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dh has decided he is "bored" with our little family - help please..

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sickofthisrain · 16/09/2008 14:11

I feel like I've got myself in such a mess. Basically DH has always been one of those very "male" types, a high achiever, doesn't really show emotions type. I've always been a secure, fairly independent person and for 10 years it's worked fine. Now we have 2 DS', aged just 3 and 1, and over the last year it's emerged that DS1 has some mild special needs which have absorbed me physically and emotionally for the past few months. DS2 is gorgeous but a demanding baby.

We moved hundreds of miles (now 6 hours from my family) when DS1 was tiny, for DH's dream job, he then found a new dream job which means he is away from home 3 nights per week near where we used to live. It was supposed to be a temporary thing but now seems to be permanent. When he does come home he is constantly emailing or on work phone calls, even at the weekends. He works virtually every evening too, and has taken only 2 weeks of leave all year so far. It's as if he feels himself too important to help with household bits, and he's too exhausted from the work to play properly with the children.

I've now reached the stage where although I can cope alone with the ds', it's bloody hard work and I don't want to have to. I've broached it with DH and he just says his work makes him happy, and at one point, "it would be much easier if I were single," which supposedly was intended as a joke.

He is now making lots of little comments such as "it'll be fine, whatever happens" and if I mention any future event, he'll say, again in a supposed joking way, "if we're still together then" I've never felt insecure in our relationship before, but this, combined with my anxiety over DS1 is making me so miserable. I can't get him to talk about it further, he just says he doesn't know how he feels, or hasn't had chance to think about it. He did say the other night that he felt that we had become stale and "bored" with each other, and he felt our family life was "mundane". The thing is, I can't think that we see each other enough to be bored with one another, and there is no avoiding the demands of 2 such young children..

I really don't know what to do. I think we could make it work, as we do get on so well normally, but only if he is willing to try. I feel too vulnerable to cope without him, as his limited input at this stage is better than none but can't stay in this state of limbo. I feel physically sick, teary and shaky today. Can anyone help?

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ChacunaSonGout · 17/09/2008 11:33

yes i think you do need to be selfish

i would ban sex for a bit whlst looking particularly sexy ...seriously!

castlesintheair · 17/09/2008 13:38

I think it's so easy for people to start muttering "affair" in these situations but I am sure it is far more likely your DH has become totally fixated with work and has forgotten how wonderful you are. You sound like you are going the right way about reminding him of this. You sound very positive and strong today

Mumfun · 17/09/2008 13:52

Hi

I could have written much of what you have said except the koving away from family. And my DH didnt say anything about splitting -he just tried to spend more and more time away from his family.

To cut a long story short we have gone to Relate and it has helped - although it has taken such a long time and completely done my head in as they want to establish the issues first and them move to solutions Dealing with the problems has taken a long time as for example I have issues with my mother and they want to talk about that etc. You also only have one hour per week etc. My DH was willing to go as he did see it as the recommended best course of action in our circumstances.

And I also told him straight - he was risking losing what many men dreamed of - a wife who loved him and 2 gorgeous children

The issue that really emerged for him was that with the arrival of second child there was no him time - everything was around the children etc. I dont actually agree with that but that is what he felt.

We are doing better but I now know that you can never tell what will happen in the future.

A friend of mine said it very early and I think she was right - DH is having a full blown mid life crisis.

Anyway Relate has helped. This website also helped me as I feel it does describe a bit of why DH has behaved as he does -midlifeclub.com/

Also a book recommended on here previously -I love you but Im not in Love with you. That is precisely what DH said to me.

I have to also echo what you said. It has all come as an unbelieveable shock to me - I always felt we were so happy together and had been for 14 years. I feel that I have to change my life and accept that I move onto a new one now. And I have organised a lot more me time and going out time - I stayed in a lot as he is away a lot.

I hope you can get him to see sense and get your marriage to a happier basis again.

HappyWoman · 17/09/2008 13:53

well done you sound so much more possitive today.

Hope it all works out for you now.

sickofthisrain · 17/09/2008 15:05

Thanks everyone, you've all been lovely and I do feel a lot better today. Friends often comment that DH and I seem to have the "perfect" marriage so it just goes to show things aren't always as they seem.

I think partly my pride has stopped me getting help sooner, I wanted to be able to cope with DH being away (and have done for over 2 yrs.,), keep the house immaculate, kids happy and occupied, be the best SAHM possible etc. But perhaps it isn't physically possible to do what I've been trying to do and i'm stressing myself out trying!

