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How to deal with DP who sulks?

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PatienceRequired · 13/07/2008 11:48

Just that really....whenever we have a disagreement, he sulks. It can be for days....i used the follow him around like a puppy dog trying to resolve it as i have never dealt with a sulker before. I feel that this made his sulk more worthwhile for him.

I then reduced my puppy dog behaviour to ignoring the sulk and talking normally to him, only to get basic answers and for the sulk to gradually wear away over the course of a few days.

I have grown in confidence in this relationship and where before i would have questioned if i was in the wrong this time i know i am right, and even if i wasn't i dont think that this method ever resolves the problem. it is after all the same dispute we have time and time again.

I said this to him, this morning and he is refusing to budge, either on the not sulking or on the issue that caused us to row in the first place. The childish immature part of me wants to ignore him too, even down to not cooking any dinner etc, for him but i cant stand that kind of behaviour and couldn't do it. What would you do next?

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BlaDeBla · 18/07/2008 16:54

You can go to Relate on your own. It could provide you with a bit of insight, and whether you decide to stay or go, you won't end up in the same situation again. It sounds as though you actually DO have 4 children under 5. You will always have the toddler though, and sadly if you stay with him and his behaviour continues, the boys will learn the same.

I think relationships are hard work, and although they can be fantastic, there are ways of making the crap times a bit less crap

PatienceRequired · 19/07/2008 11:56

Day 8....

I thought i saw a slight improvement yesterday.
I was going out last night(for dinner with the girlies) and decided that instead of cooking dinner for him and the kids i would get a takeaway from the chippy instead. This is a very rare thing in our house. So when he got in from work i simply said, Dinner is from the chippy what do you want? And he answered in a pleasant tone of voice, "Its ok i'll get it"
So he went and got it.
Then he was feeding the baby her bottle as i was leaving so i went to give her a kiss and thought sod it and went to kiss him on the top of his head and he lifted his face up for it!

Didnt see him then till i got up this morning but he is giving me short answers when i ask a direct question and so its seems no progress made at all. He is ignoring the older two children(both mine, not his) when they talk to him. Normally he keeps them quiet when i am having a lie in but today let them run around loudly, up and down the stairs etc. I suppose this is his way of saying "see what happens when i dont discipline the kids..." But i was lying in bed listening to them and they sounded like they were having so much fun. It was lovely as they are usually so bound up in rules and "be quiet", "stop that" etc. I have noticed that there have been a lot less tears and tantrums this week, and i am not as irritated by them as normal. Probably because i am not worrying about them annoying him. Got a bit of a f*ck it attitude. Let them be children.

The thing is... i agree with him that children need discipline, boundaries and to know who is boss, but i think that this has to be delivered alongside love, fun and instilling a sense of self worth. We have the same discipline "goals" iyswim, but disagree on the way it is delivered. I've watched enough supernanny type programmes to know what i want to happen and how, but he feels that the problem with the youth of today is that discipline is now too slack and his victorian method is best. He and his dad have a saying, "treat them like dogs and they will respect you for life" He also says "my two have turned out alright" But that is a matter of opinion and while they are not knife yielding drug dealers, i know they have issues with the way they were treated as kids. But dosent everyone? But they resent him for it.

So you are probably all screaming "Wtf are you doing with him?"
Well this is only one part of our relationship, and i feel the rest is really good. As bladebla says relationships are hard work, i think they need to be worked at all the time, i also think all relationships have at least one issue and this is ours. The problem is, it is a big one and the consequences of just letting it be wont just affect me, or him, in the way maybe another issue would. The sacrifices arent mine to make.

I'm sorry this is so long and waffly, i seem to be using it as a way of clarifing my thoughts, in the way relate would. i know i could go on my own but really feel confident with my stance, but just wish the silly b**ger would grow up and we could discuss it,and get on with life. ie this behaviour is a problem this is the way we will deal with it.

Think i'm boring people now but thamks for reading if you get this this far.

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PatienceRequired · 19/07/2008 11:56

Day 8....

