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50 top tips for pleasing your man [grin] its long but worth it

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Mamazon · 28/01/2009 01:24

Preface: YES, there are other groups that list all the mistakes men make, and YES, we are aware that they exist, but they are not important in this group... focus around here is only around the funny ass mistakes that women make. And if you have a problem with that, don't bother reading any further, go back to where you came from, and spare us all the aggravation! Anyway, onto the list...

  1. Assuming he can get a raging hard on when it suits you. Contrary to popular belief, men can't just flip a switch and get it up because you decided to stop being a frigid bitch. Getting it hard is your job. I suggest you figure it out.
  1. Thinking that kissing needs to be this sweet romantic thing all the time. Sometimes pressing your lips against your partner's mouth while you get off is hot. It depends on the situation.
  1. Leaving him responsible for your orgasm. You know what gets you off. Tell him. If you don't, it's your own fault when he's snoozing and you're all wound up.
  1. Expecting him to cuddle. Men and women are wired differently. Sex makes most women want to talk and bond and all that shit. It makes men pass out. It's a biological thing. Stop fighting it, and stop holding it over his head, it's not his fault.
  1. Expecting him to fall asleep with you in his arms. That shit is uncomfortable after a while. A little snuggling isn't unreasonable, but when it's time to actually sleep? An arm draped over you should suffice.
  1. Expecting him to always lay on the charm and romance. Sometimes, that's nice. Sometimes. But expecting him to be all roses and candles all the time is like expecting you to act like a pornstar all the time. If you're not willing to do that, don't expect him to switch for you.
  1. Being selfish in bed. Regardless of the shit that Cosmo forces down your throats, sex is NOT just about women. Get over it.
  1. Using Cosmo as a sex bible. I dont know who comes up with half that shit, but I'm pretty sure they need counseling.
  1. Whining when he pushes your head down on his cock instead of stroking your hair. Know why he's pushing, skippy? Because you aren't doing it right, and have apparently ignored the other clues he's given you. Pay attention to the signals that he's sending you.
  1. Not moving at all. Missionary is not an excuse to do nothing.

  2. Expecting him to undress himself with any amount of grace. He's about to get some pussy. Be glad he bothered to take his pants all the way off. If it concerns you so much, undress him yourself.

  3. Not shaving your legs. If you want your guy stubble free, you better get out the razor.

  4. Allowing your crotch to resemble the Amazon. Yes, waxing hurts. Yes, some people don't want to go bare. That's fine. If you like bush, great. If you have sensitive skin and can't shave, I feel for you. But for the love of Christ, trim that shit if you want him to spend any time down there.

  5. Assuming that sex means a relationship. The only relationship you have is that he has now stuck his hoo-hoo dilly in your cha-cha. That's as far as it goes unless otherwise noted.

  6. Withholding oral sex just because you're ragging. He didn't do it. Unless you want him to withhold oral sex because he's hormonal, I suggest you get some knee pads.

  7. Expecting him to figure out what you like by what noise you make. Use your words. Have you ever actually heard what you sound like while you're having sex? If you heard yourself on tape, and someone asked you to explain what was causing you to make that noise, 67% of women would respond with answers like "I stubbed my toe" "I ran up the steps" or "I was putting up drywall".

  8. Leaving condoms up to him. If you're sexually active and insist that he uses a condom, I suggest buying a box and keeping it by your bed. Not all men keep them on them, and it's just as much your responsibility as it is his. If you think that makes you a slut, you shouldn't be having sex anyway. Go back to Junior High.

  9. Getting your undies in a bunch when he talks dirty. A little fantasy can be fun. If he treats you with respect all the time, you shouldn't be offended when he calls you his dirty little slut. When he calls you a whore and tells you to cum, it's his way of showing that he cares if you get off. Stop being a sissy.

  10. Refusing to be spontaneous. I know this is shocking, but sometimes sex OUTSIDE of the bedroom is fun.

  11. Dissing quickies because it's not some slow sensual ordeal. Sex is a dynamic thing. There's an awesome raw energy when you only have 20 minutes but having to have someone so bad that you do it half clothed against the wall. Readjust your thinking.

  12. Being too much of a pussy to tell him what is or isn't acceptable before you start bumping uglies. Be honest. If he asks if he can poke you in the butt, and you giggle and say NO like it's an invitation, don't look surprised when he "accidentally" sticks his cock in your butt.

  13. Expecting him to undress you. Women put a bra on almost every day. I know for a fact that getting them off isn't always easy. Help a brother out.

  14. Undressing in the dark. If you're shy, dim the lights, but give the man something to see. No ripping off the clothes and diving under the covers, either.

  15. Refusing to get on top. There's no reason men should have to do all the work.

  16. Getting that bored look on your face. Men are more visual than women. Give him something to look at. Get on top and arch your back a little bit. Move. Do something to indicate that you 1) are not dead and 2) didn't suffer a minor stroke rendering you unable to move.

