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When people don't realise they're annoying

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MrsSnape · 20/07/2008 17:58

I feel so sorry for my mum. She fell in love with the film "sound of music" when she was little and has wanted to go to Austria (where it was filmed) for years. So last year my auntie suggested that the two of them go for a year. My mum was so excited, it was a dream come true for her.

Anyway they came back yesterday and I've just gotten off the phone with her. She told me that although she enjoyed it and is glad she went, my auntie was really mean to her, snappy at her every 5 minutes and being quite nasty. One night my mum said she cried herself to sleep. I feel so sad for her BUT I can sort of imagine the situations in which my aunt snapped and I feel awful for it.

My mum just doesn't realise how annoying she can be. She nags constantly "what time are we going there?" "what time does that start?" "where are we going next?" "where did you say we were going next? (repeat 3 times)" "where are we going now?" etc etc and it really is constant. Not only that but she faffs so much with stuff, she got a digital camera for christmas and still doesn't know how to work it. Instead of just sitting down with it one night to work it out, she takes it places she will need it and then stands there saying "oh it won't work?" "how do I do it?" "what does this mean?" "why is it doing that?" every 5 minutes. This caused me to snap quite badly at a recent karate tournament my son was is as she was expecting me to prat around with her camera when my son was fighting.

And then there's her hearing. She's almost deaf in one ear but refuses to wear a hearing aid so she's constantly asking people to repeat themselves. On this holiday she said there were a few occasions where my aunt was laughing and joking with other hotel guests and my mum was laughing along, 5 minutes later my mum asks my aunt "what did she say?" and wonders why my aunt got irritated and snapped "I don't know".

I do really feel for her being so upset but I know what I'm like after 2 hours of shopping with her so I can imagine how irritable my aunt had become (search for a recent thread of mine regarding DSs karate tournament for a big example of how she can frustrate you to the point of snapping).

I once went to lego land with her (during summer hols so was expecting it to be packed) and BEFORE we got there I told her I wanted to head straight for the rides when we got in otherwise the kids wouldn't get on anything. She agreed. Anyway the gates opened at 10, huge crowds rushed towards the rides and my mum said "oh hang on, I need to get a film for my camera" so we went into the gift shop. She faffed around in there for HALF AN HOUR decided which one to get then when we got out I tried to head to the rides and she called me back saying "hang on, how do I put it in the camera?" another 10 minutes spent doing that then finally we were ready to head for the rides..."Hang on, I need to get a drink...lets just go in this shop". By time we got to the rides the park had been open for over an hour and all the queues were too long to get on anything.

Am I a terrible person for understanding why my aunt snapped? Are we all giving my poor mum a hard time for no reason?

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purits · 22/07/2008 08:30

Doh my typing is too slow. What Ozzie an BIWI said.

Kally · 22/07/2008 08:50

Can I ask how old your Mum is?

Kally · 22/07/2008 08:56

And are you an only child or the only one in close proximity?

sarah293 · 22/07/2008 08:58

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SheSellsSeashellsByTheSeashore · 22/07/2008 09:04

mrssnape my mum is exactly the same with her camera too. we all know how to work it now but she struggles to turn it on and she gets very annoyed when my dad upgrades her mobile phone every year as it takes her that long to learn how to work them. her text messages often say "howhdyryuf dhgajbgdjmn the hcdsuy?"

we solve the camera thing by teaching whoever she is with how to use it! it really is much easier than trying to get my mum to work it!!

Drusilla · 22/07/2008 09:04

Next time you go out with her can you get in first and keep asking her what you're doing next? It might make her a) realize how irritating it is or b) take some responsibility for herself and plan things herself instead of relying on other people.

beanieb · 22/07/2008 09:17

I am really surprised the hearing issue is not being discussed moew. People who can't hear well often pretend they can and laugh along at things they don't hear because they are too embarrassed to admit they can't hear.

Sounds to me lilke the constant questions and having to repeat the answers is directly to do with her hearing. Please talk to her about getting a hearing aid.

beanieb · 22/07/2008 09:18

more

mrsruffallo · 22/07/2008 09:20

They're sisters so should be tolerant of each others foibles

Wolfgirl · 22/07/2008 09:27

MrsSnape - you write so beautifully and imparted the scenes really well. Which actually made me laugh and sympathise at the same time.

