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50 top tips for pleasing your man [grin] its long but worth it

456 replies

Mamazon · 28/01/2009 01:24

Preface: YES, there are other groups that list all the mistakes men make, and YES, we are aware that they exist, but they are not important in this group... focus around here is only around the funny ass mistakes that women make. And if you have a problem with that, don't bother reading any further, go back to where you came from, and spare us all the aggravation! Anyway, onto the list...

  1. Assuming he can get a raging hard on when it suits you. Contrary to popular belief, men can't just flip a switch and get it up because you decided to stop being a frigid bitch. Getting it hard is your job. I suggest you figure it out.
  1. Thinking that kissing needs to be this sweet romantic thing all the time. Sometimes pressing your lips against your partner's mouth while you get off is hot. It depends on the situation.
  1. Leaving him responsible for your orgasm. You know what gets you off. Tell him. If you don't, it's your own fault when he's snoozing and you're all wound up.
  1. Expecting him to cuddle. Men and women are wired differently. Sex makes most women want to talk and bond and all that shit. It makes men pass out. It's a biological thing. Stop fighting it, and stop holding it over his head, it's not his fault.
  1. Expecting him to fall asleep with you in his arms. That shit is uncomfortable after a while. A little snuggling isn't unreasonable, but when it's time to actually sleep? An arm draped over you should suffice.
  1. Expecting him to always lay on the charm and romance. Sometimes, that's nice. Sometimes. But expecting him to be all roses and candles all the time is like expecting you to act like a pornstar all the time. If you're not willing to do that, don't expect him to switch for you.
  1. Being selfish in bed. Regardless of the shit that Cosmo forces down your throats, sex is NOT just about women. Get over it.
  1. Using Cosmo as a sex bible. I dont know who comes up with half that shit, but I'm pretty sure they need counseling.
  1. Whining when he pushes your head down on his cock instead of stroking your hair. Know why he's pushing, skippy? Because you aren't doing it right, and have apparently ignored the other clues he's given you. Pay attention to the signals that he's sending you.
  1. Not moving at all. Missionary is not an excuse to do nothing.

  2. Expecting him to undress himself with any amount of grace. He's about to get some pussy. Be glad he bothered to take his pants all the way off. If it concerns you so much, undress him yourself.

  3. Not shaving your legs. If you want your guy stubble free, you better get out the razor.

  4. Allowing your crotch to resemble the Amazon. Yes, waxing hurts. Yes, some people don't want to go bare. That's fine. If you like bush, great. If you have sensitive skin and can't shave, I feel for you. But for the love of Christ, trim that shit if you want him to spend any time down there.

  5. Assuming that sex means a relationship. The only relationship you have is that he has now stuck his hoo-hoo dilly in your cha-cha. That's as far as it goes unless otherwise noted.

  6. Withholding oral sex just because you're ragging. He didn't do it. Unless you want him to withhold oral sex because he's hormonal, I suggest you get some knee pads.

  7. Expecting him to figure out what you like by what noise you make. Use your words. Have you ever actually heard what you sound like while you're having sex? If you heard yourself on tape, and someone asked you to explain what was causing you to make that noise, 67% of women would respond with answers like "I stubbed my toe" "I ran up the steps" or "I was putting up drywall".

  8. Leaving condoms up to him. If you're sexually active and insist that he uses a condom, I suggest buying a box and keeping it by your bed. Not all men keep them on them, and it's just as much your responsibility as it is his. If you think that makes you a slut, you shouldn't be having sex anyway. Go back to Junior High.

  9. Getting your undies in a bunch when he talks dirty. A little fantasy can be fun. If he treats you with respect all the time, you shouldn't be offended when he calls you his dirty little slut. When he calls you a whore and tells you to cum, it's his way of showing that he cares if you get off. Stop being a sissy.

  10. Refusing to be spontaneous. I know this is shocking, but sometimes sex OUTSIDE of the bedroom is fun.

  11. Dissing quickies because it's not some slow sensual ordeal. Sex is a dynamic thing. There's an awesome raw energy when you only have 20 minutes but having to have someone so bad that you do it half clothed against the wall. Readjust your thinking.