  17. Expecting him to do all the touching when you're riding him. It's your body, you're used to it. Play with your tits, rub your clit, do something to make his job easier.

  18. Being too afraid to guide your partner's hand when he's touching you. Don't like the way he's doing it? Gently take his hand and show him how you like it.

  19. Getting into bed, getting naked, fooling around and then deciding that you just want to cuddle, then getting offended when he doesn't. It's your choice to stop, but don't look all fucking surprised when he's confused. You got him naked in your bed, what else did you think was going to happen?

  20. Refusing to let him take control. So you are a feminist. Big fucking deal. Letting him call the shots doesn't make you any less of one.

  21. Refusing to take control. It's ok to crawl across a bed to him on all fours, push him down and crawl on top. It's not his responsibility to start things all the time.

  22. Forgetting that he has a body that likes to be touched, too. Men have things like backs and shoulders and stomachs and other parts that are fun to kiss and touch. You miss a lot of good places by concentrating solely on his penis.

  23. Ignoring his balls. Seriously, they are there. Kiss them, lick them, suck on them, make a relationship with them, just don't ignore them.

  24. Leaving him to his own devices. Nothing is worse than a girl who gets you most of the way off and then bolts because she doesn't want to deal with the mess.

  25. Launching into some speech about not being an object for sex when he tries to titty fuck you. Jesus Christ, just push them together and enjoy yourself. You get a great view.

  26. Expecting him to handle you like a porcelain doll. I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're not going to break, sister. So doing it against the wall gives you a bruise on your shoulder. Look at it later and giggle at the memory.

  27. Refusing to try things in the name of "making love". You're not making anything. You are naked. With another person. Making strange faces and weird noises. Stop romanticizing it.

  28. Taking things way too seriously. Sex is funny. Actually it's hilarious. Somewhere along the line, someone is going to fall off of a bed, hit their head on a lighting fixture, accidentally kick a midget or trip over a goat. It's how you deal with it that really matters.

  29. Throwing a bitch fit when he asks for a threesome. It's the American dream. (Quick interjection - one request for a threesome is ok. Every 5 minutes, not so much. Know the difference).

  30. Continuing a blow job knowing that you have god-awful cotton mouth. Really. Grab a bottle of water.

  31. Nails. It's one thing tracing them up and down your partners back. It's another when you snag the goods with a claw.

  32. Bitching when you get jizz on you. You're having sex. That will happen. That's the entire point of sex. Establish where he can and can't jizz and be done with it. Remember, it tightens the pores.

  33. Not making any noises at all. Moan. Scream his name. Something so he knows he's the best you've had, even if he isn't.

  34. Faking orgasms. Just. Don't. By faking (IF he believes you) he thinks he's doing everything right. And if he doesn't know it's not working, he's not going to change it. Starting a vicious cycle of unfulfilling sex which will eventually be very damaging to his ego.

  35. Not washing before sex. I know that sex is spontaneous, this is more of a general statement. If you haven't showered that day, and things smell a little... fishy... perhaps demanding oral sex is a little ridiculous of you.

  36. Anything that involves inserting anything into his body that he has not specifically approved beforehand. I don't care what Cosmo says, some things are simply not pleasant surprises.

  37. Refusing to use oils/whipped cream/other messy but fun things because you have these rare Egyptian cotton sheets that were made by hand by the only person alive capable of sewing that pattern. They'll wash.

  38. Doing all of your before bed things before sex. Yes, sleeping with makeup on is bad. Now is not the time to remove it, you can do that later. And really fucking you with your hair in a ratty scrunchie with acne cream on your nose is not all it's cracked up to be.

  39. Cleaning up after sex. Wiping the splooge off is one thing. But changing the sheets immediately so you can get the other ones in the washer and then sanitizing everything your naked body might have possibly passed by is not the way to do it.

  40. Making a big deal out of it if he loses his hard on. This is not an interrogation, or 20 questions. It happens, he's probably mortified and you are NOT helping. Refrain from using phrases like "it happens to every guy". Just move to other activities until it gets hard again, and if it doesn't, get off another way with him. He's still capable of getting you off. Mumbling "forget it" and rolling over are not ok.

  41. Asking questions right afterwards. The woman equivalent of "was it good for you?". Now is not a good time to ask "What this means". Right now, it means he probably needs to take a drink, a leak and a nap, perhaps not in that order.

OP posts:
2manychips · 28/01/2009 15:17

Agree with Mocca- when dh pulls my hair and whispers "slut" I love it. Sometimes he pushes my head down on him, I do the same back. Sometimes I tell him he's frigid! Sometimes he orders me "balls!" sometimes I order him "breasts!" we are equal in bed and we laugh a lot.

