anyone (mainly due to being fat). I was lonely and although I had made some friends, I wanted a boyfriend too and in my warped mind sleeping with someone and being wanted for all of 30 mins or if I was lucky, the whole night was the next best thing.
I lived with 6 male housemates at the time who were appalled my behaviour. I did have threesomes/forsomes (and a fivesome too I think!) which was what pushed them into really despising me. One night I brought someone back, he went then I went back out and brought someone else back. It is shocking and I was out of control but those housemates were so vile.
I ended up recently sending a message to one of them on facebook. I wanted an apology but have today come home to this
"It has been a long time - 13 years in fact, which i why suddenly recieving this from you scares me that you have gone to the lengths to find me. Obviously some deep seated resentment there that you probably need to get off your chest/deal with through professional help. Either way - yes behaviour to you may not have been entirely appropriate, but my did you deserve it. Hoping to find brother figures? WHy on earth? I cannot imagine why you, a second year, felt the need to take a room with six male 4th year students. Most 2nd years got digs with friends they made in the 1st year...!!!! To refute some of your allegations about us. 2 of us had girlfriends, neither of them cheated on them. The rest of us, me included, enjoyed a significantly lower level of "single life" than you did - as you said it's what people do at uni...mainly with students met at the Student's Union", though, not with sailors they pick up in Joanna's night club. While I am all for enjoying the single life, both for men and women - you took it to such an extreme. 2 guys in one night I recall...one at about 1030 and then you going back out to bring another one back! Another stealing my bike from the hall! I hope my thoughts about the way YOU behaved are clear. I may have been a little immature back then and yes, 13 years is a long time. But do I have any regrets/would I behave differently to such a prolific enjoyment of the single life as yours now - I doubt it. I trust that I will not hear form you again."

I feel so gutted and worthless, just like I did then. I sincerely regret raking up the past. I am trying to understand now WHY I behaved so badly and try and reconcile the past but am having trouble.
Any thoughts? Do I just need to accept that i was a total slut back then??

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damnedchilblains · 01/03/2010 21:00

ahhh thanks lulu

macdoodle · 01/03/2010 21:02

I'm sorry really confused, why DID you rake up the past, why did you search him out, what did your message say, what did you want him to apologise for, why bother

Lulumaam · 01/03/2010 21:04

i also remember some random friends of a houseamte turning up at a party, shagging on my bedroom floor, getting arsey when i threw them out and then discovering my purse had been stolen..
those were the days....
bastards

cheekymonk · 01/03/2010 21:06

This is the message I sent him. The did cheat on their girlfriends, I all bit witnessed it. Yes his bike was nicked but it turned up again in a couple of days unscathed.
I expected an apology because despite of my behaviour, i didn't feel I deserved the way they were with me. See incidences below.

'Its been a very long time and I doubt whether you even remember me but I have to say that the way you and the other guys acted at P* Rd In Portsmouth when we were all at Uni was pretty shoddy. I know I was no angel to say the least but you were all such bastards, to be fair. Do you remember my door being kicked in when I was away for Christmas, shouting names at me when you came in pissed and just generally being pretty vile. I couldn't wait to leave the house. How naive was I, hoping to find brother figures/friends only to live with men with total double standards who thought nothing of cheating on their own girlfriends/treating women really badly but thinking I was the whore of babylon for sleeping with lots of men despite being single! Its what people do at Uni! Anyway, I just wanted to make the point that it was totally out of order and I hope that you have all grown up and have never treated anyone else like that since!

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groundhogs · 01/03/2010 21:06

Wow, he was a bit blunt wasn't he?

You don't need his apology, you need your own.

Ok you did behave with very poor judgement and bad manners, but you have turned your back on that.

Forgive yourself, you've served 13 years of a self imposed sentence. Now it's 'Time off for good behaviour!....

Focus on what is important, your present and your future, your family.

groundhogs · 01/03/2010 21:07

BTW, care to post your message to HIM?