  12. Being too much of a pussy to tell him what is or isn't acceptable before you start bumping uglies. Be honest. If he asks if he can poke you in the butt, and you giggle and say NO like it's an invitation, don't look surprised when he "accidentally" sticks his cock in your butt.

  13. Expecting him to undress you. Women put a bra on almost every day. I know for a fact that getting them off isn't always easy. Help a brother out.

  14. Undressing in the dark. If you're shy, dim the lights, but give the man something to see. No ripping off the clothes and diving under the covers, either.

  15. Refusing to get on top. There's no reason men should have to do all the work.

  16. Getting that bored look on your face. Men are more visual than women. Give him something to look at. Get on top and arch your back a little bit. Move. Do something to indicate that you 1) are not dead and 2) didn't suffer a minor stroke rendering you unable to move.

  17. Expecting him to do all the touching when you're riding him. It's your body, you're used to it. Play with your tits, rub your clit, do something to make his job easier.

  18. Being too afraid to guide your partner's hand when he's touching you. Don't like the way he's doing it? Gently take his hand and show him how you like it.

  19. Getting into bed, getting naked, fooling around and then deciding that you just want to cuddle, then getting offended when he doesn't. It's your choice to stop, but don't look all fucking surprised when he's confused. You got him naked in your bed, what else did you think was going to happen?

  20. Refusing to let him take control. So you are a feminist. Big fucking deal. Letting him call the shots doesn't make you any less of one.

  21. Refusing to take control. It's ok to crawl across a bed to him on all fours, push him down and crawl on top. It's not his responsibility to start things all the time.

  22. Forgetting that he has a body that likes to be touched, too. Men have things like backs and shoulders and stomachs and other parts that are fun to kiss and touch. You miss a lot of good places by concentrating solely on his penis.

  23. Ignoring his balls. Seriously, they are there. Kiss them, lick them, suck on them, make a relationship with them, just don't ignore them.

  24. Leaving him to his own devices. Nothing is worse than a girl who gets you most of the way off and then bolts because she doesn't want to deal with the mess.

  25. Launching into some speech about not being an object for sex when he tries to titty fuck you. Jesus Christ, just push them together and enjoy yourself. You get a great view.

  26. Expecting him to handle you like a porcelain doll. I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're not going to break, sister. So doing it against the wall gives you a bruise on your shoulder. Look at it later and giggle at the memory.

  27. Refusing to try things in the name of "making love". You're not making anything. You are naked. With another person. Making strange faces and weird noises. Stop romanticizing it.

  28. Taking things way too seriously. Sex is funny. Actually it's hilarious. Somewhere along the line, someone is going to fall off of a bed, hit their head on a lighting fixture, accidentally kick a midget or trip over a goat. It's how you deal with it that really matters.

  29. Throwing a bitch fit when he asks for a threesome. It's the American dream. (Quick interjection - one request for a threesome is ok. Every 5 minutes, not so much. Know the difference).

  30. Continuing a blow job knowing that you have god-awful cotton mouth. Really. Grab a bottle of water.

  31. Nails. It's one thing tracing them up and down your partners back. It's another when you snag the goods with a claw.

  32. Bitching when you get jizz on you. You're having sex. That will happen. That's the entire point of sex. Establish where he can and can't jizz and be done with it. Remember, it tightens the pores.

  33. Not making any noises at all. Moan. Scream his name. Something so he knows he's the best you've had, even if he isn't.

  34. Faking orgasms. Just. Don't. By faking (IF he believes you) he thinks he's doing everything right. And if he doesn't know it's not working, he's not going to change it. Starting a vicious cycle of unfulfilling sex which will eventually be very damaging to his ego.

  35. Not washing before sex. I know that sex is spontaneous, this is more of a general statement. If you haven't showered that day, and things smell a little... fishy... perhaps demanding oral sex is a little ridiculous of you.

