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Mid life crisis - your tips on how to survive please

75 replies

tiredandgrumpy · 22/09/2009 21:33

I'm nearly 38 and feeling pretty depressed about getting older. I've been with my husband since we were 21 and I think we've hit a long dull spell. I'm not even sure I love him any more, though suspect this is more to do with the stress of having young children & everyday life than a sign our relationship is doomed.

Generally I just feel as though life has passed me by, that I'm getting older, saggier & whilst I can secretly lust after other men I'm sure they wouldn't be interested anyway. It's not that I want to have a fling, affair or whatever, it's simply about me feeling older and no longer attractive, boring and stuck in a rut.

dh works long hours and rarely gets home early enough to give me time to get out. What do you recommend I do to give myself a kick up the backside & feel good about life again?

OP posts:
deste · 30/01/2010 19:50

I think I am possibly the oldest on here. I remember dreading being 20 but I am now coming up to 60 and I dont care. I remember thinking I had got lost somewhere in the middle but my DC's have left home and I am free. I joined a gym 6 years ago so am quite slim and fit. My friends whom I met through the gym are a good 12 years younger than I am but they keep telling me that they think of me being the same age as them. I have gained so much confidence from watching them and picked up tips on how to choose clothes that make me feel and look good. I have always kept my hair in a trendy style and colour and I drive a sports car. I have no intention at the moment of growing old and I now feel happy with my life. We have just all come back from a skiing holdiday (minus DH) and had a fantastic time. The other people in the chalet did not guess my age either as they said when they eventually found out that they would never have taken me to some of the places we skied in. I have one friend who is 48 and she oozes confidence. She has men falling over themselves to take her out. She doesn't even go out looking for a man.

ChaosTheoryMum · 30/01/2010 20:07

I'm 38 (soon to be 39 - bleeeuurrggh!!) and reading your letter was spookily like reading about myself, so I know totally how you feel. I just have the one little boy who's 3, but I spend most days feeling like his personal slave. Mummy do this, mummy get me that, mummy you got to play with me now - heck , it's not as if I've got anything else to do, like, y'know, eat, go to the toilet, cook, clean, pick up after a husband as well...!! It's not at all surprising that us mums can feel like little robots, jumping to the whim of everyone else and nobody even noticing our efforts, never mind appreciating them or - god forbid - offering any help.
In that situation, you can feel neglected and resentful - and you've every right to. The danger is that you can start to feel so beaten down by it all that you stop fighting for yourself and start to feel guilty for wanting a break from your life, which can lead you into a downward spiral of depression. You ARE important, and you deserve some regular me-time, so if you're not having any you're well within your rights to demand it. Get your husband or another family member to take him off to the park or something - anywhere - for at least half a day, at least once a week. Then spend the time doing something for YOU - not housework, not prep for something child- or family-related - something just for your own pleasure. I recently started a course - a correspondence course because I'm a stay-at-home mum who can't work because we can't afford the childcare costs (and lack willing grandparents nearby.) It's a bit hard to motivate myself to do it sometimes, but I just have to kick myself in the backside and get on with it. It feels good to work on something that isn't directly related to being a mum for a change!
Obviously it's not my place to give you marriage advice, but I know from my own experience that it's easy to let weeks, months go by without spending any time alone with your husband - and then you start wondering if the two of you are right for each other anymore. If you can make a regular 'date' with each other, where someone else has the kids and you just go off and do your own thing without worrying you're going to get a phone call begging you to come back, it can often mean the difference between staying together and breaking up. It doesn't have to be anything flashy or dramatic - having a meal together, a walk in the woods or even just a shopping trip together is fine. The important thing is, it has to be a COMPLETELY child-free session and it has to be REGULAR. Write the dates in the calendar if you can - otherwise it's too easy to let the time slip by and not bother.
And lastly, please don't feel you're alone. I personally don't believe what you're having is a 'mid-life crisis' - I think you're just feeling neglected and put-upon, which is a perfectly reasonable way for any mum to feel.

