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50 top tips for pleasing your man [grin] its long but worth it

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Mamazon · 28/01/2009 01:24

Preface: YES, there are other groups that list all the mistakes men make, and YES, we are aware that they exist, but they are not important in this group... focus around here is only around the funny ass mistakes that women make. And if you have a problem with that, don't bother reading any further, go back to where you came from, and spare us all the aggravation! Anyway, onto the list...

  1. Assuming he can get a raging hard on when it suits you. Contrary to popular belief, men can't just flip a switch and get it up because you decided to stop being a frigid bitch. Getting it hard is your job. I suggest you figure it out.
  1. Thinking that kissing needs to be this sweet romantic thing all the time. Sometimes pressing your lips against your partner's mouth while you get off is hot. It depends on the situation.
  1. Leaving him responsible for your orgasm. You know what gets you off. Tell him. If you don't, it's your own fault when he's snoozing and you're all wound up.
  1. Expecting him to cuddle. Men and women are wired differently. Sex makes most women want to talk and bond and all that shit. It makes men pass out. It's a biological thing. Stop fighting it, and stop holding it over his head, it's not his fault.
  1. Expecting him to fall asleep with you in his arms. That shit is uncomfortable after a while. A little snuggling isn't unreasonable, but when it's time to actually sleep? An arm draped over you should suffice.
  1. Expecting him to always lay on the charm and romance. Sometimes, that's nice. Sometimes. But expecting him to be all roses and candles all the time is like expecting you to act like a pornstar all the time. If you're not willing to do that, don't expect him to switch for you.
  1. Being selfish in bed. Regardless of the shit that Cosmo forces down your throats, sex is NOT just about women. Get over it.
  1. Using Cosmo as a sex bible. I dont know who comes up with half that shit, but I'm pretty sure they need counseling.
  1. Whining when he pushes your head down on his cock instead of stroking your hair. Know why he's pushing, skippy? Because you aren't doing it right, and have apparently ignored the other clues he's given you. Pay attention to the signals that he's sending you.
  1. Not moving at all. Missionary is not an excuse to do nothing.

  2. Expecting him to undress himself with any amount of grace. He's about to get some pussy. Be glad he bothered to take his pants all the way off. If it concerns you so much, undress him yourself.

  3. Not shaving your legs. If you want your guy stubble free, you better get out the razor.

  4. Allowing your crotch to resemble the Amazon. Yes, waxing hurts. Yes, some people don't want to go bare. That's fine. If you like bush, great. If you have sensitive skin and can't shave, I feel for you. But for the love of Christ, trim that shit if you want him to spend any time down there.

  5. Assuming that sex means a relationship. The only relationship you have is that he has now stuck his hoo-hoo dilly in your cha-cha. That's as far as it goes unless otherwise noted.

  6. Withholding oral sex just because you're ragging. He didn't do it. Unless you want him to withhold oral sex because he's hormonal, I suggest you get some knee pads.

  7. Expecting him to figure out what you like by what noise you make. Use your words. Have you ever actually heard what you sound like while you're having sex? If you heard yourself on tape, and someone asked you to explain what was causing you to make that noise, 67% of women would respond with answers like "I stubbed my toe" "I ran up the steps" or "I was putting up drywall".

  8. Leaving condoms up to him. If you're sexually active and insist that he uses a condom, I suggest buying a box and keeping it by your bed. Not all men keep them on them, and it's just as much your responsibility as it is his. If you think that makes you a slut, you shouldn't be having sex anyway. Go back to Junior High.

  9. Getting your undies in a bunch when he talks dirty. A little fantasy can be fun. If he treats you with respect all the time, you shouldn't be offended when he calls you his dirty little slut. When he calls you a whore and tells you to cum, it's his way of showing that he cares if you get off. Stop being a sissy.

  10. Refusing to be spontaneous. I know this is shocking, but sometimes sex OUTSIDE of the bedroom is fun.

  11. Dissing quickies because it's not some slow sensual ordeal. Sex is a dynamic thing. There's an awesome raw energy when you only have 20 minutes but having to have someone so bad that you do it half clothed against the wall. Readjust your thinking.