I probably have to accept I'm probably just not cut out to be a full time SAHM, much as I love the children to bits.

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HappyWoman · 17/09/2008 15:20

I think too for me the accepting help was hard but now i am not so afraid of asking and it is in no way a weakness. It has also made me far more aware and willing to offer help - and not be seen as pushy.

Well done again to seem to be doing so well and you are right the 'perfect' marriages scare me a bit tbh and it is much more refreshing to share the odd hic-up imo.

solidgoldbrass · 17/09/2008 22:29

FFS don't beat yourself up about not being a 'perfect' SAHM. While some women thrive on this 50s style housewifery and fingerpainting life, the majority find it drives them absolutely fucking mad. If it's making you unhappy, or bored, or cross, or frustrated, then work on getting at least a part time job. SAHMhood is not women's 'destiny' and it is certainly not the only way to prove you have a fanjo, it's just another lifestyle.

ConstanceWearing · 18/09/2008 09:03

Agree, solidgoldbrass.
PMSL about 'not the only way to prove you have a fanjo'.
It does make me cross when they come out with that old line 'you have squeezed me out of the family. You're only interested in the kids'. If they were a bit more interested in the DC's, the wife could catch a break now and again, and might feel a bit more like being a temptress now and again.

'Scuse the ranting. How come you never hear of a man that's become so obsessed with the DC's that he ends up sidelining his wife? Never going to happen. He burys himsself in work, she buries herself in the family. They grow apart. It's both their problem. It's unfair to say that if she were a worse mother, the relationship would be more solid.

WhirlingStirling · 18/09/2008 10:00

People seem to think that men drift away or have affairs because they are not "getting enough" at home but I believe, in my case and many others I have seen on here, that usually they are not "giving enough" at home.

They sometimes see themselves as outside the family. They need to reconnect and get back involved !!

ConstanceWearing · 18/09/2008 11:08

Absolutely AMEN to that Stirling. I couldn't agree more. They alienate themselves.

kt14 · 18/09/2008 20:15

solidgoldbrass, it's yes to all of the above - unhappy, bored, cross and frustrated with SAMHood! Am off back to work next week, (very part time but it's a start) hooray hooray!

The boys are gorgeous and I know I'll miss them but I am heartily sick of spraining my ankle tripping over toys/children, never having a wee/finishing a cup of tea in peace and listening to intermittent shrieking from teething DS2 from 4pm until 7pm every single day.

Told dh of plans last night on the phone and I could hear an audible sigh of relief. Let's hope things are on the up.

PS "Fanjo" - PMSL!!

Mumfun · 25/09/2008 22:05

Whirling - you are sooo right there!

WhirlingStirling · 25/09/2008 22:21

Thanks Mumfun - I have just re-read your last post and you could be me!

We were married 14 yrs when all this trouble started and I believe my h is having a mid-life crisis, though I do think that is a sad excuse for some of his behaviour!

Glad to see you are getting somewhere now though - Good luck

sickofthisrain · 26/09/2008 20:45

hi again, just to update on this a few days on, feeling much better about things now. Start work this week, got the ds' sorted with preschool and childminder, still to find mid week babysitter but working on it and have had a few nights out in the past couple of weeks.

Am not feeling guilty over asking the IL's for help any more - especially since I found out my MIL travels 60 miles to look after another grandchild for a full day a week, and does the washing and ironing for my sil while she's there!! What I ask for is nothing in comparison!!

DH still making the odd daft comment, I think it's almost his idea of warped humour. I (pretend) ninja kicked him last night while we we were cooking dinner (that sounds insane written down but it was just playing about), and he said "careful, I might pack my bags and go", so I said "off you go then" and it stopped him in his tracks. Am treating any such comments with derision.

I do subscribe to the mid life crisis theory though, have seen it happen to many men I've worked with, it seems to start with a two seater car and ends with a younger wife and sometimes more kids. Hope DH doesn't go down that road, he's already muttering about replacing the sports car we had pre ds1..

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HappyWoman · 27/09/2008 09:53

Just cought up with this and wirlingstirling - what you said is so right - they are not giving enough at home. And that may be that they feel they are not 'allowed' to get involved.
Sometimes we do tend to take over and like to 'contol' the home life.

Also men do not know how to always open up and talk about what they are feeling. It takes a lot to do that - look how many woman on here confess to be confused and we are usually better and talking in the first place.

Saying he wants to leave may just be that he does not know what he is feeling and it just comes out wrong.

Anyway it sounds as if you are doing more for you which is great and you sound so much better so keep up the good work.

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