Romanarama · 30/01/2010 20:08

It's a bit depressing starting to look older though isn't it? I'm 37 too, and really just starting to get that slightly droopy face and wrinkles. I'm not so superficial as to think that my happiness depends on youthful looks, but examining the damage is not a great start to the day .

So much better to liven up your life together with your husband than to look elsewhere for fun. OP if you're both working you must be able to afford a babysitter sometimes to go out can't you? Even if it's less than once a week.

AandO your situation sounds really hard. Can you not make some friends by doing some activity with your ds once per week maybe and meeting some other mums?

Iknowmyheadsintheclouds · 30/01/2010 22:19

oh thank you thank you for this thread! Am definitely in the middle of a MLC and it's really freaking me out because I'm normally very 'stable' and 'normal' and 'happy'...

I'm 42, got in shape when I was 40 and physically, I feel great. I feel sexy, hopeful. I love my husband, we have a great sex life, my heart flutters when I see him, have a great dc. What more could I want?

Stupidly a few months ago I contacted an ex from 20 years ago. We've been emailing each other, talking a lot about why the relationship didn't work (he had pg gf..I know, dirtbag!). The emails have started to become more intense..how we loved each other, will always love each other, how wonderful it was, how sad sad we are that we didn't make it work. It's like I'm reliving the relationship all over again. And it's sprialling out of control. Why did I contact him? What was I looking for?

I'm so confused, I can hardly sleep, I feel sick to my stomach knowing that I told another man I love him, secret emails in the middle of the night.

Yet I feel utter grief for the loss of this past relationship. Can't stop crying, can't eat, can't sleep.

And really really want to buy a very expensive pair of shoes.

Thanks for listening and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one.

Sibble · 31/01/2010 04:20

Joining this thread. I'm 44, wasn't terribly phased by turning 40 (I thought) but took up running (managed a few events), body boarding, became a gym bunny (not working then, could do with losing a stone now don't have time to go to the gym although still body boarding and doing yoga) etc etc...DH also works very long hours and is as much use as a chocolate fireguard with the boys/house etc but this year I'm increasing my work hours to 30, starting a MSc and making time for myself. My suggestion would be to make a list of all the things you want to do, like a bucket list. I did and put a huge line through many things I'd wanted to do. Am still working through the list and it's fun. It's also fun not to take things too seriously.

My 'big thing' is dying I have a fixation that I'm not going to see the boys grow up. I attended the funeral of a friend last week, she'd just saw her 40'th birthday and 3 friends last year all 40's or early 50's were treated for cancer or brain haemorrages.
Also Dh just turned 50, for some reason I'm having a MLC about that (as well as him). 50 really does sound so old and he's so blardy grumpy all the time........

Anyway will check in for some positive posts.

t875 · 31/01/2010 09:06

I would maybe join a gym and do a fitness class which may well open up opportunities to meet new friends.

Hobbies, listen to your favourite music, put some flowers around the house, go out with friends for coffee, evenings out. manicures, get your hair done (maybe a new style)

Think back to what you both enjoyed before kids come along..what you used to do.
go away together for the weekend, make sure you both catch up with eachother once a week or more.

Have a meal together atleast once a week.

maybe talk to a councillor or maybe even you see the dr or take some evening primrose oil or B6.

Good luck and hope things get better for you.