  12. Being too much of a pussy to tell him what is or isn't acceptable before you start bumping uglies. Be honest. If he asks if he can poke you in the butt, and you giggle and say NO like it's an invitation, don't look surprised when he "accidentally" sticks his cock in your butt.

  13. Expecting him to undress you. Women put a bra on almost every day. I know for a fact that getting them off isn't always easy. Help a brother out.

  14. Undressing in the dark. If you're shy, dim the lights, but give the man something to see. No ripping off the clothes and diving under the covers, either.

  15. Refusing to get on top. There's no reason men should have to do all the work.

  16. Getting that bored look on your face. Men are more visual than women. Give him something to look at. Get on top and arch your back a little bit. Move. Do something to indicate that you 1) are not dead and 2) didn't suffer a minor stroke rendering you unable to move.

  17. Expecting him to do all the touching when you're riding him. It's your body, you're used to it. Play with your tits, rub your clit, do something to make his job easier.

  18. Being too afraid to guide your partner's hand when he's touching you. Don't like the way he's doing it? Gently take his hand and show him how you like it.

  19. Getting into bed, getting naked, fooling around and then deciding that you just want to cuddle, then getting offended when he doesn't. It's your choice to stop, but don't look all fucking surprised when he's confused. You got him naked in your bed, what else did you think was going to happen?

  20. Refusing to let him take control. So you are a feminist. Big fucking deal. Letting him call the shots doesn't make you any less of one.

  21. Refusing to take control. It's ok to crawl across a bed to him on all fours, push him down and crawl on top. It's not his responsibility to start things all the time.

  22. Forgetting that he has a body that likes to be touched, too. Men have things like backs and shoulders and stomachs and other parts that are fun to kiss and touch. You miss a lot of good places by concentrating solely on his penis.

  23. Ignoring his balls. Seriously, they are there. Kiss them, lick them, suck on them, make a relationship with them, just don't ignore them.

  24. Leaving him to his own devices. Nothing is worse than a girl who gets you most of the way off and then bolts because she doesn't want to deal with the mess.

  25. Launching into some speech about not being an object for sex when he tries to titty fuck you. Jesus Christ, just push them together and enjoy yourself. You get a great view.

  26. Expecting him to handle you like a porcelain doll. I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're not going to break, sister. So doing it against the wall gives you a bruise on your shoulder. Look at it later and giggle at the memory.

  27. Refusing to try things in the name of "making love". You're not making anything. You are naked. With another person. Making strange faces and weird noises. Stop romanticizing it.

  28. Taking things way too seriously. Sex is funny. Actually it's hilarious. Somewhere along the line, someone is going to fall off of a bed, hit their head on a lighting fixture, accidentally kick a midget or trip over a goat. It's how you deal with it that really matters.

  29. Throwing a bitch fit when he asks for a threesome. It's the American dream. (Quick interjection - one request for a threesome is ok. Every 5 minutes, not so much. Know the difference).

  30. Continuing a blow job knowing that you have god-awful cotton mouth. Really. Grab a bottle of water.

  31. Nails. It's one thing tracing them up and down your partners back. It's another when you snag the goods with a claw.

  32. Bitching when you get jizz on you. You're having sex. That will happen. That's the entire point of sex. Establish where he can and can't jizz and be done with it. Remember, it tightens the pores.

  33. Not making any noises at all. Moan. Scream his name. Something so he knows he's the best you've had, even if he isn't.

  34. Faking orgasms. Just. Don't. By faking (IF he believes you) he thinks he's doing everything right. And if he doesn't know it's not working, he's not going to change it. Starting a vicious cycle of unfulfilling sex which will eventually be very damaging to his ego.

  35. Not washing before sex. I know that sex is spontaneous, this is more of a general statement. If you haven't showered that day, and things smell a little... fishy... perhaps demanding oral sex is a little ridiculous of you.

  36. Anything that involves inserting anything into his body that he has not specifically approved beforehand. I don't care what Cosmo says, some things are simply not pleasant surprises.

  37. Refusing to use oils/whipped cream/other messy but fun things because you have these rare Egyptian cotton sheets that were made by hand by the only person alive capable of sewing that pattern. They'll wash.

