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massage appointments! just want to know the truth

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wild · 18/02/2005 15:56

Dp has been acting a bit edgily lately. we've had a tempestuous kind of relationship and been through some real low patches. I was beginning to hope we had put this behind us but when I described a conversation we'd had someone suggested he was having an affair. I checked his emails (not proud) and found a fairly ambiguous selection from an ex-tenant about massage sessions he'd been having with her (I know she does massage, and he's been having back and neck problems -- but still!) anyway in a mature way I necked red wine with a friend got very upset and confronted him with it in the middle of the night. Upshot he got up and left for work telling me to get out of house (his) within fortnight (when mine becomes free) or he's change locks and call police. He says he is not coming back til then and will not take my calls so far. I know this shows what he tthinks of me but I loved him a lot and still want to make it work only we can talk it over. He insists the massage etc was innocent adn he did not tell me cos I don't like her (I don't she is predatory and I was glad when she left here). He is not by nature a womaniser but I have been preoccupied. We have not had sex for ages, he went off itquite early on in the relationship. I know, I'm a fool. Tell me kindly. I am so so unhappy and I want his love back

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wild · 01/03/2005 08:57

We have agreed to talk over the coming days . He is still in spare room and I've not seen much of him but he no longer seems so angry. All I have to do now is make the most of our discussion. I plan to avoid being emotional and to try to be as calm but assertive as I can. Any tips? I want to stay amicable at the very least.

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Chandra · 01/03/2005 09:12

Oh Wild... whatever you talk about please don't let him blame you for his horrid behaviour

good luck!

wild · 01/03/2005 09:24

Well, yes, that is a pitfall, I know Chandra. I just don't want conflict. When he and ex-p split up he did not see dss for years as a result of the acrimony. He loves ds and he loves me he is just frightened to let go and trust me, but there is obviously something on his mind which I need to know about.

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MummytoSteven · 01/03/2005 09:28

spose there's no chance of getting him to go for counselling? I think possibly your parter might take more notice of an independent person? difficulty is if he is controlling towards you, how on earth are you going to get him to admit that...... I suppose the trick is to make it clear what sort of behaviour is unacceptable but without sounding accusatory - you know the old - when you say things like x, i feel like y. and make it clear that the fact that you feel like y has to be a good enough reason for him to do something about it, that he can't just disregard your feelings

wild · 01/03/2005 09:57

I have suggested counselling before to no avail. I agree it would be worth a try simply to have an objective person to mediate. I will suggest this again as a way forward from all the acrimony that is making us so miserable. I also have to take responsibility for asserting myself, as Chandra says I know he will attempt to blame me for what has happened (has done so already in fact). And while I take your point I'd feel a bit of a moron saying 'when you threaten to throw me out, it makes me feel blue'. Someone else suggested meet away from the house, I think that's a good suggestion. And just try for some honesty I guess.

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Chandra · 01/03/2005 10:28

Wild, I really feel sorry while reading this posts, I really hope that you can get something out of your meeting with him but to be totally honest I'm just seeing myself in you when I was ready to forgive him the worse just to have a bit of his attention. .

A good outcome of such meeting could only be expected if he was prepared to recognise what he has done it's not correct, but blaming already the thing on you can only signal the oposite. I think you are just opening the door to more abuse and that your are happy to welcome it just to avoid loosing contact with him.

wild · 01/03/2005 10:43

There is an element of truth in that I am aware. I do have limits however. He is not all bad and has a sense of decency. I am not averse to separating but if this is what we decide I prefer to do it by agreement rather than being chucked in the street. How did this chapter of your story end, Chandra?

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Chandra · 01/03/2005 13:29

Sorry if I have said something you didn't like. Agree that it's better to have an agreement but please be sure to meet in a public place, even if it's just to help DP to keep his mouth under control.

How did my chapter ended? I think it had a happy ending as a very nice guy I have been working with came "to the rescue" less than 2 weeks afterwards, so I really didn't have a time devoted to mourn the relationship, this new person was so lovely and caring that I just wondered how on Earth I have spent some time of my life with such an abusing person. The ex got a new girlfriend who came across as being a very -very- confident person, she was very popular with men. Two years afterwards we met by accident in a restaurant, one of my friends commented as they left that the woman was having a hard time with my X, that she was even considering suicide . Having said that, the woman before me had tried to comit suicide when he left her. I'm glad I escaped on time. I don't think there was nothing wrong with either of them but he definitively gained some pleasure in being mean to other persons.

That's where my comments came from, I was not able to see that while I was in the relationship and thought it was always my fault probably because he never lost a chance to remind me how inadequate I looked to his eyes.

MummytoSteven · 01/03/2005 13:44

wild - i take your point about not feeling like a moron!

i think tho the key is - he doesn't have to be 100% bad for you to split with him - noone is 100% bad - otherwise how could you have got together with him in the first place - don't feel that just because he has good points and can be nice, that you are not entitled to object to his mistreatment of you, and aren't entitled to respect 100% of the time. you can still love someone without having to live with them/be their partner

wild · 01/03/2005 14:15

I just called him to set up a time and he told me no need to talk it's over. We had agreed last night a friend could move into mine while we sorted things but he's changed his mind again this morning. So gutted. I need to speak with him to get my head around it. at work despeeratly stressed

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MummytoSteven · 01/03/2005 15:14

sorry to hear how it has turned out, wild.

wild · 01/03/2005 15:18

thing is i can't accept it

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ggglimpopo · 01/03/2005 15:23

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wild · 01/03/2005 15:27

I think he is and if he would have the guts to come and and say so I would have the closure I need
This woman is looking for a new flat, it all just seems a bit coincidental
the dates he has his 'massages' coincide with when he tells me he's unhappy
I asked him if there's anything I don't know about and he said a v emphatic NO
but maybe he's talked to her between our conv. last night and lunchtime. I feel so bad imagining this if its not true but I have real suspicions. She is not a good person and loathes me. What about poor ds who loves his dad

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wild · 01/03/2005 15:27

I will be so gutted if she moves into our home and he has not been upfront

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ggglimpopo · 01/03/2005 15:32

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noddyholder · 01/03/2005 15:38

I have read this quickly tbh and just want to ask Do you have your own property but live with your partner?

wild · 01/03/2005 16:05

yes, that is correct NH
gglim in the meantime his son will lose out and if all its for is some sordid fling it seems unfair

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