I thought i saw a slight improvement yesterday.
I was going out last night(for dinner with the girlies) and decided that instead of cooking dinner for him and the kids i would get a takeaway from the chippy instead. This is a very rare thing in our house. So when he got in from work i simply said, Dinner is from the chippy what do you want? And he answered in a pleasant tone of voice, "Its ok i'll get it"
So he went and got it.
Then he was feeding the baby her bottle as i was leaving so i went to give her a kiss and thought sod it and went to kiss him on the top of his head and he lifted his face up for it!

Didnt see him then till i got up this morning but he is giving me short answers when i ask a direct question and so its seems no progress made at all. He is ignoring the older two children(both mine, not his) when they talk to him. Normally he keeps them quiet when i am having a lie in but today let them run around loudly, up and down the stairs etc. I suppose this is his way of saying "see what happens when i dont discipline the kids..." But i was lying in bed listening to them and they sounded like they were having so much fun. It was lovely as they are usually so bound up in rules and "be quiet", "stop that" etc. I have noticed that there have been a lot less tears and tantrums this week, and i am not as irritated by them as normal. Probably because i am not worrying about them annoying him. Got a bit of a f*ck it attitude. Let them be children.

The thing is... i agree with him that children need discipline, boundaries and to know who is boss, but i think that this has to be delivered alongside love, fun and instilling a sense of self worth. We have the same discipline "goals" iyswim, but disagree on the way it is delivered. I've watched enough supernanny type programmes to know what i want to happen and how, but he feels that the problem with the youth of today is that discipline is now too slack and his victorian method is best. He and his dad have a saying, "treat them like dogs and they will respect you for life" He also says "my two have turned out alright" But that is a matter of opinion and while they are not knife yielding drug dealers, i know they have issues with the way they were treated as kids. But dosent everyone? But they resent him for it.

So you are probably all screaming "Wtf are you doing with him?"
Well this is only one part of our relationship, and i feel the rest is really good. As bladebla says relationships are hard work, i think they need to be worked at all the time, i also think all relationships have at least one issue and this is ours. The problem is, it is a big one and the consequences of just letting it be wont just affect me, or him, in the way maybe another issue would. The sacrifices arent mine to make.

I'm sorry this is so long and waffly, i seem to be using it as a way of clarifing my thoughts, in the way relate would. i know i could go on my own but really feel confident with my stance, but just wish the silly b**ger would grow up and we could discuss it,and get on with life. ie this behaviour is a problem this is the way we will deal with it.

Think i'm boring people now but thamks for reading if you get this this far.

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PatienceRequired · 19/07/2008 11:58

OOOPs dont know why double post occured???

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dittany · 19/07/2008 12:27

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Heated · 19/07/2008 12:52

Tell him with a great deal of disbelieving amusement to have a tantrum on the floor - it'll be over quicker.

Roskva · 19/07/2008 18:47

Mine has just started a sulk. Wonder how long this one is going to last. Apparently I have no ambition and am ruining his life by limiting his after I asked the questions that he doesn't want to answer about his latest fantastic business opportunity idiot scheme.

I understand exactly what you mean that there are other areas of your life which is good together, Patience, as I feel the same way about my relationship.

PatienceRequired · 19/07/2008 21:49

Oh dear Roskva, not you too! I hope it dosen't last as long as mine! But really to question him...how insensitive of you How do you feel when you are acting "normal" during one of his sulks?
I feel like i am walking on eggshells, and sway between wanting to scream at him and just pleading with him to forget it ever happened. I feel really lonely and almost single parent again. He is supposed to be my partner but there is no companionship during this whatsoever. Probably worse than that as we are just avoiding each other as much as possible and this house dosent really have enough rooms for that to be practical.

I am glad you can see my point about the rest of our relationship as i think this sulk taken out of context of our relationship sounds dreadful. I am surprised that mumsnetters haven't been screaming at me to leave him tbh!

Love the one liner Heated, its stored in the memory for when i tell him what i think of all this.

And dittany you are on my wavelength re men from mars. I thought i was just being pigheaded. (well i have my moments too!)
Re why is he punishing me, quite simply because i dont agree with him. I wouldnt ask him as the word punish would let him know how awful its making me feel. I know this is all about a power struggle, and sadly he holds the power because as soon as he comes out of it, i will want to get on with life. I much prefer to sort the problem then get the next round in/put the kettle on! Can't quite decide if i am weak or just mature? But in the meantime i am not doing the puppy dog thing! His daughter reassured me about it all again today, thank God i can talk to her. But i still hate it!!!!!