I have a difficult mother too.... although mine is much more militarian, thin lipped, bitter and moany. She too will not accept when people point out her annoying ways, that they could possibly be right. Instead the shield goes up and she deflects the admonishments.

but we love em, dont we? I do hope your mum will be OK, as underneath it all, she actually sounds lovely. At least she went to lego land with you, and.... all in all, it sounds like she does try, but just cant get her little act together. And bless you for your patience! You sound great too

MrsSnape · 22/07/2008 14:11

Wolfgirl, that's so nice, thank you

My mum really has a problem taking responsibility for herself. Like last summer holidays for instance SHE suggested that I take the kids down to her house and we would go for a walk to the park (me, my mum, my kids and my sister who was 12 at the time).

So I got there, lovely weather, kids all excited...the first thing my mum says is "do you still want to go to park?" and he facial expression was saying "please for gods sake say no..." so I rolled my eyes a bit and said "yes, the kids are looking foward to it" so she changed her expression and said "oh yes! so am I!" . 5 minutes later "did you REALLY want to go to park? its ok if you don't want to you know..." so I said "yes, I do". The next hour went like this:

mum: "so you still want to go to park?"
me: "yes"
mum: you sure? its ok if you don't..."
me: "I do"
mum "if you're not bothered about park I won't mind..."
me: "I want to go"
mum "Its hot today, we're going to be boiling around park, do you really fancy trudging around in the heat?"
me "yes"
mum "can't be bothered to go to park, can you?"
me "yes"
mum "Oh, I could really do with not trudging right up there today, couldn't you?"
me (in my head) "FOR GODS SAKE!!! FINE WE WON'T GO!!" (out loud) "if you don't want to go, we won't"
mum "oh I do, I'm thinking of you..."
me (irritable) "well I'm not bothered anymore to be honest"
mum "oh we won't bother then...KIDS...We're not going to park now, MrsSnape is too tired and doesn't want to go"

So back to the camera issue...I have tried to show her but she doesn't want to learn. No matter how many times you show her she won't take any notice. I honestly used to think she pretended she couldn't do these things on purpose for attention but since she's now lost all her photos I don't think she'd do that on purpose. It's just so frustrating, the mobile phone she's never even tried to use. Everytime we go out she says "oh, I'd use my mobile phone but it's at home, it needs charging..." Its needed charging since christmas day when she opened it.

Last year we were due to take the kids swimming. We got all ready, kids were excited, I got to their house and she says "Do you REALLY want to go swimming or can you not be bothered?" now anticipating a repeat of the hugely irritating conversation above I just said "yes, we definately want to go, if you don't, just say now so we can get going and we'll come back here for a cuppa afterwards". So she looked all shocked and said "what, you're still going even when we don't want to??" so its obvious she expects her own way all the time.

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MrsSnape · 22/07/2008 14:14

Oh and another example which makes me furious but ammused at the same time...a conversation between her and her husband:

mum - "we need some milk"
husband - "oh right"
mum - "I'll have to go across to the shop and get some"
husband - "ok"
mum "I'LL have to go...."
husband - "ok..."
mum - "Me I mean..I'LL have to get changed and go to shop..."
husband "yeah ok"
mum - "OH FOR GODS SAKE! I'LL GO THEN SHALL I? I'LL GO AND GET CHANGED AND GO TO SHOP, DON'T OFFER TO HELP ME WILL YOU??"
husband - "I'll go"
mum - "well, it would be easier for you to go..."

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Backgammon · 22/07/2008 14:16

Poor you MrsSnape, she sounds like my mother!

My Mum asked us what we wanted for xmas and I showed her a set of house phones we wanted. She (very kindly) bought them for us and decided to buy a set for herself.

She has done nothing but complain about thed damn phones since she got them. Every telephone call with her goes like this:

Mum: Can, you hear me? I still can't work out these damn phones.
Me: What's the problem?
Mum: I can't get it to store any numbers in it.
Me: It's easy, just read the manual.
Mum: But the manual is 30 pages long!!!!
Me: But you don't need to read the whole thing, it has an index - just go to the page about programming in numbers.
Mum: But the manual is 30 pages long!!!

Ad infinitum, every time we speak. It's making me cross just thinking about it.

