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Fiance took part in cult orgies!!

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mocca · 06/01/2009 11:22

I've been with my fiance a whirlwind 8 months. He's warm and lovely and treats me really well. We live 200 miles apart and only see eachother fortnightly but hope to be together in a year or two (both currently have dependent kids). But something from his past is bothering me and made me question taking things further.

About 10 years ago around the time of a painful divorce, he decided to do some work on himself and got heavily involved in a cultish form of martial arts and also mysticism/spiritualism. This involved going to events which involved orgies (apparently uninhibited sex with strangers is a path to spiritual enlightenment!) and he actively took part. He also spent time on a course which involved pairing up with "friends" which again meant lots of shagging in the name of personal development. Visits to the far east also, climbing up volcanos, not eating for days and seeing things. Although he doesn't actively partake now, he talks about it incessantly and doesn't question it and if I dare venture even mild criticism he attacks me and I believe my views make him think less of me as a partner.

He also maintains he has physic powers gained from his martial arts training and still sees apparitions. The latest was at Christmas when he claims that a dead "Grandmaster" visited him in the shower and told him what a good woman I was and that he should nurture me! So I feel I'm with this lovely down-to-earth man who has this strange preoccupation to which he allows no criticism. It scares me a bit - he's like two people and it's making me wary.
Another issue is that we come from different backgrounds - I'm highly educated and although intelligent he's from a working class background and didn't get the breaks I did. I'm no snob or I wouldn't be with him but I have to modify my vocabulary all the time and our families/friends are very different. It's not too much of an issue now but could be in the future. I'm beginning to wonder if I should really slow things down and even whether the relationship has any future. Would be so grateful for opinions.

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LucyEllensmummy · 07/01/2009 09:39

surely no one has taken this seriously?

mocca · 07/01/2009 09:41

Feeling a bit low today because of my decision but coming back here has made me realise I did the right thing. And what's more, you've made me laugh!

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mocca · 07/01/2009 09:42

Just read your post LucyEllen, this was absolutely no joke I can assure you and I'm so grateful for everyone who did take me seriously.

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Remotew · 07/01/2009 10:16

Don't know why anyone would think this was made up. A friend of mine met a guy who was going through a divorce and he claimed he'd had a vision that told him he was 'God' reincarnated. He wasn't even religious. Thank 'god' she was dumped very quickly after he declared he'd fallen in love with her.

Someone I was involved with hadn't told me he was practically living with a woman and her DC as well as staying with another single mum in between. These 'friends' were his true soul sisters who he'd met on these weird spiritual websites. When I asked why he wasn't in an full relationship with one of them he said that he couldn't ruin such special friendships, either that or they were pug ugly. I will never find out now. Phew feels better to get that off my chest.

There are some serious head cases roaming around at there.

mocca · 07/01/2009 11:07

Hi eve, good to hear from you again and good to hear you're feeling better now. It's just really hard to evaluate people isn't it but I suppose you just need to take things really slowly before getting too involved. Onwards and upwards x

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cheerfulvicky · 07/01/2009 15:23

Funny, I was thinking this guy sounds vaguely like someone I know. And he just now posts on facebook about being single again. Hmmm... Nah, it couldn't possibly be.
Mocca, hope you're feeling good. At least you don't have to put up with random dead granddads in the shower now!

lessonlearned · 07/01/2009 16:00

Can I just say again that not everyone involved in shamanism is mental. It does not automatically follow that exploring your spirituality (by whatever means)indicates you are a nutter.
This guy may have been and so may others but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater until you check out what it is (independently)and evalluate the guy nutter then.

Remotew · 07/01/2009 16:14

cheerfulvicky who's guy sound familiar? .

There may well be many sane people exploring spirituality one way or another I don't want to be having a relationship with someone who is delusional. It's hard enough when they are grounded.

mocca · 07/01/2009 16:27

Am intrigued - how old is the guy you know and where does he live Vicky?

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