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Go on, who doesn't think all men are b*stards?

57 replies

darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 19:28

Call me crazy, call me anti feminist but - who doesn't think all men are b*stards?

it seems like there is a complete lack of empathy with the other sex, which, considering us females professing to be open minded and more sympathetic, it surprising.

so, who doesn't think men are to blame for the state of world, the universe and everything?

who, for want of better word, considers them just part of the human race to which we all belong?

for those of you with sons, including me, i'd hate to think of men as stereotypically 'male': i.e., dominating, unable to multitask and relate to others. 'cos thats a hell of a negative role for boys to brought up with.

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thisisyesterday · 23/12/2008 19:29

erm, i don't.
i think a lot are, but i also know a lot of lovely ones.

equally know a lot of quite nasty women

hannahlouhoo · 23/12/2008 19:29

me!!

well sometimes! 99% of the time he is great!

janeite · 23/12/2008 19:29

Me. I actually know more nice men than I do women: they are much easier to get on with, especially the ones that you don't fancy/don't fancy you.

ChasingSquirrels · 23/12/2008 19:29

I don't think they are all bastards, I think a minority are, as are come women.
I do think that some of the stereotypes apply.

southeastastra · 23/12/2008 19:31

well i have two sons so i hope not

Doodle2U · 23/12/2008 19:31

All men are not bastards.

All women are not bitches.

Some men are right eegits.

So are some women.

Why'd you ask?

TarkaLiotta · 23/12/2008 19:32

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darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 19:32

yey. thats encouraging. its true, i do seem to know more nice men then women.

its just, reading this forum, its hard to find a person who actually is willing to say, hang on, have you thought of the other side of the story?

perhaps thats because of the nature of the site.

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Summerfruit · 23/12/2008 19:32

Yep a lots of them are bastard...but not mine, he's lovely !

AaliyahsFirstXmas · 23/12/2008 19:33

There are some nice ones out there and equally there are some nasty women.

It's not the sex it's the deed

Lulumamaloveslatkes · 23/12/2008 19:33

me. i take people as i find them, i have met nasty men & women, luckily, not many of either

you can;t dismiss half the human race as bastards

shootRudolphinthehip · 23/12/2008 19:33

Not me. I hate them all- DH just home (late) and woken the kids up. Am now listening to him fight to get them back in to bed. Arsehole.

darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 19:34

hang on, if you read me post, you'll see i DON'T think all men are b*stards (the title was the hook to get answers).

i ask because its just so dispiriting reading this forum sometimes, when i have a lovely hubby and lovely son and no one seems to stick up for the male of the species.

its just so negative sometimes on here.

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Othersideofthechannel · 23/12/2008 19:34

I get the feeling when I am on here that I must be lucky because most of the men I know are kind and considerate.

darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 19:35

aww, bless rudeythehip, surely you loved him once though ?

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MaryBeWaiting · 23/12/2008 19:36

I have a really lovely DH, who is kind, considerate and does more than his fair share around the house, and he loves me to bits.

As for men in general, I have to say I prefer the company of men, I find them easier to talk to, and easier to "read". I THINK I can be quite blunt sometimes and some women tend to find this offputting (I have Asperger's - at least that is my excuse!)

honestfriend · 23/12/2008 19:37

I think that if you have that attitude, you will end up both truly believing and experiencing it- as a self-fulfilling prophecy. Men have their ways, which are often different to women's, ( they are from Mars, remember) but they aren't all bad, any more than all women are bad.

darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 19:38

they're more straightforward i think, then women generally. but then its all 50/50. i think women can be quite competitive with each other in a nastier way than men. but then sometimes men can be quite underhanded with each other too!

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honestfriend · 23/12/2008 19:39

sorry- your message title is confusing and it took another good read to get to the real content of your message- maybe you should have just said, all men aren't bastards, are they?

darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 19:40

thinking of men as a different species isn't the best way forward really, lol. thinking of them as people, individuals even, might be better.

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darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 19:42

honest, i should, but who'd read that? need a little controversy to get an answer . sorry.

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shootRudolphinthehip · 23/12/2008 19:45

We're all bastards... Merry Christmas

darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 19:47

not a natural santa's elf rudey ?

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CuddlyUnderTheMistletoe · 23/12/2008 19:55

I think the issue is that we only really post about them on here if there is a problem and in that situation, 9 times out of 10 they are being a bastard. That is not to say it is solely the male domain or that all men are bastards.

Perhaps to balance things out there should be a dh/dp appreciation thread somewhere.
(somewhere far, far away so us singletons don't have to hear about it! )

stitch · 23/12/2008 19:56

i dont think all menare bastards. ishould know. i am married to one. but that doesnt mean they are all bastards.