You have my sympathies

CarGirl · 22/07/2008 14:19

MrsSnape I admire you for not having clocked your Mother around the head.

I can't stand it when people hint, generally she would drive me insane and it would end up in a huge row if I were you.

MrsSnape · 22/07/2008 14:20

PMSL that sounds so much like my mum! it's nice to know there are others out there...

She always repeats stuff like that, one of her favourites is the slippery floor in the shopping centre:

mum - "whoops! I nearly slipped then!"
me - "oh..."
mum - "do you not think its slippery?"
me - "yeah a bit"
mum - "whoops!"
mum - "whoooo..."
mum - "whoop! nearly..."
mum - "whoo I was nearly over then!"
mum - "woo...I nearly slipped then, isn't it slippery in here?"
me - "yeah a bit"
mum - "whooooops....nearly..."

argh! ok so its slipperly! but not THAT slippery where you're practically bloody skating on it! deep breaths

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partaria · 22/07/2008 14:21

Mine is SO like this and always has been - so it's n ot senility I'm pretty sure. Though what emotional reward she reaps for being so deliberately helpless and stubbornly closed minded about trying to do things for herself god alone knows

Backgammon · 22/07/2008 14:26

PMSL at the slippery floor!

My Mum did a similar thing recently in the shopping centre. Her and my Auntie had been to visit and had been round the shops the day before. So I'm talking away to her about something quite serious:

Me: So they think she might not be able to have another baby.
Mum: That's the door Auntie J and I came in yesterday.
Me: Right. But they're not too sure anyway, they'll have to do some tests.
Mum: I think it was that door - we parked over on the other side by the library.
Me: Uhuh. But hopefully it will work out ok for them, I really hope so.
Mum: This is where I met Auntie J after she'd been in John Lewis.
Me: Time will tell anyway, everyone is keeping their fingers crossed.
Mum: Oh no, it was this door that I met Auntie J by.
Me: Oh fgs - I don't care what door you met Auntie J by yesterday I'm trying to talk to you about something important!!!

I feel better now. Sorry for the semi thread hijack.

jamescagney · 22/07/2008 14:33

please MrsSnape more stories! shut up weak bladder. pmsl

MrsSnape · 22/07/2008 14:34

backgammon! my mum did something VERY similar!

We were sitting in Subway:

me: "I'm really not sure if I'm on the right university course..."
mum: "what? college? what is it again?"
me: "University, the qualification is good...it counts towards..."
mum: "oops, nearly dropped a meatball then!"
me: "counts towards a degree"
mum: "do you think these meatballs are as nice as last time?"
me: "yeah like I said, it counts towards a degree..."
mum: (sits there staring out of the window) - a few minutes later "what is it again? college?"
me: "the UNIVERSITY COURSE counts towards a degree!"
mum "alright! I was just looking at that woman out there... am I as big as her?"

........... and breath

I feel so much better knowing that there are other mums driving their daughters nuts in this way!!

she's 54 btw.

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partaria · 22/07/2008 14:35

oh dear there's a lot of this about; let's hope we take note and positively try not to be like our mothers ! Funny to observe maybe, but SO irritating to deal with.

MrsSnape · 22/07/2008 14:36

pmsl jamescagney, I suppose it is funny reading it back

I have a good one for later but I better go or I'll be late picking the kids up lol

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Backgammon · 22/07/2008 14:38

Mine is 58 MrsS, they sound so similar!

Of course, she's always telling me that I'm grumpy and that she can't say anything without me jumping down her throat. My Dad and brother just tune her out completely, it's only me who gets so wound up. So she thinks it is entirely my problem, nothing to do with her at all!

MrsSnape · 22/07/2008 14:41

OMG My mum's favourite saying is:

"I can't say anything without people jumping down my throat!"

We must be long lost siblings! pmsl

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Backgammon · 22/07/2008 14:46

They are one and the same!!!!

quinne · 22/07/2008 21:35

I know this sounds crazy but do you think she's jealous of the attention you give your children?!

One of my children went through a phase that every time I tried to do something with the other child, he would do anything to distract me. It sounds like the same thing, except with a 50 year age gap!

I can also think of two men I know both losing their hearing, who would not get it sorted because they enjoyed the way they could take control of a conversation by making people repeat things. ditto learning new technology - what is the point when you get sooo much more attention when everyone has to stop to explain it to you again.

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