ancientrockchick · 31/01/2010 19:15

Looking back, my nemesis was 40. Regrets, hopelessness and thinking that I was wasting my life and caring about everyone else and never myself. DH didnt want to know, never helped despite me working killer shift patterns, raising 3 kids, house etc etc, endless......I was never considered and unappreciated to say the least..
I tried explaining and he thought I was nutz. Wasnt prepared to have a stab at doing things together, SO had no alternative but to do them alone.
Started degree course, organised kids and changed job. Returned to enjoying live bands (by myself), had a re style and got myself feeling happy in my own skin. Wrinkles and saggy bits dont seem to matter much now Im 58.
Now run my own business, kids at Uni or working , I find that I actually enjoy being me. Oh yea, dumped DH as decided needed to please myself and not him as he was never going to please me!
I have gained confidence, enjoy who I am and what I am doing, still do the concerts and clubbing, dress how I want to (have been known to do the goth thing)and dont have to apologise to anyone.
I wouldnt say its been easy, and hopefully your DH will be prepared to change as mine wouldnt. Its very hard going it alone.
Now live with young man who met 6 years ago who accepts me for me, doesnt bother about the lines, thinning hair , expanding waistline.
He reckons its all about confidence, which I now have in bucket fulls.
So think you should find yourself other interests, have a makeover and learn to value yourself and all you do.
Its your life, and if you are disatisfied with it, try to make some changes. Make time for you.
I know this is my story but hope some of it will be of use.

Conundrumish · 31/01/2010 20:02

I didn't find 40 too bad as though I was sad as I had just miscarried, we were desperately trying for a third child and were eventually successful. Now I am nearly 45 though things are looking a bit grim - DC3 starts school this September, reminding me that I have given up my career and have nothing to go back to (esp in a (near) recession). Would like another baby but doubt we can now. I have developed a jowl over the last fortnight and my always flatish tummy now resembles a bowl of junket on a see-saw. We don't have the budget for me to go out and have fun, but I'm hoping to find some sort of money earning opportunity to ensure that we both can.

MarineIguana · 31/01/2010 22:02

The other thing I have realised is there is so much that being 40 can't take away from you - little pleasures like an ice-cold glass of wine at the end of a long day or your favourite flowers or getting into a lovely new-made bed. I think when I was young I thought being "old" was about being miserable and not enjoying life any more. But in fact a lot of the older people I know, once their kids grow up etc., seem to spend most of their time just enjoying themselves.

liege · 01/02/2010 08:44

I"m 47 and I don't realy care... I try to take care of myself but I'm not obsessed. I do have flabby bits : my stomac isn't as flat as it used to be (I have 5 kids ), my breast, well... (I have 5 kids), my face... well (I have...joys and sorrows). But I still look young enough to be satisfied by myself.
Age is in you mind ok, BUT in your boby to... What do we have to do??? A good compromise between mind and body. Do not try to inverse the curse of time but do not give up... Sometimes it is easy, sometimes it is not.
Anyway we have to face the facts.
So put on a brave face and go on living and smiling : it's the best of all facelifts!
PS : Please excuse my poor english : I'm a frenchspeaking belgian girl.

MitsubishiWarrioress · 01/02/2010 09:01

It is so corny but now I am getting older I really do appreciate the simple things in life. I took the DC's out for breakfast on saturday...and we laughed loads, and NO washing up.
I do get 'me' time when they go to their dads... but the road to being an LP has been painful and soul destroying.

I am learning. I went for a walk to a local spot that feels like my 'church'. Me, the air I breathe, the ground I walk on and knowing the shouting has stopped.
And then I went home to paint. A feeling of inner serenity and simple joy.

Is there stuff you don't really 'need' to do to make time..? pay to get your ironing done, have a cleaner,

Big changes can of course be important but sometimes the little ones can have a profound impact as well...

AnyFucker · 01/02/2010 10:16

getting older is ok....

because I really don't fancy the alternative

MitsubishiWarrioress · 01/02/2010 10:24

Good point AF...

bbpants · 01/02/2010 10:36

Thank god for this thread. My 40th is imminent and I've been agonising about it. I am rather susceptible to self pity and do need a kick up the backside occasionally, but now I know I'm not the only one, it's given me the impetus to get on with it.

Thank you all.

dustythedolphin · 01/02/2010 13:48

Agree with Moondog

I'm 47 and in a similar situation, so in the past few years I have set myself little targetsw.

I did an MSc (hard but enjoyed every second), learnt to swim, did some fundraising and got involved in some campaigns.

