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Go on, who doesn't think all men are b*stards?

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darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 19:28

Call me crazy, call me anti feminist but - who doesn't think all men are b*stards?

it seems like there is a complete lack of empathy with the other sex, which, considering us females professing to be open minded and more sympathetic, it surprising.

so, who doesn't think men are to blame for the state of world, the universe and everything?

who, for want of better word, considers them just part of the human race to which we all belong?

for those of you with sons, including me, i'd hate to think of men as stereotypically 'male': i.e., dominating, unable to multitask and relate to others. 'cos thats a hell of a negative role for boys to brought up with.

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shootRudolphinthehip · 23/12/2008 19:56

Santa's been taking the piss out of me for years. Bah Humbug

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darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 20:16

cuddly, yep, you have the nail on the head. the forum is negative against men. we do need some male appreciation threads somewhere (there was one).

what gets me is on the threads no one seems to see the other side (usually the male). and if they do try, they get flamed for daring to speak against the crowd.

its a forum, what do people expect.
sorry, fuming from other thread.

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izyboy · 23/12/2008 20:32

Of course all men are not bastards. They operate differently to women and over the years have been fed alot of horseshit about 'how real men should behave'. I think alot of men/boys are actually more emotionally vulnerable than women which is why they are more likely to commit suicide. Plus my DS is so loving and placid.

izyboy · 23/12/2008 20:33

ditto DH

izyboy · 23/12/2008 20:35

God that makes them sound so booooring lol

AuraofDora · 23/12/2008 20:38

you kwrong lady op

they are part of everything and i know some damn fine ones

its people innit, woman can be ass holes, too

solidgoldstuffingballs · 23/12/2008 20:38

I certainly don't think all men are bastards. I have lots of lovely male friends and relatives and a DS who I adore. Some men are bastards, thought, and some of those bastard men use male privilege to reinforce and excuse their horrible behaviour. It;s also true that horrible, abusive women (who do exist) get treated much more harshly than some abusive men.

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darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 20:41

i don't think that abusive women get treated more harshly than abusive men, i think its probably that people have stereotyped ideas of male agression and stereotyped ideas of female agression.

(on a good note, had flu this week and felt rubbish so hubby took time off to look after me and the little one. thats a nice man.)

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Hulababy · 23/12/2008 20:42

Well I most certainly don't OP!

I have absolutely no reason to believe that about men. Almost all the men I know are good men, my DH, my dad, my grandad, etc especially so. All are excellent role models in my and my daughter's life. They are kind, caring, loving and all things good.

Yes, there are a minority of men who are not nice and do bad stuff. But equally there are a minority of women who are also very unplasant individuals too.

Tortington · 23/12/2008 20:43

the leaders of the world are brought up in a certain culture, upper mc, board school and the things that go with that.

that culture is quite different from teaching my son to iron his uniform aged 10.

unless you actually believe the people have power - ha haa ha haa haa

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darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 20:43

hey hula, thanks. didn't think they were either. (im the OP)

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solidgoldstuffingballs · 23/12/2008 20:58

I think that one of the most toxic things around is the belief that men and women are seperate but homogenous groups (ie all men are like this, all women are like that). John Gray (Mars 'n' Venus 'n U R talking out of Uranus) is a tosspot who has done no one any favours with his idiotic books.

Hulababy · 23/12/2008 20:59

Ooops, pme day I will actually really all hthreads before posting

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darcysotherhalf · 23/12/2008 21:02

yeah, it is the culture to a certain extent but then it is up to parents to put them on the straight and narrow. boarding school though kinda kills that bit though.

anyways, not sure all influential people are men though.

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WhosForStuffing · 23/12/2008 21:21

Funnily enough my Dad told me to assume all men were b*stards. In his defence, he was dying of cancer and I was just 15 so he was trying to warn me off men, because he wouldn't be around iykwim!

Should have listened to him I think now!

ElenorRigby · 23/12/2008 21:30

Im a feminist who for the most part loves men!

My DP is being somewhat of daft tit type atm tho

findtheriver · 23/12/2008 23:01

I think men are great. Of course there are the few useless numpties. But then you get female versions of those too.

mayorquimby · 24/12/2008 09:41

there's a lot of lazy stereotyping that goes on on this site about men especially (but also about 4x4 drivers,the middle class,the working class etc) and i don't understand why so many people resort to it.

pramspotter · 24/12/2008 10:55

I think that men are inferior. That doesn't mean that all women are angels however.

Men cannot love their families more than they love that primate like urge to shag around. They also cannot see things from anothers perspective or empathise in the same way a woman can. Some are delusional enough to think that they can love their partners, children etc more than their dicks thus they get married and start families. They usually let them down and hurt them.

If it were up to me they would be treated like second class citizens since they have proved over and over again throughout history that they are no better than aggressive dumb animals with a selfish streak. Even if a man is basically a nice person, he cannot change what he really is as a result of all that testosterone....

But I am extremely sexist. If I ran the world they wouldn't even have the right to vote and they would be kept well under control in order to stop the suffering of women and children. What the hell are we doing allowing people who cannot think of anything other than sex and beer,football and aggression the right to have political influence?

I know I sound absolutely bonkers (which I love) but this is my opinion. Women and children will always suffer as long as men are in control. They need to be oppressed or something.

MadameCastafiore · 24/12/2008 10:56

I don't - most of them are tossers to some degree or other but BASTARD is going a bit far!

Iklboo · 24/12/2008 10:57

I don't - I've got more male friends than female (and NO - I'm not tempted and they've never asked)

NomDePlume · 24/12/2008 10:58

I don't think all men are

Some are, most arent.

Kinda like women

mediocrebronze · 24/12/2008 11:00

I don't I'm lucky though I have lovely bils fil brother husband and father. Gives me an immediate good start with them. I tend to make friends with blokes more easily too.

I'm not sure I can blame them for the state of things, obviously it is their fault (to the main) but I can't say it would have been better with women to the fore.

pagwatch · 24/12/2008 11:04

pram

well my DH doesn't shag around ( and hasn't in 20 years together so I think I can be pretty sure on that one), he hates beer, he loathes football and he isn't aggressive. His family absoliutely comes before ebverything else.
I must give him a buzz ( he is at work with 6year old DD) and tell him he is simply misunderstanding his essential self - so should ditch DD and shag someone at work before he gets home, presumeably drunk - and after the football.

what utter bollocks

I think men are people. And people are all different.

NomDePlume · 24/12/2008 11:06

Quite right pag. We'll probably be told that we're in denial

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