  38. Doing all of your before bed things before sex. Yes, sleeping with makeup on is bad. Now is not the time to remove it, you can do that later. And really fucking you with your hair in a ratty scrunchie with acne cream on your nose is not all it's cracked up to be.

  39. Cleaning up after sex. Wiping the splooge off is one thing. But changing the sheets immediately so you can get the other ones in the washer and then sanitizing everything your naked body might have possibly passed by is not the way to do it.

  40. Making a big deal out of it if he loses his hard on. This is not an interrogation, or 20 questions. It happens, he's probably mortified and you are NOT helping. Refrain from using phrases like "it happens to every guy". Just move to other activities until it gets hard again, and if it doesn't, get off another way with him. He's still capable of getting you off. Mumbling "forget it" and rolling over are not ok.

  41. Asking questions right afterwards. The woman equivalent of "was it good for you?". Now is not a good time to ask "What this means". Right now, it means he probably needs to take a drink, a leak and a nap, perhaps not in that order.

OP posts:
Habbibu · 29/01/2009 22:24

That's even more an insidious argument, ffs. So your experience of honest men is somehow more valid and true than mine, because men wouldn't be honest to me because I'm the kind of person who thinks "frigid bitch" isn't "fun"? Tedious, pointless, dead-end stupid argument. And if that is your experience of men, then I'm sorry.

Boco · 29/01/2009 22:39

God I'm so relieved that this isn't my experience of men. I mean I've met plenty of men who are like this, but wouldn't actually choose to spend time with them. I made dp read it, he could only get to the first few before saying 'What a load of shite. It's obviously written by a very frustrated man who hates women and can't be in a relationship because he's a tosser'.

Watusi · 30/01/2009 06:05

Aha. Will306 - thankyou.

I have read the article here from the link on the 'rebuttal' blog entry, and it appears that the 'mistakes men make in bed' was written by a male sexual counsellor!

I found it mainly informative but it did contain some patronising and possibly rather offensive (but not nearly as offensive as the OP/rebuttal) statements about not thinking about the baseball game and such - all relatively harmless if unfunny and unnecessary. But it was written by a bloke, addressed to other blokes.

I don't think we can say the same for 'Claire', do you?

It has occurred to me that some of the people here who are pro the OP are in fact men...we wouldn't really know, now would we

Watusi · 30/01/2009 06:09

What I meant to say was that the whole premise of Rod's article was to inform and educate, and to assist men in their approach.

Which is 3,000,000 miles away from 'Claire''s failed attempt at humour. Failed because the author's attitude is a worryingly derogatory, angry, unpleasant one - in fact, it's just vicious.

I don't see any more than a tenuous link between the two pieces of writing.

Watusi · 30/01/2009 06:12

Ooh. and take a look at this.

  1. Being selfish in bed. Regardless of the shit that Cosmo forces down your throats, sex is NOT just about women. Get over it. (from OP)
  1. Being selfish in bed. Regardless of the shit that Cosmo forces down our throats, sex is NOT just about us. Get over it.
(from Blog)

What do we make of that? I surmise that whoever lifted it from the blog, has altered it. Why? probably because he is a man.

Watusi · 30/01/2009 06:13
  1. Not shaving your legs. If you want your guy stubble free, you better get out the razor.(op)

  2. Not shaving your legs. Im pretty bad at this myself. But if you want your guy stubble free, you better get out the razor.
    (blog)

How much of this has been changed? And why?

Watusi · 30/01/2009 06:25

Right.

I have altered my perception having read both those articles.

This is what I think now:

The original author of the OP was a woman.

The OP has been altered to be sent round the world - perhaps originally in order to make other women laugh but I suspect strongly that it has been interpreted as 'orders from a bloke' and propagated as such by really nasty blokes everywhere as some kind of manifesto for misogeny.

I see it slightly differently now I know it was written by a woman. It's slightly less offensive but not a great deal tbh. It strikes me as incredibly sad that a woman thinks in that way - at best she sounds rather brainwashed, at worst utterly lacking in self respect and driven by a wish for male approval - which she gets in droves on her blog.