  36. Anything that involves inserting anything into his body that he has not specifically approved beforehand. I don't care what Cosmo says, some things are simply not pleasant surprises.

  37. Refusing to use oils/whipped cream/other messy but fun things because you have these rare Egyptian cotton sheets that were made by hand by the only person alive capable of sewing that pattern. They'll wash.

  38. Doing all of your before bed things before sex. Yes, sleeping with makeup on is bad. Now is not the time to remove it, you can do that later. And really fucking you with your hair in a ratty scrunchie with acne cream on your nose is not all it's cracked up to be.

  39. Cleaning up after sex. Wiping the splooge off is one thing. But changing the sheets immediately so you can get the other ones in the washer and then sanitizing everything your naked body might have possibly passed by is not the way to do it.

  40. Making a big deal out of it if he loses his hard on. This is not an interrogation, or 20 questions. It happens, he's probably mortified and you are NOT helping. Refrain from using phrases like "it happens to every guy". Just move to other activities until it gets hard again, and if it doesn't, get off another way with him. He's still capable of getting you off. Mumbling "forget it" and rolling over are not ok.

  41. Asking questions right afterwards. The woman equivalent of "was it good for you?". Now is not a good time to ask "What this means". Right now, it means he probably needs to take a drink, a leak and a nap, perhaps not in that order.

OP posts:
cocolepew · 28/01/2009 17:55

There was no 'humour' or 'light-heartedness' about any of that. It was vile, woman hating crap. Disgusting.

escape · 28/01/2009 17:58

not particularly offended (rhino hide), just think it was crap. Neither amusing nor informative.

OhBling · 28/01/2009 18:00

"How many of you are there? No wonder blokes like this think they can get away with it.

I just pray that these women who think it is hilarious aren't teaching their little boys that treating a woman in this manner is Ok. "

I was wrong on the "no one thought it was hilarious". But you are putting words in our mouths here. No one things it's okay for blokes to force a woman to have sex. Some of us thought this piece which was trying to lightheartedly offer some comments on sex was not offensive. The piece didn't say, "if I want to do anything I want to you any time you must just put up with it."

Ultimately, we're all reading it differently. You think the writer is saying that woman should put up with violent sex and be called degrading terms. I think the writer is saying that they like it when women try other things.

The headline says "tips". It doesn't say - do all of these 50 things or you're a complete prude.

Let's go back to number 35:
"35. Expecting him to handle you like a porcelain doll. I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're not going to break, sister. So doing it against the wall gives you a bruise on your shoulder. Look at it later and giggle at the memory.". I don't read that as saying, "you have to be hurt for sex to be good". FGS. I just think that if you're a bit worried about a bruise but it's still fun right now, then lighten up and go with the flow.

BalloonSlayer · 28/01/2009 18:01

I strongly suspect that Mamazon posted it to find out what Mumsnetters think of it, and will be reading the posts with interest.

Another vote here for it being woman-hating crap, if you are keeping score, Mamazon.

spicemonster · 28/01/2009 18:01

How funny that you're the first one to use the word 'virgin' in this context mocca. Seems like you're buying into the madonna/whore dichotomy as much as your DH is.

Is is possible to really enjoy filthy sex and find this list repellant you know.

MorrisZapp · 28/01/2009 18:06

ohbling, the point is consent.

Some people enjoy having vigorous sex that leaves bruises. I have no issue with that.

But the writer of this clearly thinks that if somebody doesn't like being bruised then it's basically tough becuase he isn't about to treat anybody like a porcelain doll.

Ditto the bit about bum sex. It doesn't say 'I really like it so please try it', it says 'If you say no in the wrong tone of voice don't complain later'.

I'm struggling to see how anybody can read that as light hearted.

themildmanneredjanitor · 28/01/2009 18:06

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BalloonSlayer · 28/01/2009 18:07

In the interests of pedantry - Mamazon's thread title calls them tips, but the actual article says it is a list of "the funny ass mistakes that women make."