Lulumaam · 01/03/2010 21:07

and you thought that would get you an apologyy ? am agog you throw insults and nastiness, gloss over your own bad behaviour and then want an apology.

i am speechless

morningpaper · 01/03/2010 21:08

errr sorry cheekymonk, but your email is MAD, I would be furious if I'd be sent something like that

devilsadvocaat · 01/03/2010 21:10

jeez. sounds like you were all as bad as each other.

cheekymonk · 01/03/2010 21:10

When I lived with them I didn't ever defend myself and allowed them to tease me, stood by as they went out on their nights out together, heard from a friend how they one were calling me a fat slag in the union, regularly stole my food and generally judged me. It was clear I did not fit their idea of how a woman should look and behave. I am stronger now and wanted to really confront avery painful part of my past and deal with it and get some kind of closure I guess.
Thank you for all your comments xx

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morningpaper · 01/03/2010 21:11

I generally think it's wise to start any emails to old university friends starting with the line "I just wanted to email to apologise for the way I "

and that's pretty much the right approach

dizzydixies · 01/03/2010 21:11

good grief, am not surprised you got the reply you did

leave it alone, well alone - they obviously had until you dragged it up

Lulumaam · 01/03/2010 21:13

you need to make peace with yourself, not other people

you need to forgive yourself, accep what you did and move on

you are married with a child, concentrate on enjoying that, rather than tracking down people from years ago especially where there was mutual hatred

it sounds lie in your head, you are still the fat, lonely, mixed up , unloved and sad girl

you're not ! your're loved, married, with a child, you need to move forward

MrsL123 · 01/03/2010 21:14

This man is probably married with kids and a busy life, and probably hasn't thought about you in 13 years - how is he supposed to react? He comes home from work, logs on to check his messages before his dinner, and is met by a rambling message from you demanding an apology for something he apparently did over a decade ago (although not sure what this was, actually). How would you react if it was the other way around and he had emailed you in this manner, raking up the past and demanding that you apologise for making him feel like he was living in a brothel 13 years ago? Would you apologise, send a nice message back asking to be friends? Of course you wouldn't. I think you've gotten off quite lightly actually - people don't take kindly to ghosts from their pasts haunting them, especially when those ghosts are people you never actually liked and come to you demanding apologies.

You say they were vile to you, but to be honest it sounds like you were a nightmare to live with. I have been in a similar situation, living with someone who brought different men back every night and had no idea who they were. Things frequently went missing, but she couldn't even remember having someone back the night before, never mind their names! It ended up with me feeling like a prisoner in my own home - I couldn't leave the flat without locking my bedroom door, and never knew who I'd meet in the morning coming out of the bathroom or in the kitchen. But at least she only brought one person back at a time - I think most people would be repulsed by the thought of hearing someone being nailed by 5 random blokes in the bedroom next door, whether it's Uni or not!

MuthaHubbard · 01/03/2010 21:15

why did you email him in the first place??

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smallorange · 01/03/2010 21:17

So you sent an old housemate an email like that out of the blue, 13 years after the event and you are surprised he is shitty back to you!

Leave them alone and deal eith your past yourself.

cheekymonk · 01/03/2010 21:21

Gosh MrsL1233, sounds like you and him would get on well!
However bad I behaved then and I do admit and acknowledge it, i will argue to the cows come home that I did not deserve how this housemate was in particular with me. Its ok to kick my door in and shout names at me is it? Its okay to actually break my door down when i am away at Christmas?
Yes I am ashamed at how difficult I must have been to live with in some respects but the standards in the house seemed pretty low anyway.
I have learnt my lesson though, in more ways than one. FWIW, I have been married 7 years and been completely faithful. I don't miss that old life one bit but I get haunted by the demons of it hence wanting to sort it out.

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Lulumaam · 01/03/2010 21:23

the only demons you need to sort out are with yourself, in your head

you behaved applaingly, am not surprised they were horrible to you. you were all horrible then.

if you've been married 7 years, you really need to move on

have oyu had any therapy/counselling?

cheekymonk · 01/03/2010 21:24

I'm not mad and take offense at being called so.

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dizzydixies · 01/03/2010 21:24

no of course his behaviour was not acceptable but he obviously felt yours wasn't either - I'd leave it well alone, forgive yourself and move on

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Lulumaam · 01/03/2010 21:26

I do agree with MrsL's post

i think part of the problem is, you cannot accpet how bad your behaviour wsa and sexual behaviour aside, having a lot of random people ion a shared house, is a big proble, you are determined to play that down, whilst calling him for being a big pompous bastard for getting the arse with you

your behaviour clearly angered him. he responded angrily

none of you were living in a vacuum , your behavour and his were to do with how you both behaved.

god, the noise alone from a 3/4/5some would have made me psychotic and want to kick the door in

take some responsibility here for what you did