It still makes very disturbing reading IMO.

It is like watching someone hurt themselves for an audience. 'this is how to please men, it hurts you but it's sooo worth it as they will give you loads of 'respect' for understanding that their pleasure comes first and they have - er - no respect for you'.

I think I have to leave this now as I've spent too long on it. I have children to raise somewhere in this house, just have to go and locate them...

LucyEllensmummy · 30/01/2009 10:24

Watsui, i know what you mean - i had a suspicion it was written by a woman!! I honestly think it was written for shock value and nothing else - having slept on it (and stressed out about having spent too much time thinking about it), i do concur that there will be men out there reading it thinking its OK to treat women in such a way and that is vile. I do think however that those sort of limp dicks would have zero social skills and probably never get laid. Lets face it, if you are on the pull and some guys chat up line is along the lines of " come on luv, lets fuck against the wall, you can grin at the bruises later" or something equally as inarticulate - you are going to laugh and send him on his way - home to make friends with his fingers!

LindenAvery · 30/01/2009 10:51

I actualy strongly suspect that this list was written by a well known American man who is doing it purely for financial gain.

He has basically found a way to make money out of men and women who buy into his book(s?) and website as well as those who disagree strongly with his views ( and I don't believe they really are his views just that he is very clever in how to make money out of people).

No doubt there is potential for harm from what he is doing, but at the end of the day he is just making fools out of men and women just to obtain money.I believe just by logging into his website means he receives payment from the advertising revenue and emails like the OP are probably designed to make people search for the reference online.

thecoolerking · 30/01/2009 10:55

i strongly suspect the list was written by a total arse.

dittany · 30/01/2009 14:45

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Janos · 30/01/2009 18:30

Actually something is puzzling me a little about this list.

Well, not the list as such. A few posters here have commented on how downright hilarious it is.

Now, even if you didn't find it offensive I don't see how it's belly laugh hilarious?

Or, perhaps being a frigid man hating feminist wuth low seld esteem I simply don't see the humour?

Janos · 30/01/2009 18:30

Sorry, that should obviously be 'a frigid man hating feminist with low self esteem' who can't type properly

Dropdeadfred · 30/01/2009 18:31

Janos, I agree but noone has been able to actually describe the 'humour' apparently if you don;t get it you just don't get it...

Janos · 30/01/2009 18:35

See...to me something like Fawlty Towers or Father Ted is hilarious.

And of course all humour is subjective but sheesh...

dittany · 30/01/2009 18:36

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Dropdeadfred · 30/01/2009 18:37

'get over yourself sister' 'frigid bitch'
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

oh no it's still not funny

Janos · 30/01/2009 18:54

Hmmmm.

It is a remote possibility I know, but...do you think it could be that it just isn't funny?

lessonlearned · 31/01/2009 00:58

Dittany you have really made me think here. As I said earlier I found the OP boring and could not read any further than the first few lines, it's the kind of stuff my ex DH (vv narcisistic) would have asked me to comment on again and again until I said something he would take issue with!!! Even though I refused to get into it initially he would demand an oppinion until he could rant about 'bloody feminists' - no wonder I looked and thought boring, don't even go there!!!
Lessonlearned? no still learning!!!

solidgoldbullet4myvalentine · 31/01/2009 01:40

I had a piece published on things men should not do in bed. It was much funnier than that. I might hunt it up and post it.

ThePgHedgeWitchIsCrankyBeware · 31/01/2009 10:17

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Dropdeadfred · 31/01/2009 10:22

okay, which were was funny?

ThePgHedgeWitchIsCrankyBeware · 31/01/2009 10:37

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izyboy · 31/01/2009 10:55

TBH I found it boring because those of us who understand that good sex is about mutual pleasure will just think yeah?? Sooo??? Tell me something really useful! Plus the tone of the article is confrontational in a very puerile/juvenile way. Just boooooring and patronising with a misogynistic undertone.

OrmIrian · 31/01/2009 14:39

Ohhhh ..... it was meant to be funny?

By the way I probably could be described as a frigid bitch some of the time. I guess that explains why the belly laugh was not forthcoming .

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