Hes gone to this wedding Roskva if you fancy a virtual sulking widows glass of wine/cuppa? Hugs hun!

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PatienceRequired · 19/07/2008 22:33

And now he has just texted me to say his cousin is coming for dinner tomorrow! What a lovely atmosphere that will be????

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whizz · 19/07/2008 23:09

Another sulker here! day 7 with us. Nothing much to add except agree with ladyjane1 that my love & passion for sulker dips a little more after each episode.
Very interesting about history of your dm & grandfather (jesus...),very similar to my family but hadn't realised the connection.

dittany · 19/07/2008 23:35

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PatienceRequired · 19/07/2008 23:57

Oh whizz you too? What did you do "wrong" then?

Dittany, i can fully understand why you ask that, as you may gather from my earlier post at 21.49, but really there is so much good in this relationship. I have been married before and i know that i want to keep this one.

re my dc's...well today my dd (5yrs) has been asking, and i can only be as honest as a 5 yr old can understand. ie Mummy and X dont agree on something so we are thinking about how to make it better. And X isn't talking because he is thinking about it so much. I have implied that its not the best way but x is learning how to do it better, iyswim.

It is about control freakery and we are both prone to it, (is anyone not??) but i refuse to be controlled about this hence my stance. Many things i will compromise on but not this. I feel if this is resolved then my dc's will benefit. If not resolved then i probably will have to consider leaving, or it will affect them in a way i am not prepared to allow. But i really hope it dosent get that far....fingers crossed.

thanks for your replies, it is lovely to know someone is reading and in a way "cares".

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PatienceRequired · 19/07/2008 23:58

I've just read SleepingWithTheEnemy 's thread and feel so petty. My god what some people go through, and heres me moaning

Will have a nose at Rebuttal from Uranus, thanks dittany.

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KerryMum · 20/07/2008 00:01

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PatienceRequired · 20/07/2008 07:47

lOl Kerry mum, i am so cross with him, i'd worry i might bite it off! And for my own sake i really dont want do that!

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Roskva · 20/07/2008 09:49

morning, I took myself off to bed with my book last night, Patience. Apparently I'm supposed to be grateful that his latest great idea is running a riding school (wtf???) because I like horses. He hates horses. And never mind I don't have any experience, qualifications, and am 6 months pg. It would be funny if he weren't being such a toddler.

He's now sulking because he's not getting his own way. And like you, I'm walking on eggshells, whatever I say is wrong, and I feel vaguely sick.

I have actually tried the blow job approach before now, kerrymum , but atm I'm too peed off with him to want to do anything nice for him.

Patience, I hope you told him that you've other things planned and you aren't doing dinner for his cousin.

whizz · 20/07/2008 13:28

my 'wrong' doing was disciplining our ds. no matter that i do 99.9% of the childcare, he seemed to know 'best'. Today he seems to want to move on but I'm still too angry. Sulk started during a visit from his family. Cook dinner for his cousin? I don't know how he has the nerve to ask!

PatienceRequired · 21/07/2008 13:03

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jesuswhatnext · 21/07/2008 15:29

PR - well done you!!!!!. don't let things slide back though!!!!

you may love dp, but he is the adult, he MUST treat your dd with kindness and caring even if he feels he cannot love her.

jesuswhatnext · 21/07/2008 15:30

ps - i think that men, mars venus book is a load of bloody tripe!

whizz · 21/07/2008 18:15

Great news PR!
To clarify..... i'm def the 'sulk widow', would be more than happy to move on if dp would discuss what happened instead of just deciding all was fine again & acting as if had been a figment of my imagination.
That said, things also improving here today so hopefully 'talks' not far off.
Hope things improving for you too Roskva.

Roskva · 21/07/2008 20:33

That's brilliant, Patience.

My dh has mostly thawed. He's just venting his spleen moaning about dd leaving things all over the floor. She's 2, for heaven's sake. And if you ask her nicely, she does pick things up, these days. I think dh hungers for a pristine, tidy bachelor pad - too late for that now [evil grin emoticon]

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