12StoneNeedsToBe10 · 28/01/2009 15:22

2manychips

Dropdeadfred · 28/01/2009 15:28

2manychips..thats great I'm happy for you, really. BUT this piece of writing didn't come across as loving to me...and the thing is you and your husband do love each other...and you love him talking to you like that...the list was written for people who's only relationship could be that he;s had his 'xyz' in her'xyz' (can't bring myself to look again to remember his crap nicknames for their anatomy and he is saying that if you don't love it then 'get over yourself'

bumsqueak · 28/01/2009 15:43

Christ, some of you need to lighten up. My dh says "prick engage, brain disengage". I think the point is that men think about sex differently to women, and you shouldn't take offence to it, but understand it in the spirit of the moment....

ShowOfHands · 28/01/2009 15:44

2manychips, what a lovely story.

I think the problem here is whether you believe that use of language and prejudices in the context of a joke can unintentionally reinforce the original conceit. I accept that the taboo can be ironically used in a humorous way and when delivered (perhaps this is the key point) in the right way, I would find if funny I suppose. After all they do say that it's British humour to enjoy the morbid and the forbidden.

The OP, however, is not delivered. There is no acknowledgment of a shared joke. We do not know that the man writing this doctrine is enlightened. And its presentation in bulletpoints and its vile unmediated language, for me, only reinforces what it attempts to mock.

I wonder if we would accept it if it parodied another inequality such as race. Would a list of suitable jobs for 'pakis' that contained 1, corner shop, 2, greengrocers on a corner, 3, haberdashers, on a corner etc be considered funny. I suppose it might in some instances but when confronted with it in black and white, it has the power to offend.

OhBling · 28/01/2009 16:00

Which bit of what he's talking about is taboo though? The words "whore" and "slut" are not, as far as I know, generally completely taboo and as we've seen from this thread, there are lots of women who are happy to have those words used? The difference between this and something similar with racist jokes is that racism genuinely is taboo - men wanting more/dirtier/different sex.

ShowOfHands · 28/01/2009 16:12

I didn't mean this was taboo really, I was illustrating a point while trying to bf and talk on the phone at the same time. I was talking about humour in general really and trying to analyse why this op is offensive to some of us. I merely meant that the taboo can be funny when it's actually serious in essence, just like sexual equality and misconceptions can be funny when inequality is actually no laughing matter.

The reason I mentioned race was because it illustrated the 'delivery' concept. Chris Rock mocks 'niggers' and is very funny. You write his stand-up down, remove the performance element from it and don't identify the author, it reads as very offensive.

watsthestory · 28/01/2009 16:14

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Dropdeadfred · 28/01/2009 16:20

why hasn't Mamazon come back to this thread?

dittany · 28/01/2009 16:20

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Watusi · 28/01/2009 16:20

Well we have seen that two of you enjoy it.

I wouldn't call that 'lots'

Still think it's degrading and nasty

watsthestory · 28/01/2009 16:21

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Watusi · 28/01/2009 16:22

Well said, Dittany

dittany · 28/01/2009 16:23

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Watusi · 28/01/2009 16:24

Who knows Wats

I think one of those awful depressing email circular things you get

watsthestory · 28/01/2009 16:24

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Watusi · 28/01/2009 16:24

that should say

you get sent by some wanker you briefly dated before realising he was a total knobjockey.

Watusi · 28/01/2009 16:25

and a closet homosexual

OhBling · 28/01/2009 16:27

"What a misogystic prick he must be." - now that's offensive. You know nothing about her relationship but you're judging her because both her and her DP have no issue with him calling her a slut in the context of sex?

As for number 35 beign "domestic violence and abusive sex!"? Come on? Surely you don't mean that? Are you telling me that you've never had one heck of a session and come out a bit stiff or sore and thought to yourself, "Oh yeah, we really went for it ". Heck, it's practically the first thing teenagers do to each other when they're discovering sex - give each other bruised necks.

Watusi · 28/01/2009 16:29

However ignorant he is of its cultural significance, it remains a misogynist term

Watusi · 28/01/2009 16:29

Though he is not necessarily a prick

however if some geezer called me a slut or a whore I would slap his face.

ShowOfHands · 28/01/2009 16:30

dittany. That was my point about Chris Rock! When you know it's him then it's funny and acceptable, but if you just wrote it down verbatim, without the shared joke/knowledge and no reference to who wrote it, it's offensive. Hence why you are speculating about the chappie who wrote this. You don't know where it's from and that adds to its offensiveness. I'm really not explaining myself.

I don't like it, I'm trying to explain why for me, it's not funny.

Spidermama · 28/01/2009 16:30

Horrible list. What's happening to young women that this is acceptable?

Habbibu · 28/01/2009 16:30

But the implication of "35. Expecting him to handle you like a porcelain doll. I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're not going to break, sister. So doing it against the wall gives you a bruise on your shoulder. Look at it later and giggle at the memory." is that the woman in question didn't want to be treated roughly, and had the temerity to complain. In fact, that's the tone of the whole thing, and that's why it's pretty vile, imo.

ShowOfHands · 28/01/2009 16:32

I didn't think the op was taboo-breaking. I was saying that humour can be. If you have a woman delivering lines like those of the op, you can see a sort of postmodern, ironic mocking of the subject.

But with the op, you have no context. It is just offensive.

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