We've just emigrated to Ireland and I'm having to start from scratch again - wouldn't recommend anything quite so drastic but it might help to do a list of what you are boored with and another list of things you'd really like to do, for example join a group or learn something new, then you can stop doing some of the stuff you are bored with and start a couple of new things.

A few little challenges should make you feel all new again

Can't advise on the DH problem, I have much the same issue here. Perhaps you and I should swap husbands or something

Bonsoir · 01/02/2010 13:52

You need to expand your horizons in some way. Study can be a very good way of doing this, or some kind of work (paid or voluntary). You have got to work on your own personal development. Where do you live, town or rural?

Hunty · 01/02/2010 16:28

Bless you, horrible to feel this way, must confess to feeling like that at various times over the last 4 years, have DS 6 and DS 2....I am 38!!! I then have to take myself in hand and look at all the wonfderful things I have..........stop thinking grass is greener on the other side...as I am good at that and start living..........I have recently undertaken a big move with DP job and to be honest was dreading leaving everything i knew and loved behind......but so far so good...yes I have my wobbly moments but the biggest thing it has taught me is its my life, children or no children, only I can change what I don't like, or don't want to do! Yes its helpful if you have a supportive partner (which luckily I have, one of the things i forget sometimes!!!)and I think they have to play a part when you feel like you do.....make an effort to support you or get home an hour or so earlier so you can have a bit of time for yourself. Kedep lines of communication open at all times. I know its easier said than done but I think these feelings are normal and being a mum of young children is so thankless and same old same old at times, BUT again they are alive, healthy and needing you so much that has to be a great thing. Small steps, don't set to higher goals and expectations and soon I am sure you will feel a bit better. Also about the looks thing......again something I get hung up about often as feel a worn out hag........but again I think everyone does at times, and to be someone who always looks fantastic all of the time must be so exhausting, so be pleased that you are normal and no doubt gorgeous.....what we see in the mirror is not how others see us.....confidence, liking yourself suddenly lights you up. I agree about the fling thing not being a good move..........god if I felt down before embarking on a fling it must make you feel twice as bad in the long run. Good luck tiredandgrumpy!!! you sound like you have your head screwed on so am sure you will move forward eventually. Hey you'll notice a thread like yours on here next week when i am not feeling very rational and it all gets too much!!!!!!!!

Hunty · 01/02/2010 16:41

PS Thought what chaostheaory mum said was very helpful and hits the nail on the head......we are not alone with these thoughts which helps a lot, well it helps me anyway!!!!!!!! Mumsnet is like thearpy!!! without the costs!!!!!!! THANKS

StartingToSeeTheLight · 01/02/2010 17:07

hi Dusty...tis moi. A df posted this in her FB status and it just seems to sum up my feelings at the moment....

Life is too short to wake up with regrets. So love the people who treat you right. Forget about the one's who don't. Believe everything happens for a reason. If you get a second chance, grab it with both hands. If it changes your life, let it. Nobody said life would be easy, they just promised it would be worth it.

Lovely isn't it?

Geckle05 · 01/02/2010 17:30

I'm so relieved to hear all this (if that doesn't sound odd) because I see so many of my own thoughts and emotions. I'm 42 and realised that I'm obviously going through a mid life crisis too. I've had more than the average number of children and got fat and frumpy in the process - but now my youngest is in school I'm doing a lot of running and have got my figure and looks back. I have all sorts of reasons to be grateful for my life - beautiful children, a husband who is at heart kind and an ok lifestyle, but I have an education and have been a SAHM for the past 15 years and feel like I've been doing things all that time for other people and not for myself. Don't get me wrong, I adore my children and they are all very wanted - but two years ago I began an affair. It was scary I guess the danger was a part of the thrill. My husband doesn't know and I will never tell him, whatever happens. I'm not going to start making excuses for myself because I know infidelity is wrong, but for the first time in years I felt like an attractive woman, and my own person that had something to say that was not about being a wife or a mother - believe it or not the conversations were far more important to both of us than anything else. Having said that I wish I had never begun it, and echo an earlier poster who said that if she had known how it would mess with her head she would not have started.