So "Throwing a bitch fit when he asks for a threesome." is a mistake.

(Dear Deirdre, I can't stop crying, I made such a terrible mistake. I really really wanted a complete wankstain for a boyfriend but I was stupid enough to get upset when he asked for a threesome with my best friend. Now I'll have to put up with a nice decent respectful man instead. I can't believe I was so stupid.)

Watusi · 28/01/2009 18:08

Bling,

' you are putting words in our mouths here. No one things it's okay for blokes to force a woman to have sex.'

-I didn't say anyone did. I said I hope that people who thought the OP was funny aren't teaching their children that treating a woman in such an extremely derogatory fashion is somehting to be laughed about.

' Some of us thought this piece which was trying to lightheartedly offer some comments on sex was not offensive.'

-understood.

' The piece didn't say, "if I want to do anything I want to you any time you must just put up with it." '

-er, it implied that in several places in various different (and rather imaginative) ways.

'Ultimately, we're all reading it differently.'

-agreed.

'The headline says "tips". It doesn't say - do all of these 50 things or you're a complete prude'.

  • however it is again strongly implied in multiple places.

I still don't get why you are singling me out and telling me that you think I want to get worked up. What about everyone else?

MorrisZapp · 28/01/2009 18:10

The kind of inadequates who think like the guy in the article are the types to be the first to kick off if anybody disrespects their mum or sister.

I always think, if it's OK for you to treat women like this, then it's OK for other men to treat your sister like this. If you don't like that idea, then you need to address how you treat women.

Watusi · 28/01/2009 18:10

ROFL at Balloon slayer

dittany · 28/01/2009 18:11

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Stretch · 28/01/2009 18:11

TMMJ, I disagree with people removing clothes for money, hate the removal pubic hair, and hate porn with a passion.

I found most of it amusing, there were some parts that were completely off.

I didn't really give it much thought. I have read plently of ones like that about men. Like I said, maybe I am naive, but I have never had relationships like that, so wouldn't neccessarily see it the way some people do.

spicemonster · 28/01/2009 18:12

Very good point MorrisZapp.

MorrisZapp · 28/01/2009 18:12

yup, lol balloonslayer, great post

MorrisZapp · 28/01/2009 18:13

thank you spice

Watusi · 28/01/2009 18:16

VG Morris. Absolutely right.

Dittany, that's interestingly put. My first lover did hurt me - I don't think he meant to but he didn't care about it iyswim

I took it to mean sex hurts
Take it or leave it

It was the kind of relationship where I had to take what I could anyway, which wasn't much tbh
I was quite self destructive in the name of 'love'

I'd never put up with it now. I imagine some people never really learnt that there's another way.

Watusi · 28/01/2009 18:17

No he did actually

He was a masochistic bastard

anything outdoors in january was alright
Cosy bed and candlelight, erm, no - he had to be somewhere else suddenly! Git.

MorrisZapp · 28/01/2009 18:19

Me too watusi, I had a relationship with a guy who just wanted his own gratification regardless of my feelings. I was young and stupid at the time and let him away with it for longer then I should have.

The article reads like is was written by a very young man who hasn't yet had any real adult relationships.

Watusi · 28/01/2009 18:19

In an interesting juxtaposition

using another thread title with a little

I could never have sex with a man who holds his pen like a knife

Winebeforepearls · 28/01/2009 18:19

Couldn't read it all the way through either, but clearly an offensive, misogynist rant that makes me feel rather sick and scared for our 3 girls.

Winebeforepearls · 28/01/2009 18:20

Please tell me it was originally composed by a damaged 16-yr-old???

Watusi · 28/01/2009 18:20

Or perhaps a slightly older man who still hasn't had that experience iyswim

and is rather cross about it

Watusi · 28/01/2009 18:21

did anyone get my rather deep play on words there
I thought it was good anyway

allgonebellyup · 28/01/2009 18:21

What A COMPLETE PILE OF SHITE