If I can make a general point, I think it is hard for mothers in our society. If we were living in a tribal village (or a comuunity in say, Italy..) there would be plenty of other "mothers" (grandmothers, aunts sisters) to help us with our children, and share the the burden of parenting. The way we live I feel is very isolating and we are expected just to cope. I personally don't live near any family - just the nature of my husband's work. I love my children to pieces and bless every day I have them with me, but it is hard, relentless work, and I think it is hardly surprising that after years you start to lose sight of who you are. I'm not trying to make excuses for myself - well I suppose that's just what I'm doing in a way - and I know that my "affair" must stop once and for all (we rarely see each other, so it really is only about talking) so that I can got back to nurturing my marriage, or at least to find out without distraction whether we can make it work. I am slowly coming to realise the upsides of a relationship like the one I have with my husband. Ok, the fireworks are gone but we can still make each other laugh, and we have fantastic children. I just hope I haven't left it too late, or done irreperable damage. I owe it to them to keep the home they depend on for their sense of security, in one piece. At least that is, if it is in my power to do so.

I don't expect when I have made such a mess of things that anyone would listen to my advice, but firstly, please try and avoid going "elsewhere." It's an evasion tactic, in my case anyway, to avoid the uncomfortable truth of what is happening at home and in your head. "Am I still attractive? Is this it, till I die? Will I ever be anything but someone's mother again?" I think recognising your own creativity is important and it is heartening to read the upbeat posts of older posters if they will forgive me for referring to them like that. I hope to be as postive as they are in my fifties, but know I won't get there without help. I have had tough emotional times over the last ten years which I can't be specific about, but am sure they contributed to my crisis. So.. try and remember what gave you pleasure, what you loved doing before you had children and attempt to re-capture that spark now. What you are is still in there!

Sorry for great length, but I needed to get some of that off my chest. Good luck with it all. Oh, and if you haven't already as an earlier poster suggested, take up running! It is a good feeling to be fitter than you've ever been, and is great for chasing those negative thoughts away.

dustythedolphin · 03/02/2010 12:05

Staringtoseethe light - that's lovely

But who are you?

StartingToSeeTheLight · 03/02/2010 17:07

another WL expat (but only down south!)....

myfriendflicka · 03/02/2010 18:06

My husband died of cancer when he was 47 - very traumatic.
Please enjoy your life - I am now 50 and everything for me is coloured by what happened and the fact that we should enjoy life, love our friends and family, and try to get the most out of being here while we still are!
That is absolutely fundamental.

I have found regular exercise helps feelings of depression, and a network of good friends is crucial as is finding things that you really enjoy and doing them when you can. Love is nice if you can find it, as is a career if you can find that, but they are not the be all and end all. The first three I have listed have really helped me through.

If this sounds simplistic it isn't meant to.

dustythedolphin · 04/02/2010 08:59

startingtoseethelight - did you used to do a lot of recycling?

RoRoMummy · 16/02/2010 13:59

Oh THANK YOU all - have just read through various posts which sound like I could have written them myself.

2009 was a tough year: deaths of 3 people, final diagnosis of own illness (Underactive Thyroid), depression, husband having 'emotional' (not physical) affair, husband's redundancy, general feelings of being crap, disorganised and house a permanent tip. So far this year I have had: two wisdom teeth yanked out of my head with just a local followed by Appendix operation. Beginning to wonder if I have been cursed!!!

Anyway: result of all of this seems to be a Midlife Crisis. Am wondering if I still love my husband or not, feeling frustrated about giving up my life/career to my children and feeling fat/old/saggy/wrinkly.

It feels a bit better knowing there are others feeling same. I haven't done anything drastic yet: no affair (although I like imagining one!).

BUT: I am also suddenly feeling very horny, have started buying new undies for my own amusement. Sex life with hubby NOT good.
Anyone else feeling like this?

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